July 1, 2005 · Posted in: In the News
Manila Archbishop Rosales says, “Forgiveness does not eliminate the need for justice”
IN THE strongest statement yet to come from the Roman Catholic Church hierarchy, Manila Archbishop Gaudencio Rosales lays down the basic principles by which, he says, the Filipino people must proceed to solve the current political crisis. The Archbishop begins by saying, "the offended cannot simply be consoled by expressions of regret."
Speaking four days after President Arroyo’s apology, the church leader says forgiveness "should not block the search for truth." He ends with a reminder for people to remain calm, and not to give in to despair.
The Unity We Need
"The power of God brought it about that the people were of one mind to carry out the command … in accordance with the word of the Lord." (2 Chronicles 30:12)
Once again, we, Filipinos, find ourselves going through very hard times. Many are poor, hungry, searching for a better life for themselves and their families. If only we would just focus our minds and hearts, and work together to find solutions to the poverty that has not ceased to plague us, we might find ourselves moving forward as a nation. Instead, our national attention and energies are taken up by division and altercations. Serious charges have been made against our leaders and officials. Despite expressions of regret, many remain angry, confused, hurt. In this situation, as your shepherd and pastor, I wish to call to mind fundamental principles that should govern our search for solutions to our present crisis.
First, let us remember that the offended cannot simply be consoled by expressions of regret. Forgiveness does not eliminate the need for justice, nor should it block the search for truth. Genuine forgiveness demands more than an apology, and those who seek forgiveness should be ready to be called to accountability.
Second, the pursuit of truth regarding the grave charges against leaders and officials should be conducted within the provisions of our Constitution and should respect the laws of the land. Any proposition that disregards our constitutional and legal systems weakens our institutions and paves the way for a graver instability that can cause more profound suffering to our people.
Third, any proposed solution to our present situation that relies on or leads to violence is unacceptable. Violence harms the innocent and inflicts wounds so deep that will take generations to heal.
Fourth, we ask our leaders to give our people hope, by giving immediate attention to authentic reform. Political systems that are prone to corruption must be swiftly and decisively reformed, and institutions built that can effectively respond to the aspirations of our people for a better life.
Finally, in these confusing times when people are easily swayed by emotions and led astray by quick-fix solutions, may cooler heads prevail. Let true lovers of the Filipino people come together to discern carefully before God, what is truly for the immediate and long-run good of our country. Let us not fall easy prey to those self-seeking politicians from all the different political parties, who have held the country’s future hostage to their own ambitions, and have brought us to where we sadly find ourselves today.
Let us not also give in to despair, seeing only what is wrong in our country, when there is, in truth, so much that is good done daily by Filipinos from all walks of life to build up the nation. Our recurring problems of political instability may cause us to lose hope, but if we humbly accept that we are all sinners in need of conversion, it will be easier for us to unite.
I ask then that, in these times of uncertainty, we join in fervent prayer and prayerful reflection, that the Lord show us the way forward, as He has done in the past, and that He may give us yet another chance to be one. Let us place our trust in His continued love and care for our people, especially those who are poor. May our Blessed Mother find joy in the Filipino people, for she loves to see us listen to her Son.
Gaudencio B. Rosales, D.D., Archbishop of Manila (signed)
and the Bishops of the Metropolitan Province of Manila
1 July 2005
41 Responses to Manila Archbishop Rosales says, “Forgiveness does not eliminate the need for justice”
ric1
July 1st, 2005 at 7:09 pm
“Resignation is constitutional.” — Cory Aquino, Nov 2000
1. Listen to the “Hello Garci” tapes or read the transcripts.
2. Ask yourself whether you care to have GMA as president
3. Join your voice to the calls for GMA’s resignation
4. Remember: resignation is constitutional
jay cynikho
July 1st, 2005 at 7:41 pm
is that a pastoral letter of the Archbishop of Manila? Is there a need to include the Bishops of the Metropolitan Province of Manila in the letter? Can’t the Archbishop alone by himself be authoritative or forceful enough?
i think half of the message is addressed to G.Arroyo. the other half just describes the failure of past administration and the church to do good by its people. the archbishop is asking the people to accept the status quo, to be patient and suffer a little more.
a few more decades of this type of messages and some bishops might be shot. the catholic church should learn the lessons of history in the catholic dominated countries in south america.
rich___ong
July 1st, 2005 at 7:45 pm
Bishop Rosales,
Please listen to the tapes. Let those people going to the church listen to it during the mass. There are lessons to be learned here. You can use this as your homily on what is morally right. The contents are of very vital issure here.
rich___ong
July 1st, 2005 at 8:48 pm
Did they respect the constitution when they kidnapped people who couldn’t accept their plan to cheat in the election?????????? Is this morally acceptable now Bishop Rosales??????????? I hope you start to wake up and LISTEN. POPE JOHN PAUL II LISTENED thats why people loved him.
noelet
July 1st, 2005 at 9:17 pm
In fairness to the Archbishop they need to be partial.
Its sort of like a forced speech that was asked by the situation and they need an official communicae. What is lacking is the direct request to the personalities involved in this scandal. We all know who they were: Mrs. Arroyo, Garcilliano, Barbers, and different Comelec officials and staff, the Military and PNP.
What I hate about the letter of Archbishop Rosales is that it ONLY offers a BLANKET appeal fro the situation. Just like a narrator in a play who does not want to be involved but by virtue of his position must need to address the public.
My apeal then to Archbishop Gaudencio Rosales, like what others want, is for you to listen and study the tapes. Adn then directly confront Mrs. Gloria Arroyo for her to address the issues presented in the tape.
That is moving forward. Not a BLANKET appeal.
Louie Montemar
July 1st, 2005 at 9:37 pm
How I wish we could have access to God like this Lady in Malacañang who once claimed that God suggested for her to make a sacrifice and run for the Presidency. By the way, shouldn’t the Archbishop comment on this instead–GMA’s supposedly being the chosen one? Hay… How can a Church truly espouse democracy if it is selective in its commentaries?
Democracy is a fragile thing.
History suggests that especially in a country whose experience with western democratic institutions is but half a century old, things like the so-called Gloriagate scandal could come to pass.
Since 1986, we have been consolidating and deepening democracy in this nation. We rewrote the Constitution. Passed a Local Government Code. Conducted numerous elections. Even unseated a hugely popular President. Still, there are treacherous waters that we must tread.
To some, it would seem that democracy is showing itself to be a failed attempt in this country.
But we cannot lose hope. We cannot let an individual’s “lapse in judgment” be the start of our collective lapse in judgment. The ball is now with all of us, as it were.
The course of action that we must take should, in the final analysis, only strengthen democracy and not endanger it.
Democracy has to be promoted with the interest of the Filipino people foremost in our minds.
Our democratic values are once again being put to a test. Democracy and any other governmental arrangement ultimately rests on legitimacy. And it is precisely the legitimacy of the current national leadership which is now in question.
The Lady in Malacañang and the Church must be reminded: The people will protect their interest if necessary—the two Edsa uprisings are proof of this. Malacañang should not further test the people’s resolve to change things radically if need be.
Let the people’s will be done.
Resign.
Democracy is but a fragile flower.
Rizalist
July 1st, 2005 at 11:24 pm
One can usually tell where a particular media outlet stands on a complex issue by the spin they give to statements of influential personalities. In the case of Archbishop Rosales’ statement, the Philippine Daily Inquirer, chose to put in its Breaking News section that:
floyd
July 2nd, 2005 at 12:03 am
When i was asked if i believe in Karma i answered “No i dont believe in any of that B.S. because if it were true then this country is well off right now.”
When asked if i believe in divine justice i answered “No because if it is proven to be divine then at least there should be a divine hand behind all these where all shall see and those who sinned against another shall be metted with the right punishment accordingly as could be assessed directly by the victim. Not in the next life but now.”
When asked if there is a God i answered ” Is that a trick question? look around you, look at our country we have been full of God ever since and we have called him a lot of times yet what do we get in return? We have left in his hands everything we asked and hope for leaving it all to prayer but not doing anything about it. we only call upon him but we never practice his sense of justice nor charity. we preach about Jesus but we never try to imitate his actions so whats the use of the church? and why do they accept criminals in their ranks? i dont see God anymore in any of these i only see people using God for their own ends.”
when asked if this letter would do any good for the Filipino people i answered; “the letter is good if only to be used as a homily in a mass a prayer perhaps because there exists no process of how we are to know what the Lord or the divine mother thinks about the situation, only a never ending question of when and how we would know that we should do the right things that is of course better left to the people of God or church leaders. sadly this letter never empowers the people. it gives them a sense of illusionary hope in the form of admonition.”
masha
July 2nd, 2005 at 12:18 am
one should really be careful in reading newspapers. the inquirer of late has been editing the news. they reported the phenomenon of the 3 hour tape too late in the game. it had been posted at least 2 weeks already in this site before they quoted it in their news section. the opinion section though gave glimpses of the tapes. of course you wont get anything about it from the likes of doronila (an ambassador to brussels hopeful and cunanan, yung naki-angkas sa chartered flight to rome). i know of people asking the inquirer why they have yet to report on the 3 hour tapes when it was already going around the internet. for weeks the tapes that were in their news section were just the paguia and bunye’s conjured version.
alagad
July 2nd, 2005 at 12:31 am
Time to Move On.
ako po ay labis na nababahala sa mga pangyayaring nagaganap sa ating inang bayan. sa kapatawaran po lamang natin makakamtan ang hustiyang hinihingi ng iilan.
tunay nga po ang kasabihan na “maunang bumato ang taong walang kasalanan.” wala pong mangyayari kung puro galit at poot lamang ang ating isasapuso. buksan po natin ang ating isipan at isa-alang-alang ang kapakanan ng ating naghihirap na mga kababayan. ang kagalang-galang na pangulo ay dapat po nating tulungan. lubayan na po natin ang paninira at panglalait sa pagkatao ng ating kagalang-galang na pangulo, pati na po ang kanyang pamilya. malaki na po ang pasakit na kanyang ibinigay para sa kanyang mga kababayan. tulungan na lamang po natin siya na makamit ang progreso at maayos na pamumuhay para sa lahat.
Lubos na gumagalang at umaasa sa inyong pang-unawa,
Alagad
zorros
July 2nd, 2005 at 12:34 am
Masuerte talaga si GMA, hanggang ngayon eh suportado pa ng malalaking media. So how can we really fight for the “Thruth”. GMA controls all the resources namely, DOJ, NBI, MAKATI group, ISAFP, Government funds, recently the BIR,. etc..
The only structure that they can’t control is the Internet arena.
zorros
July 2nd, 2005 at 12:48 am
Newspaper should either classify their work as a mere Public Relation piece or pure journalistic work. If inquirer is indeed keep on reporting a one sided news then they are a one hell of PR agency for GMA – at the price of the “Thruth”.
FaFa IggY
July 2nd, 2005 at 2:19 am
question…. bakit nakikialam ang church sa politika? during the time of Jesus Christ, di Siya nakiaalam sa pamumuno ni Julius Ceasar. ang Kanyang mission ay maniwala sa Kanya ang mga tao para maligtas sa kasamaan.
sa misa, ang sermon ng pare ay di na tungkol sa scriptures kundi sa politika. instead of explaining the WORD of Jesus Christ… politika ang binabatikos nila. di dapat sila nakikialam sa takbo ng politika. marami sa ating pilipinong katoliko ay madaling maniwala sa mga sinasabi ng mga pari dahil mataas ang kanilang respeto. instead of discussing what is happening to the government… dapat patibayin nila ang pananampalataya kay Jesus. tuwing linggo lang nakakarinig ang mga tao ng salita ng Diyos… dapat naman siguro wag na nilang isama ang mga nangyayari sa government.
i have nothing against the church at di ko naman nilalahat ng simbahan na puro politika ang sermon. siguro majority ng simbahan ay politka ang kanilang sermon.
prayers ang malakas na armas sa kasamaan… ito ang ating magagawa para magkaroon ng katahimikan at kaunlaran ang ating bansa.
alagad
July 2nd, 2005 at 2:30 am
fafa Iggy, tama po kayo, na dapat ipagdasal ang ating kalagayan ngayon. Sa tulong ng dasal ay matitigil na ang maruming pamumulitika na kinakaharap ng pamahalaan ng ating kagalang-galang na pangulo. Sa akin din pong palagay ay hindi naman po namumulitika ang buong kaparian. Ang CBCP po ay nagpahayag lamang ng kanilang pananaw tungkol sa nagaganap na maaari po nating sabihing may kaugnayan sa politika ngunit sa kabuuan po ay para sa kapakinabangan ng miyembro ng simbahang romana katolika. Hindi po namumulitika ang CBCP, nagbibigay lamang po sila ng liwanag kung sa kanila pong paningin ay naliligalig ang kabuuan ng simbahang katolika. Katulad din po ito noong naganap sa panahon ni Marcos, hindi po nila hiningi na patalsikin si Marcos bagkus ay nagbigay lamang po sila ng payo sa mga miyembro nito.
Salamat po.
Alagad
FaFa IggY
July 2nd, 2005 at 2:51 am
Alagad
di ko naman sinabi na namumulitika ang mga kaparian. ang kanilang ginagawang pamamahayag ng kanilang panananaw ay nagbibigay kaguluhan sa mga nakikinig sa kanila. kapag ang isang tao ay nagbigay ng kanyang pananaw sa isang tao… ito ay kanyang hinuhusgahan. kung ikaw ay may gustong sabihin sa isang pagkakamali ng isang tao… sabihin mo ito sa kanya ng diretso at di sa ibang tao.
di ba nararapat na ang salita ng Diyos ang kanilang ipaliwanag sa tao?… ang relasyon ng bawat isa sa Panginoon? nagpunta ang ang mga tao sa simbahan para humungi ng lakas, tawad, at pasasalamat sa Panginoon.
ang nangyari kay Marcos ay ibang usapin… malaki ang nagawa ng simbahan sa pagpapaalis sa kanya. pero wag mong kakalimutan na hindi tao ang may kagagawan ng peaceful protest na iyon kundi ang ating pagdarasal at pananampalataya sa Panginoon. malakas ang ating paniniwala sa Panginoon nung kapanahunan nun na walang mangyayari sa atin. tayo ay di pinabayaan ni Jesus at tayo ay nilayo sa kapahamakan.
kaya kapatid, wag mong mamasamain ang aking mga sinasabi. relasyon sa Kanya ang ating dapat patibayin at di paniniwala sa mga nangyayari sa kamunduhan.
rich___ong
July 2nd, 2005 at 4:31 am
Well the reason THE Philippine Daily Inquirer gives bias reporting is simple. They almost closed the paper when advertisers boycotted them during Erap’s time. They surely learned from it. That’s one reason they don’t have sympathy for the opposition. So they will make sure their articles would suit GMA well. It has lost its fearless journalism. Sorry Inquirer you lost it.
sef
July 2nd, 2005 at 8:13 am
Bishop Rosales got it right. He’s got five points to make, and for sure the ones with the most impact (as must have been intended) are the first and the last points:
1. Forgiveness is OK but people should also look at accountability (obviously Arroyo’s).
2. We should not be swayed by “self-seeking” politicians from both parties (But since it is the opposition that is trying to sway the people to do something, this point obviously refers to them).
The Bishop is not letting PGMA off the hook. In fact, accountability is a tough word directed to a sitting president. Yet, he is at the same time strongly warning us not to jump into the fire, too. The present political opposition is not working for the people but for their own selfish agenda.
The guidance from the bishop is very clear. In fact, these two valid points should be spoken in one breath if not at the same time. Many people who jump all over the president, either to defend or attack her are not working for the country. They are part of the two opposing camps trying to perpetuate or to grab their turn to suck the blood out of our people.
jonas
July 2nd, 2005 at 8:52 am
For a while there I thought, just like Gloria’s apology, Archbishop Rosales’ pronouncement came a little too late. I said this because the second principle of the statement that calls for respect in the Constitution sounded like an echo of her holiness’ statement, Cory Aquino.
No question the first principle is a special delivery for Malacanang and it is a sign that the Catholic Church is slowly distancing itself from the administration. It’s about time Father.
Anyway, as always, the Church’s pronouncements are made up of issues concerning the poor, the government and its officers, oppressors and the oppressed, prayers and all that and I’m all for it and I say amen to Archbishop Rosales. One thing I noticed though is that it did not include people that are best described as wolves in sheep’s clothing, those popish than the pope, those opportunists in yellow clothing that thrive in situations we’re in right now. In other words, the Church did not the mention anything about the hypocrites in our midst.
These modern day demons that usually comes out when their turf is under threat are now very visible. But since most of the time they rub elbows with church people they were able to camouflage their true agenda. They’ll stop at nothing, even co-opting the church, just to make sure their hold for power is maintained.
Maybe next time the Church should focus on these people.
Rizalist
July 2nd, 2005 at 11:04 am
Gaudencio Rosales may not be another Cardinal Sin — we should give him the benefit of this doubt until he proves himself otherwise. I am surprised to find myself in substantial agreement with his five stated “fundamental principles.” Although the line about staying within the bounds of the Constitution has been the thump of Malacanang drumbeating, it is a principled stand that does not at the same time uphold Edsa Dos as “Constitutional” in the same way that Cory Aquino said it was. This is an important difference. Also, his first point, that there can be no apology without accountability, no forgiveness without justice and the truth being revealed–this cannot but put fear in the hearts of the President’s men, for it sends a powerful signal that they cannot hope to find cover under friar skirts this time around. This may be the stroke that breaks the logjam among her allies and causes them to abandon the circled wagon train.
juan_dela_cruz
July 2nd, 2005 at 11:20 am
To Alagad who posted: “Time to Move On.”
Move on to where? Move on to what? Move on to more cheating, lying, kidnapping? It’s ok to be angry if we channel it against cheating, lying, kidnapping, etc. As i’ve said earlier, evil easily triumphs when good people don’t do anything, just stand at the sidelines and choose to move on.
Time to move on? Go ahead just bring gma with you and please tell her to move on to someplace far-away, preferably in jail.
jammer
July 2nd, 2005 at 11:21 am
alam nyo… weather weather lang yan… kung saan makikinabang ang catholic church, dun sila kakampi. di sila nakinabang kay marcos… si kay aquino sila…
sinubukan ni mitra mag pro aquinonalo si miriam pero dinugas ni ramos…. para walang tanong, ano ang makukuha nila
nanalo si erap, nawalan sila ng papel, pinuwersa ni erap ilegalize ang jueteng, contra sila kasi may phil charity sweepstakes… sa isang conspiracy ni gloria at afp… naging consistent sila sa ayaw ni sin so popular revolt na naman.
si gloria na…. namatay si sin… d nila alam ang gagawin so watak watak pa yang mga yan…. pag na-identify na kung saan sila may pakinabang… dun sila.
just think… parehong katoliko si gma at erap… ang mga pari magkakaiba basbas… nangangahulugan ba na hindi magkaisa ang doctrina ng pari ukol sa pamumuhay sa bansa natin?
galit siya kay marcos…. dami dahilan… dahil aglipayan si marcos and pays little tribute to him?
nakawala na tayo sa sistema ng kastila… na ang mga pari talaga ang gumagahasa sa inang bayan natin… at wag nyo sabihing hindi…. ( NOTE… MGA PANGANAY NA ANAK NOON PANAHON NILA AY GALING SA PARI)
KUNG SAAN MAY PAKINABANG… DOON SILA.. AT GUSTO PA NILA IENJOY ANG PAMUMUNO O IMPLUWENSIYA NILA TULAD NOONG PANAHON NG KASTILA…
pacheck nyo kung ilan, from 1880 hanggang ngayong 2005 na may paring may anak…. note, hindi kasal yan. even cardinal sin has kids…
immoral? then agen… dun may pakinabang eh…
anyway… if anyone can help me, kindly look on kris aquino…. gene level… pakiverify kung kay benigno siya. tnx… again, gene level… di ako naniniwala sa birth certificate dahil kulang ang genes dun. tnx.
jjc1384
July 2nd, 2005 at 11:30 am
Siguro iniisip ni GMA na sana buhay si Sin kasi wala na siyang makukuhang supporta kay Arch. Rosales…Wawa naman, sanay pa naman siya na yung simbahan ang nanakip sa mga kasalanan niya… Arch. Rosales is more fair compared to Sin… At least di siya lumabas at nagsabi na I Support GMA….. Tama naman sinabi niya eh, compared sa sinabi ni Aquino…
jammer
July 2nd, 2005 at 11:42 am
pinayari nga nya si sin para hindi mag rally sa edsa eh. he he he
rich___ong
July 2nd, 2005 at 12:48 pm
Bishop wala na po ako mabigay na offering sa Mass dahil sa E-VAT. Siguro ang gobyerno na lang magbibigay sa inyo sila naman nag collect ng VAT. CONSTITUTIONAL naman po ang ginawa gawa ko na bag bayad ng buwis na umubos ng sweldo ko diba?
claymore
July 2nd, 2005 at 1:40 pm
Nabasa ko ang kolum ng PDI, tungkol dito.
Nakakalungkot ngang malaman na wala ng KREDIBILIDAD ang pahayagang ito. Ang pahayagang matagal kung inasahan magmumulat sa katotohanan.
Totoo nga, ako’y namulat, na NGAYON alam kong walang KATOTOHANAN, laban sa PERA, KAPANGYARIHAN, at PANGSARILING INTERES.
ISANG HAMON….
MAGLAGAY NG ISANG PAKSA UKOL SA MGA “KATOTOHANAN SA LIKOD NG PAMAMAHAYAG”
xinu
July 2nd, 2005 at 3:01 pm
naku, ayan na naman ang mga pari nakikialam na naman. Ilaganap nyo na lang ang salita ng dyos huag na kayong makisawsaw. marami ng problema ang pinas huag na kayong dumagdag
xinu
July 2nd, 2005 at 3:09 pm
juan dela cruz: lahat naman nyan nandaya eh. ang problema sa mga pinoy they cannot admit natalunan sila. tapos na ang election bakit they waited 1 year for that to come up. what is the reason–>to de-establize the govt. the country’s ecomony is slowly picking up. nangungulelat na ang pilipinas. nauunahan na kayo ng India, china, vietnam at korea. Ano bang merong pagiisip talaga kayo. kung sinogn maging presidente pag ayaw nyo gusto nyong palitan. bakit hindi nyo na lang tapusin ang term ni PGMA at magtulungayon kayo sa ikakaunlad ng bansa nyo. the country is going down the drain and it’s becoming BANANA REPUBLIC. those oppositions are just trying to de-establize the govt b/c they have their own agenda. lahat yan are eyeing for power. May god!!! gumaganda na ng konti ang pinas. I dotn think Ninoy Aquino is right when he said “Filipino is worth dying for”…. Think think think. Ciao, peace not war!!!!!
worrier
July 2nd, 2005 at 3:48 pm
I have to agree that The Catholic Church shouldn’t meddle with the affair of the state especially like we’re experiencing right now.. Our country is already divided as it is. How I wish everyone of us would take a stand reagarding the issues surrounding us right now. Some of us just keep on complaining but wouldn’t do anything about it. God bless to all of us.
CGBacani
July 2nd, 2005 at 11:20 pm
Tama si Bishop sa sinabi niya:
“First, let us remember that the offended cannot simply be consoled by expressions of regret. Forgiveness does not eliminate the need for justice, nor should it block the search for truth. Genuine forgiveness demands more than an apology, and those who seek forgiveness should be ready to be called to accountability.”
Let us remember that Bishop Rosales, represents the Church at natural we expect a conservative call to action. Alangan naman sabihin ng ating Obispo na mag-aklas na ang bayan. Our consitution after all provides all the avenues for people action at kasama na dito ang people power as a legal and constitutional course of action. Otherwise the people power 2 could have been rendered unconstitional by the Supreme Court.
The frustration of the Church is further aggreavated by the fact that our leaders — past and present have not done anything good for the country. This despite the phenomenal people’s movement such as that of the People Power revolution that brought GMA to power.
In fact GMA have betrayed the people’s aspirations who installed her to power in Edsa Dos and her admission of rigging the elections, only shows her Trapo character unbeffiting of people’s support.
In fact the Church, have expected a high moral ground and reforms under GMA considering that her term was brough up by a people power similar to that of Cory Aquino. The Church is expecting her to be the opposite of Estrada and who is in a position to lead the country to economic prosperity.
It is clear that the Church is frustrated with GMA and the good Bishop said it very clearly:
“Let us not fall easy prey to those self-seeking politicians from all the different political parties, who have held the country’s future hostage to their own ambitions, and have brought us to where we sadly find ourselves today.”
Ginawa na ito to GMA at patuloy pa rin niyang ginagawa.
Kaya nanawagan si Bishop Rosales na this time, in the post GMA scenario, let us not repeat what happened in EDSA DOS, installing another politician like GMA.
While Bishop Rosales is not offering any political alternatives, He suggested some guidance for us to follow. That is precisely is the role of the Church today.
The Church call for prayers should serve as our guide to action.
jonas
July 3rd, 2005 at 2:08 am
to xinu,
Sa haba ng sinabi mo wala kang nabanggit tungkol sa CD/tapes. Why did you avoided the main issue? Hindi isyu ‘yung hindi pag-amin na ang pinoy ay talunan. Ang isyu e kung talagang natalo? Mukha yatang ‘yung sinasabing nanalo ay siyang natalo kaya tayo nagkakagulo ngayon.
Who waited for one (1) year? Not me. Not those people in the street.
Kung ako ang tatanungin dapat inilabas ito nuong burol ni FPJ. Pero dahil siguro kakampi ni Gloria ang naglabas they decided to release it according to their schedule.
The country will officially become a BANANA REPUBLIC if we’re going to
let Gloria’s treachery passed. No, the opposition does not destabilize the government. It was Gloria’s and Garci’s voice which produced the destabilization. Alisin mo ‘yung mga boses ni Gloria at Garci sa CD and tapes tignan mo kung may mag-ma-martsa sa kalsada. See?
Peace also here, pero this one’s sincere and walang daya.
jonas
July 3rd, 2005 at 6:34 am
to xinu,
If we’re going to allow Gloria to get away with fraud this country will become officially a BANANA REPUBLIC.
Who waited for one year? Not me; not those people in the street. If the opposition did this they could have done this during FPJ’s wake to gather sympathy. Apparently, mga taga kampo rin ni Gloria ang nagpalabas nito.
Hindi nag-de-destabilize ang opposition. It’s the voices of Gloria and Garci in the tape which destabilizes the nation. Subukan mong tanggalin ang mga boses nila sa tape tignan mo kung may mag-martsa sa kalsada (but it’s too late na).
Agree ako, gumaganda na nga sana ang Pinas biglang pinapangit uli ni Gloria.
freewheel
July 3rd, 2005 at 9:18 am
attn; phil. daily inquirer,
mula nuong natutu akong magbasa, kapansin-pansin ang pag-baba ng uri ng inyong paninindigan, mula sa tono ng mga editoryal hanggang sa pagpili ng mga isyung patitingkarin. tsk,tsk.
maliban sa ilang kolumnista tulad nina ceres, conrado, mlqIII, — wala na halos saysay upang tangkilikin pa ito. ang kanilang pangakong ipagpatuloy ang eggie apostol legacy ay nauwi na rin sa hangin. mula sa fearless journalism, napunta na ito sa klasikal FANGLESS journalism.
kasama na ba kayo sa big business, inc?
juan_dela_cruz
July 3rd, 2005 at 11:30 am
To Xinu who posted: “lahat naman nyan nandaya eh. ang problema sa mga pinoy they cannot admit natalunan sila.
My response:
So is it ok to cheat? What message do you want to convey to our youth? You can run for president, cheat and if you get caught just say sorry coz people will forgive and forget? You don’t even have to return what you have stolen?
Xinu:
“tapos na ang election bakit they waited 1 year for that to come up. what is the reason–>to de-establize the govt.”
My response:
You should follow the news, last May lang naibigay yung tape.
And why is it so hard to resign ba? Nabuking na, kapit tuko pa sa posisyon. Excume me, not all people who want her to resign belongs to the opposition. Randy David? Conrado de Quiros? among others. hello????
claymore
July 3rd, 2005 at 2:38 pm
FREEWHEEL
Salamat naman at “napansin” mo rin ang nangyayari sa pahayagang ito.
Napakalayo sa kinagisnan kong pamamalita na kaakibat na ng kanilang pangalan.
Hindi sa ako’y naninira, ngunit matagal akong tagasubaybay ng pahayagang ito, wala ni sa katiting ang paraan ng kanilang pagbabalita mula sa pamahalaang MARCOS hanggang kay ESTRADA.
Pilit kong binabalik-balikan ang kanilang mga nakalipas na mga sipi, at pilit hinahanap kung saan banda “nagbago” ang paraan ng pagbabalita.
ANO BA ANG KANILANG “PANUKAT” SA MGA NAGING LIDER NG BANSANG ITO?
ANG IBA AY “BABANATAN” at “BUBUGBUGIN” ng walang patawad….
HABANG ANG IBA AY “KUKURUTIN” na may kasama pang sorry..
NAKAKALITO..
ANO BA ANG KATAPAT NG KATOTOHANAN????
fandong
July 3rd, 2005 at 7:32 pm
ano na ba ang nangyari sa PDI? mukhang pera rin pala ang mga prieto. sayang lang ang inumpisahan ni apostol. puro pa cute na lang ang laman. yong star naman, palagi mong makikita si soliven. nawala pa si benigno. buti na lang mayroon pang PCIJ. kaya lang paano ang masa?
dsaint
July 3rd, 2005 at 7:58 pm
PWEDE KAYANG MAGKAROON NG NEWSPAPER ANG PCIJ?
“IMBESTIGADOR NG BAYAN” OR “DAILY INVESTIGATOR”
jay cynikho
July 3rd, 2005 at 8:40 pm
DI TULAD NI CORY na palaging may hinihiling sa Diyos:
tayong mga sumusulat dito sa PCIJ ay dapat magpasalamat sa Diyos sapagkat ang Pinoy kumpara sa ibang lahi ay mabuting anak ng diyos pa rin kahit napapaligiran ng mga pharisee.
BAKIT? sa ibang bansa ang mga tao pag nagalit dahil wina walang hiya sila ng gobiernoay nagra-riot agad; naglo-looting agad, nag susunog ng mga gusali ng mga nagwawalang hiya sa kanila.
Ilang dyaryo, ilang shopping center, marami sasakyan ng gobierno, ilang mansion KUNG NASA IBANG BANSA LANG MATAGAL NANG SINUNOG NG MGA GALIT NA TAO.
KAYA PASALAMAT TAYO SA DIYOS, PINOY TAYO, KAHIT SUKDULAN NA ANG GALIT COOL PA RIN TAYO.
kaya ang Inquirer na tinutuligsa ninyo, dapat din magpasalamat nang malaki sa Diyos.
jammer
July 3rd, 2005 at 8:46 pm
I STILL ADMIRE THE ARMED FORCES OF THE PHILIPPINES.
A TRUE SET OF SOLDIERS WE HAVE…
ALL LOYAL TO GMA..
NONE TO THE CONSTITUTION.
asher62
July 5th, 2005 at 11:23 am
The pastoral letter of Archbishop is so far the best we can hear from a leader of the Catholic Church. Unlike the position espoused by the three (3) stogees bishops (Tobias, Yniquez and labayen). The letter of Abp. Rosales is in line with the mission of the Church which is Evangelization.
INSIDE PCIJ: Stories behind our stories » Awaiting the bishops’ move
July 6th, 2005 at 7:17 pm
[…] Rosales, meanwhile, led bishops in Metro Manila in declaring Arroyo’s public apology as inadequate. “Genuine forgiveness demands more than an apology, and those who seek forgiveness should be ready to be called to accountability,” the metropolitan bishops said in a statement. […]
INSIDE PCIJ: Stories behind our stories » Arroyo’s alma mater demands accountability
July 7th, 2005 at 11:32 am
[…] Amidst the political crisis facing our country today, we, the Religious of the Assumption and the Assumption College, strongly endorse the Pastoral Letter of Archbishop Gaudencio Rosales, DD. We root ourselves in the Christian principles of our foundress, Blessed Marie Eugenie, to guide us during these challenging times: […]
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