February 25, 2006 · Posted in: In the News, State of Emergency
Daily Tribune: ‘We will not be cowed’
DAILY Tribune publisher Ninez Cacho-Olivarez wrote this after police raided the Tribune office today. The publisher’s note will appear in the paper’s Feb. 26 issue.
Martial law
Publisher’s Note
President Arroyo and her aides may choose to call it a Declaration of the State of Emergency, but the stench of Martial Law has pervaded the entire country.
For what else can one call a warrantless raid of The Daily Tribune at an ungodly hour of 12:45 a.m. Saturday, where armed and uniformed policemen swooped down on the newspaper offices and raided these offices, without a search warrant and even filching some papers without even a witness present, then ordering the padlocking of the offices and then having at least three policemen guarding the area, claiming they were doing so to “ensure that nothing gets lost.”
At the same time, another police operation was ongoing, almost simultaneously, raiding the printing press with the policemen demanding to know from the night shift where our distribution centers were, and confiscating the last bundle which was to be picked up by a news dealer.
Later, on questioning the policemen why they were in the premises, the reply was that they were ordered to secure the area which is a “possible source of destabilization.”
Then came the Philippine National Police chief Director General, Arturo Lomibao, telling the media that the Tribune has been taken over temporarily and that the administration is mulling the supervision of the editorial content of the paper since the Tribune may be conspiring with the opposition to bring down the regime of Gloria Arroyo.
It was also said the Tribune will be made to submit to the police authorities its final copy for approval. The regime is also reportedly thinking of taking over the operations of the newspaper and have the government publish it.
As this is being written, another phalanx of policemen has been deployed to the printing press offices, waiting for the Tribune to roll to press, with the clear intention to stop its printing.
And all this is claimed by the Palace to be constitutional and to quote the presidential legal counsel, Eduardo Nachura, the declaration of emergency rule by Mrs. Arroyo is precisely done to safeguard our freedoms and democracy.
And despite the fact of the raid and the probable arrest of the publisher, the Palace insists that this has not occurred and that it has no plans of controlling the paper.
They call a government takeover of a newspaper, a private enterprise, in which any government has no business poking its hand, critical or not.
The Constitution says no law, which means no law — whether by Congress or a dictatorial executive with her declarations — can be enacted abridging the freedom of the press. This also means that government is not vested with the right or authority to exercise prior restraint on the press.
The acts against the press hardly enhance the people’s freedoms and democracy. It in fact ensures the suppression of these freedoms.
Gloria and her aides don’t have any respect for the constitutional freedoms of a people and especially of the press that is critical of the Gloria Arroyo regime.
Her emergency declaration is done for only one purpose: Gloria’s political survival. She can no longer take criticisms. She wants control of the press to ensure that the dirt that sticks to her and her government will be hidden.
She does not care about the rule of law, or the Constitution, or the freedoms of a people.
All she cares for is her political survival.
Charges will be manufactured, as evidence will be manufactured, to jail those who defy her.
The Tribune will continue defying her. We will not be cowed.
She can order the closure of the Tribune, but we will not close down the Tribune in fear of her.
We were not cowed during the martial law years. We will not be cowed today.
106 Responses to Daily Tribune: ‘We will not be cowed’
LadyL
February 26th, 2006 at 1:52 am
According to Mrs. Arroyo she declared the state of emergency because of the clear and present danger to the Country. She did not state herself appropriately here. In her statement, she should have said that: “There was a clear and present danger to her illigitimate presidency”. Gloria will do anything and everything just to hang on to power. How can she stoop down this low in curtailing civil liberties and violating human rights all over again?. Her actions are a travesty to the ideals of democracy that we fought so hard for 20 years ago. My generation was the one that bore the brunt of the government and military abuses during martial law years. This is not my generation’s dream. What we have dreamed and aspired for is for the Philippines to be a true democratic country where its citizens have the freedom to express themselves freely without fear of retribution by the government. The Philippines is not a democratic Country anymore. It’s democratic ideals are being trampled by a “4 foot something” woman who’s legitimacy is being highly questioned by a majority of it’s constituents.
How can an illegitimate president declare a state of emergency?
The nerve that woman has! It’s time to take a stand!
Chabeli
February 26th, 2006 at 2:04 am
The State of National Emergency (SoNE) is yet another attempt of MIGHTY BOND (aka GMA) to remain in power!!!!!
MIGHTY BOND’s credibility is so shot, I’m beginning to doubt there was even a coup to speak of. She just wanted to find a way to remain in power. She NEVER cared for the people, MOST ESPECIALLY the less fortunate; she never cared for the country either!
GLORIA IS THE WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION OF THE PHILIPPINES!!!
Rizalist
February 26th, 2006 at 2:40 am
I miss the cerebral Rigoberto Tiglao at the president’s ear when ‘deep thinking’ was needed. Now there is the mercurial Rasputin, Mike Defensor, who knows the enemy better than they know themselves, but tends to be a pure tactician with no real convictions about anything. He is the ultimate provocateur and counterpuncher. Maybe Proclamation 1017 is the manifestation of what is sometimes called New Second-in-Command Syndrome–Mike Defensor’s way of asserting his new, more central role. A true lil president with an aggressive style abetted by Rick Saludo. But the move on the Tribune is truly cynical. They know someone like Ninez can never be cowed…but think of the chilling effect it projects to the rest of the media. Even if the PDIs/PCIJs/Tribunes cry aloud and long for press freedom now, but the smaller, less famous, more “vulnerable” media, especially radio, are already cowed seeing the Krystallnacht on the most radical Jew in town–an opposition newspaper like Tribune. It’s so Defensoresque. He’ll take all the eloquent moralistic hits but he gains the objective desired of mesmerizing the rest with fear and uncertainty. As for the biggies, even they may suddenly get nervous calls from likewise vulnerable “public utilities tainted with public interst”–Smart and Globe. The shape of things to come….
Giv’em hell Ninez. Of course they want you to. Scares the living daylights out of lesser men and women in the working, not freedom-loving Press, seeing what eternal vigilance means pala.
LadyL
February 26th, 2006 at 4:01 am
I read Lomibao’s statement in inq7.net today about the media. Napaka sipsip ng mukhang bangkay na heneral na ‘yan sa bogus na administrayong Arrovo. You make me puke, Mr. Lomibao! You don’t deserve to be called a general.
To the media, don’t be afraid to make a stand. The truth is on your side!
mascarinasfm
February 26th, 2006 at 5:45 am
After 20 years of hoping after EDSA I, I came to realize that hope is a distant possibility for this country. Honestly, I am one of those planing to leave the country for good. Why? Hope is evident every new year as the economy started to show good signs, but there are just mindless Filipinos who just want to make our lives miserable. It’s a cycle year in year out… so i said, its really hopeless. Personally, I firmly believe, our MEDIA is instrumental in this. Listen to what our media portrays as compared to others in the Region or even the world. Our MEDIA reports as NEWS speculations, unverified facts, confusing. Isn’t media report news as it happens , not those that are suppoed or planned to happen. Many media outlets are out there to sow confusion. Our MEDIA in fact are alive reporting and blowing up the BAD things happening in this country. WHAT about the GOOD things. There are a LOT of them to report and talk about. What I am trying to say here is RESPONSIBILITY. Unless our PRESS understand what it means in connection to Nation building, this country is hoooopelesss. Our people are fond of chismis, we want to consume and talk about things that are speculative. IN FACT, we have lots of ENERGIES for Speculation and sowing confusion and ANGER. WE HAVE NOT CHANNELED our energies to positive things that contribute to nation building.
ALL FEARS of matial law are one of those speculations. JUST GO straight to the FACT that there are plots of destabilization. Any NORMAL filipino can see that clearly. What about the TRG? I’m sure Ninez Cacho Olivares knew about that. What she wants the govt to do? Act later when its too late to save the nation from chaos? THE TRG is a dangerous thing, power hungry people from left to right wanting to form a TRANSITIONARY REVOLUTION GOVERNMENT(TRG) and thier common goal is to get rid of ARROYO? Do these people have plans on what to do with our foreign debt?, the VAT, the oil price problems? Have they agreed already on various issues facing the country. I’m pretty sure after they take over, they will quarrel among one another. That would be a very problematic situation that will surely bring down our peso to the 100 per dollar level…. Again, MEDIA responsibility. THE REAL essence of PRESS FREEDOM is repsonsibility to the country, not just to ones ideology or cause but to nation building as a whole. Thus I believe, the government is just right in declaring the state of emergency to remind every one especially MEDIA that we have to be RESPONSIBLE enough. WE are clamoring for democracy, yet we do not understand the RESPONSIBILITY that is important in building our democracy. WE should be responsible citizens to matter what we do as a profession. WHAT many Filipinos are doing now are just fighting and protesting in the name of freedom…blaming those in authority. We have a Culture of blaming others.. what the heck. HAVE we not come to the point of exhaustion? WHY not REALLY look at ourselves first, examine what we can contribute as citizen to the betterment of this country. THE ONLY PERSON TO BLAME is actually, OURSELVES, not GMA, not anybody. LET US FISRT BE RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS. IF WE CANNOT BE THAT, I BELIEVE the GOVERNMENT SHOULD DO WHAT IS NECESSARY TO IMPOSE THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO PEOPLE WHO ARE OBSTRUCTING THE PROGRESS OF THE NATION… MEDIA is number one in that list.
FORM an ordinary disgruntled FILIFINO who wanted to immigrate OUT of this country.
MitaMS
February 26th, 2006 at 5:48 am
bravo mascarinasfm!
MitaMS
February 26th, 2006 at 6:13 am
mascarinasfm,
I love what you wrote and how you wrote it. It speaks more truth than a lot of Filipino blogs and newspapers I’ve been reading lately.
May I have your permission to copy it in its entirety so I can post it in my blog? I’m not much of a writer nor is my new blog famous. Like you, I’m just an ordinary, disgruntled Filipino.
I think it’s time those of us who just want to see our country move forward get together and let our voice be heard. Please reply to: mitams@satviz.com
luzviminda
February 26th, 2006 at 7:00 am
Malacañang officials are saying that they do not have a hand in the raid of The Daily Tribune. They are saying that the PNP has ‘their reasons’ in doing the raid. Delikado ito, there is the danger of ‘ABUSE’. Ibig bang sabihin the police CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT? Paano kung ang isang pangkaraniwang pulis ay umabuso laban sa karapatan ng isang mamamayan dahil sa sitwasyon ng ‘State of Emergency’?
PATAY NA ULI ANG DEMOKRASYA SA PILIPINAS!!!
De Brux
February 26th, 2006 at 7:05 am
Yeah, Ninez, you got the grit, guts and gall more than any of the Palace spin freaks combined!
Go Ninez go!
Give those thieves in Gloria’s government of the corrupt a run for their stolen money!
dakdak
February 26th, 2006 at 7:06 am
mascarinasfm,
Well said! I come in unison with your feelings. You have expressed in its entirety what I have always wanted to write in this blog.
baycas
February 26th, 2006 at 7:09 am
as always, there are two sides of a coin…media excesses on the one hand, startling revelations on the other…
i’m still for media’s role as watchdogs…like in the cases of gloria’s venable contract and bush’s us ports deal.
media to be cowed into puppies? naah…
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luz, remember the tabayoyong incident? and there was no SONE at the time…
luzviminda
February 26th, 2006 at 7:25 am
Baycas, yun na nga eh. The question is, where and who should the order of arrest or raid be coming from? May mga pagkilos pala ang mga pulis na hindi alam ng malacañang. Paano kung may galit ang isang pulis sa isang simpleng mamamayan? Who will watch over the excesses of the police in this kind of ‘state of paranoia’? Pwede naman nilang hulihin at sampahan ng kaso ang mga inaakala nilang lumalabag sa batas without declaring SONE. If they believe in democracy. Naka-broadcast tuloy tayo sa ibang bansa. Gloria has put the country into shame in the eyes of the international community. Arroyo is really PARANOID!
luzviminda
February 26th, 2006 at 7:27 am
Baycas, yun na nga eh. The question is, where and who should the order of arrest or raid be coming from? May mga pagkilos pala ang mga pulis na hindi alam ng malacañang. Paano kung may galit ang isang pulis sa isang simpleng mamamayan? Who will watch over the excesses of the police in this kind of ‘state of paranoia’? Pwede naman nilang hulihin at sampahan ng kaso ang mga inaakala nilang lumalabag sa batas without declaring SONE. If they believe in democracy. Naka-broadcast tuloy tayo sa iba’t-ibang bansa. Gloria has put the country into shame in the eyes of the international community. Arroyo is really PARANOID!
ms. bayani
February 26th, 2006 at 7:27 am
mascarinasfm…mitams…dakdaksaid…..
you totally do not get it at all…think the three of you are lost with the true implications of the political crisis gripping the nation.
you totally fell to distorted gov’t propaganda and what the traditional politicians would like us to be:
just move on…and do not mind the thieving, lying and stealing
to the three of you….these enemies are vicious…BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF PESOS lost in corruption….the mistakes that the EDSA revolution that should have been corrected through their efforts were not realized…SAME FAMILIES OF TRADITIONAL POLITICIANS going back to power since marcos days…ang masama pa nakaka-impluwensya pa sila. even treating the whole political spectrum as a big BARKADAHAN system. guess it will take an enormous effort on the good forces to resist these vicious enemies….LET’S ALL TEACH THEM A LESSON….HUMILIATE THEM AND ONCE AND FOR ALL PUT THEM BEHIND BARS IF PROVEN GUILTY!!!!!
luzviminda
February 26th, 2006 at 7:51 am
Here is an excerpt from the article about the arrest of Mr. Randy David here in PCIJ:
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= By the time they were brought to the police camp, there were already about 30 people being detained. “They even thanked us, thinking we were there to visit them,” related David.
The detainees were from Bagong Silang in Caloocan, many were women and children, the youngest of whom was only seven years old. David learned that they were arrested in Greenhills for a traffic violation — they were onboard a jeepney enroute to the Edsa Shrine that was out of line.
When David and his group were finally allowed to go, he thought all of those detained, which by then had grown to 85, were also being set free. He found out that they were herded to the camp’s firing range.
“Most were children from the slums who hadn’t eaten since the time they were brought in,” David said.=
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This is an example of an ABUSE that I am fearful of. Imagine people are being arrested just because they violated a traffic regulation! The police could just have issued a Traffic ticket! THE POLICE CAN FILE A CASE TO THOSE FOUND VIOLATING A LAW. NO NEED FOR ‘STATE OF PARANOIA’.
MGA KABABAYAN KO…(tulad nina mascarinasfm, mitams, dakdak)IMULAT NINYO ANG INYONG MGA MATA AT ISIPAN!!!
HUWAG MAGPALOKO!!!
SI ARROYO ANG NANGGULO, NANGGUGULO AT MANGGUGULO PA!!!
baycas
February 26th, 2006 at 7:54 am
luz, pure and simple harrassment from the administration. sampling beltran with age-old case, much like tribune’s…
also remember that gloria’s saint michaels are on her side to effect this “state of panic” (borrowing mlq3’s assessment).
SONE is gloria’s cry of bravado saying who’s boss and cry of despair saying “please, please follow me…”
http://www.pcij.org/blog/?p=629#comment-18847
luzviminda
February 26th, 2006 at 8:14 am
Ang amusing pa dito eh…
ANG MGA TAGA-MALAKANYANG, INIWANAN SA ERE SI LOMIBAO at PNP!!! Dahil wala daw silang alam sa pangre-raid sa The Daily Tribune.
MGA SINUNGALING TALAGA!!!
MGA MAHAL NAMING PULIS AT MGA SUNDALO, HUWAG KAYONG PUMAYAG NA GAWING PUPPET NI ARROYO!!!
GINAGAMIT LANG KAYO FOR HER POLITICAL SURVIVAL!!!
concerned citizen
February 26th, 2006 at 8:22 am
hello mr. alecks could you please allow me to post the blog of my son, a political science student from one catholic school here in manila. just want it to share to our dear bloggers. related din po sa topic. thank you have a good day and God bless!
“The declaration of the “State of National Emergency” at Proclamation Number 1017 by President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo ushered in a new era in the Philippines, one of deceit, deception and thievery. Or perhaps we never expected it, nor did we want it.
Stealing is bad, you should know that, it on the Ten Commandments given by God to Moses on Mount Sinai (or Horeb). We were taught not to steal. We were told not to cheat (Okay, we cheat on exams but that’s still not good).
But when you steal, you cheat, you rob a person of his rights; you don’t control that person any longer. That person has ceased to be under your control. When you rob the people of their property, expect the full brunt of their anger. But when you rob their ideals, dreams, aspirations and their rights, expect the wrath of God.
People may say that Arroyo cheating on the elections was good, for it saved the country from the cudgels of Fernando Poe, Jr. (rest in peace) and his cohorts. They viewed Arroyo as the “lesser evil,” perhaps other see her as the only “good,” and perhaps “best” candidate. They even acknowledge that even though Arroyo cheated, it was sufficient for her to defeat Poe (perhaps they did not know that when you cheat, whether or nor it surpassed the votes of the opponent, it is still illegal, according to the Omnibus Election Code).
Yet, how can we be so sure that Poe would be bad, nay, worse than President Estrada (who was deposed by the Supreme Court at the height of EDSA 2)? How sure are these people? Are they soothsayers, nay, God? Who are they to rig the elections? Are they higher than the law?
And know, State of Emergency has descended among us. We live out daily lives not knowing what will happen. Will I be arrested? Will my rights be curtailed?
Former Vice President Teofisto Guingona at the EDSA Shrine rally. | Free Image Hosting at http://www.ImageShack.usArroyo is on the verge of a dictatorship. Let us not deny it, State of Emergency, at least on the Filipino context, covers economics exclusively. No politics. Yet Arroyo has proven her expertise as a master politician. What could be worse than martial law? Now you ask me: “Is there anything worse than martial law?”
The 1987 Constitution allows the President to declare martial law on these grounds: to suppress lawless violence, invasion or rebellion. Aside from those grounds, the 1987 constitution has another restriction: Congress (that is, Senate and the House), must convene within 48 hours after the declaration to debate matters.
Now the state of emergency can go on forever. Okay, indefinitely, you get my point. Arroyo can place the nation under the state of emergency for as long as she wants, come hell, fire and brimstone and high water. With the ambiguity of the term “state of emergency,” the Arroyo administration can do anything that they’d want to. From warrant-less searches, warrant-less arrests, heck even summary executions. Also, Arroyo’s allies at Congress may not allow anybody from talking about it, while in session. Anything is possible.
Now you know why Arroyo wants to change the constitution. Badly.
Back to the state of emergency, now why did she declare state of emergency? What are the grounds? Was there really clear and present danger? If the conspirators were captured, and they are all under custody, then what is the point? Can’t the normal laws run? If state of emergency is declared, then she would have negated all of her so-called economic “reforms” such as the highly unpopular Expanded-VAT, which will cause the flight of investors.
Or is it a plan gone all wrong? Remember, Marcos allowed the staged shooting of Juan Ponce Enrile to pave the ground for the declaration of martial law in 1973, is Arroyo doing the same old thing? Is this, in what wrestling aficionados call, a work? And with the proposed constitution’s futures dimming, is this another way to stay in power? Is still an overkill? When will this be lifted? Is Arroyo stepping into the unknown? Will she usher in a dictatorship?
It clearly shows that Arroyo planned this. And the suppression of human rights (reports say that she has the 2nd worst human rights record among Philippine presidents, after Marcos) will continue.
Will we ever see the light? We can only hope.”
kalibugan
February 26th, 2006 at 8:24 am
that ugly evil female hobbitt will do anything and everything to cling to the power she loves so dearly. whoa is the philippines, for darkness has descended on the land.
mascarinasfm
February 26th, 2006 at 10:14 am
Hi everyone. I agree that corruption is a big problem, traditional politicians perpetuate that problem. BUT again, look at what we do as citizen? Do you believe that by CHANGING GLORIA can solve that? NO WAY… THAT will just change the personalities but still same problem will exist. ANG CHALLENG ko sa lahat , ano bang kongretong gianawa natin as citizen to help out. Certainly, rallying, protesting and singling out GLORIA as the problem will not solve anythinh. WHO WIll replace her? SAME trad pols, same system… SO IF WE WANT CHANGE, start with ourselves, little by little by doing our part of the solution, DON’T BE PART OF THE PROBLEM… WE have changed presidents twice already through the POEPLE POWER style… great acts for the Filipinos,,, but nothing happened because we dont not improve as an individual as a citizen, we still have the MIND SET that everything is blamed on GOVERNMENT, whoever is the president….. GIVE ME alternative and i might agree with you guys… I still believe in the principle of “lesser evil”. TRUE GLORIA has mistakes, has lapses, our govt still has corruption, stealing… BUT WHO ELSE IS CLEAN in this COUNTRY??? Evrybody can be accused of anything… WHO is CLEANER to govern us all ?? ERAP???, the COUP PLOTERS???,, the OPPOSITIONS who are TRAPO’s themselves. PEOPLE look at the political crisis and GLORIA as the big problem,,, AS IF , that is the IMMEDIATE problem we have to SOLVE. PEOPLE pf tHE PHILIPPINES, the BIGGEST PROBLEM is how to GIVE WORK to EACH OUR COUNTRY MEN so that THEY WILL NOT LEAVE this country like what I am already planning…. THE PROBLEM is HOW TO MAKE OUR ECONOMY GROW to make us more VIABLE as a NATION…. LOOK at the SQUATTERS in METRO MANILA…. that is the PROBLEM… AND THAT IS NOT CAUSED BY GLORIA… THAT IS INHERITED from the MISTAKES and CORRUPTION OF THE PAST…SO THAT REMOVING A PRESIDENT Again and AGAIN is not a SOLUTION…. HOW about supporting all the ECONOMIC AGENDA??? WIll it not help solve the problem??? DO we pay our taxes well? Do we ask RECEIPTS everytime we purchase something??? Do we not buy Pirated CD’s n DVD??? THose are more nationalistic things to do than PARTICIPATING in a destabilization protests and actions that could JUST turn away INVESTORS out of the COUNTRY????…. Sus,, hwag na mga rhetoric dyan,,, KARAMIHAN kasi sa atin may HANGOVER pa sa MARTIAL LAW ni MARCOS… Lumipas na yon… FEELING ng IBA, inaapi SILA,,, and they want to broadcast and perpetuate the FEELING that they are OPPRESSED and they want REVENGE,,, mahilig kasi tayo sa TELENOVELA’s… THIS IS THE AGE OF TECHNOLOGY… the government is NOT FOOLISH enough to go back to that MARTIAL LAW days because it cannot work anymore…. LOOK at what we do now??? Do you think this can be censored??? how about the TXT messages, can they censor that??? PEOPLE just want to BLOW up things to the MARTIAL level to create a Feeling that they are oppressed. ARE their STEALING in govt like during the MARCOS days???? SO for me, THERE IS NO REASON for COMPARISON.. the FACT of the MATTER is there are PLANS for A TRANSITIONAL REVOLUTIONARY GOVERNMENT (TRG) that is supposed to be launched coinciding the EDSA anniversary. The GOVT preempted that to happen… MANY people including you guys are angry about it because it did not MATERIALIZE, annd YOU ARE THE MORE ANGRY with the GOVERNMENT…. CGE kayo… away kayo ng ayaw… total papunta na yata ako sa NEW ZEALAND soon….hopefully… and build my life there… joke lang, but if it happens, God willing… I can be more FILIPINO in a foreign land that RESPECTS their leaders.. with MORE RESPONSIBLE and DISCIPLINED CITIZENS… yan kulang DITO, walang disiplina… TAYO lahat….including the president, IKAW at AKO… kaya, magbago tayo… not just GLORIA, tayo lahat….RIGHT????
scud_1975
February 26th, 2006 at 10:51 am
I believe the Filipinos today are more intelligent than before..di na natin kailangan pilitin sumama sa pinaglalaban ng iba jan kung tlagang nakikita nilang may magiging pagbabago. The question is so simple, SINO ANG IPAPALIT NINYO KUNG MAPATANGGAL SI ARROYO? no more yada yadas and blah blahs..if you have a better alternative then bring it on! pero kung wala naman kayo matinong ipapalit maghintay na lang kayo hanggang 2010.
pare pareho lang tayong may tig-iisang balota.
mascarinasfm
February 26th, 2006 at 10:54 am
POINT TO PONDER??? Why AM I GONNA BE afraid of? I’m not doing anything that destabilizes the STATE… SONE or not,, Life’s normal to me…THOSE who are afraid are those who have sinister plans…why worry so much about things that don’t happen yet. Except if you are included in the people who plans that TRG, you have reasons to be afraid… but the institution of the state is still functioning, SC is still there, CONGRESS is still there… I am going to change my stance if GLORIA abolished every institutions we have… That’s what I mentioned earlier… All things said are just Speculation and are going to be blown up bigger by MEDIA… who happens to be our democratic watchdog (supposedly)… BUT… WE SHOULD REMEMBER that DEMOCRACY is not all albout FREE PRESS and freedom of expression. That is the error that we commit.. WE EQUATE DEMOCRACY with FRee for ALL PRESS FREEDOM…and Freedom of expression whatever the cost.. AGain… I ask, HOW about RESPONSIBILITY and DISCIPLINE??? Democracy cannot thrive in a society of irresponsible and undisciplined citizenry who loved to focus their attention and energy in negative and sensational things and event covered and blown up by irresponsible PRESS in the name of press freedom and democracy…. MUCH like what we have today….NO wonder after 20 years of EDSA, we are still at the bottom among ASEAN country… 20 years would have been more than enough to make this country ecomically great…like what CHILE did. But let me make it clear again… that we are part of the blame… all of us…
luzviminda
February 26th, 2006 at 11:01 am
To Mascarinasfm:
Sabi mo…
“total papunta na yata ako sa NEW ZEALAND soon….hopefully… and build my life there…”
Sa iyon na nanggaling, ibig sabihin you have NO LIFE HERE, meaning your life here is BAD.
Kaya nga kami na kumokontra kay Arroyo eh…HOPING TO MAKE LIFE BEAUTIFUL HERE!!!
GO AHEAD, Mas mabuti pa ngang duon ka na lang sa New Zealand. Palagay ko hindi ka na kailangan dito sa Pinas. Payo ko, magbaon ka ng call cards kasi baka ma-homesick ka! Mas marami ang baka duon kesa sa tao! At palagay ko duon ka talaga nababagay!!!
Shall I say, GUDLAK na lang sa iyo!!!
scud_1975
February 26th, 2006 at 11:02 am
i agree with you miscarinasfm..that we are part of the blame..ALL OF US..
now, sino pa dito handang umamin na parte rin sila ng problema.. please stand up. What i know is, only the oppositions are claiming that they are on the GOOD side..and they have the TRUTH, etc. etc. Ngayon kung sino man sumalungat sa mga prinsipyo nila sila yung mga lumalabas na kontrabida or, to quote msbayani, they are lost with the true implications of the political crisis gripping the nation.
Go ahead..be righteous.
ms. bayani
February 26th, 2006 at 11:09 am
well….good luck to all filipinos who chose to try their luck to progressive countries. i know you’ll do well and will be able to improve your lot compare here in the phils. it’s your prerogative and right to do so..and in doing so, i hope you’ll realize the BIG difference of what morality, social justice, equality and peace truly means.
and for US who could see through the PRETENSIONS and PROPAGANDA of the VICIOUS ENEMIES….LET’S CONTINUE TO RESIST THEM, EXPOSE THEM FOR WHAT THEY TRULY ARE AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR CRIMES.
This is not about someone INAAPI…THIS IS A FIGHT TO WHAT IS THE UNIVERSAL AND ACCEPTABLE MEASURE OF RIGHT AND WRONG, OF GOOD AND EVIL….yes….this is also about dreaming….a dream for our country the PHILIPPINES to finally have lasting peace and prosperity because that is where we rightfully belong as manifested with the brilliance of our talents, 8 million OFWs in different fields….respected in decent societies…
kaya nga WE ARE RESISTING BECAUSE WE REFUSE TO ACCEPT THAT WE ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM…AS ORDINARY CITIZENS WE DO OUR PART IN NATION-BUILDING AND WE ARE NOT CORRUPT, THIEVING AND SHAMELESS LIKE THEM….arroyo is not the leader to lead us there…she already lost the moral high ground….progressive countries are able to be what they are today because their society is anchored on justice, peace, morality and equality.
ms. bayani
February 26th, 2006 at 11:28 am
THIS IS ALSO NOT ABOUT SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS NOR PONTIFICATING….this is about correcting the distortions in our moral values and elemental belief in the triumph of right from wrong. actually, the solution for the poltical crisis should have been simple:
1) ARROYO SHOULD RESIGN OR,
2) IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO PROSPER IN ORDER FOR HER TO VINDICATE HERSELF
HINDI KAMI ANG NANGGUGULO, it is them who have been trying to muddle the issue…..as i said, THE ENEMIES ARE VICIOUS, HINDI PA SILA MAKUNTENTO SA BILYON-BILYONG PISONG NAWALA SA KABAN NG BAYAN….THEY WOULD EVEN WANT TO PERPETUATE THEMSELVES IN POWER…..ANCHORED ON MORAL DISTORTIONS. INCLUDED ARE THE POLTICIANS ON PAST REGIMES…but i guess…we should learn our lessons really well now….and do not allow these crocodiles to come back again…we KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
LadyL
February 26th, 2006 at 11:30 am
The biggest question is why are Filipinos thriving overseas like here in the United States? Why do Filipinos have discipline here and are law abiding citizens? Dahil dito may rules and laws that we have to follow. If you don’t follow their rules and laws here, then you’ll have to pay the consequences for your actions. Nobody is above the law here including the President of the Country. In the Philippines, the one who is on top of the chain is the one who breaks the rules and the laws. Siyempre nakikita nila na corrupt si Sir or si Ma’am or walang disiplina ang mga ito so why not follow the leader. You lead by example!
scud_1975
February 26th, 2006 at 11:34 am
thats good sa inyo na rin nanggaling..THAT YOU REFUSE TO ACCEPT THAT YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM. Now, you are saying that you are doing your part in nation-buliding..can you tell us how? sa pakikibaka ba ? sa pagsama sa ba rally?
and who is your choice for a new leader? at pano kung di rin nya mapaangat ang kabuhayan ng mga Pilipino? punta na nman tayo sa EDSA para sa People Power?
As Ordinary Citizens para makatulong naman tayo sa bayan kahit konti..pumunta tayo sa City Hall at kumuha ng Cedula..just make it sure tamang buwis ang babayaran natin..di yung cedula na lang dadayain pa!
rego
February 26th, 2006 at 11:43 am
excellent views miscarinasfm! especially about TRGs….
and yes, scud, the oppositon and the media just have to really present their plans to be able to convince the people to tip on their side. But unfortunately all the have are innuendos, They don’t even have to wait for 2010. All they really have to do is to follow the existing process of removing a president. And that is through impeachment. All they really have to do is to substantiate all the allegation they threw or will be throwing at GMA.
Oh yes the first impeachment failed. But in about 4 to 5 months they very well file the next impeachment. Learn the mistake from the failure of the first impeachment and file again. Ang hirap kasi lahat ayaw ng gumamit ng peaceful means gusto lang talaga manggulo….kesyo dinaan daw sa technicality yung first impeachment blah blah kaya ayaw ng mag impeachment. Eh kung na technical man sa Justice comitte level, pwede pa namang bumawi sa plenary voting. Ang kaso, eh yung ibang absent!!!! Kay talo! Tapos isesensationlize ng media yung technicality sa Justice comitte level, hindi yung mga absent sa plenary voting, I even heard Alecks himself saying this. Unbelievable!
Etong is Ninez naman. My god nakalimutan ko n halos ang pangalan nya. Kung hindi pa nag state of emergency I woudl have believed that I not existent na sya. I was wondering ano ba ang nagawa nya sa bayan? And now she wanted us to be believe that she is be treated as someone really big? Oh please!!! Sabi nga ni Scud “Bring it on” Ninez? Tells us kung ano ba ang magandang plano o nagawa mo na sa bayan sa tinagal tagal mo na sa media?
At least si Gloria, after all the mud that were thrown to her. She was able to keep the economy alive. Eh yung iba dyan…..
Uncle Che
February 26th, 2006 at 11:51 am
Mascarina says that squatters are problem. I don’t think so. The ruling oligarchy that controls things is the problem. As one lola that I know told me this past week, she wishes she could be a suicide bomber and blow herself up with Gloria. This is a sad commentary on the economic and political plight of the Philippines.
Getting rid of GMA will create just as many problems as it solves. Who is going to take her place? Will they offer pipe dreams and empty promises but still look after the interests of the ruling oligarchy? Will removing just Gloria allow all other corrupt elements a reprieve to corrupt another day? Too many problems.
A bottom to top cleaning is in order in the Philippines, removal of ALL corrupt barangay captains, city councilmen, mayors, congressmen and senators, not just the President.
Government is like a pine tree. If you cut off the top, the next highest branches compete to be the next top and everything ends up being just the same, except the lower branches(the poor) increase in size. Chop down the whole tree and start fresh is the only option to clean up the forest.
I hear a lot of economists express fear that the Philippines go the way of Argentina. I pray that the Philippines goes the way of Argentina. 2004 and 2005 economic growth was more than 9% per year. They defaulted on their foreign debt and took actions to help the people rather than the rich. People helped that happen by taking to the streets and demanding change, they went through several presidents in several months until they got Kirchner, a true leader.
LadyL
February 26th, 2006 at 11:55 am
Ms. bayani said,
IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO PROSPER IN ORDER FOR HER TO VINDICATE HERSELF
I agree with you 100%. Any decent leaders and human beings will allow themselves to go through the process just to clear their names, but not Mrs. Arroyo. Her way of clearing herself from the controversies that
hound her bogus presidency is to cover up her tracks through the help of her shameful allies in congress.
Mrs. Arroyo has found power to be too intoxicating. It’s better than her brandy, I guess.
ms. bayani
February 26th, 2006 at 12:03 pm
guess….each of us really have their own faculties discerning what’s really happening in our society. SOME OF US COULD EASILY FALL FOR GOV’T PROPAGANDA.
the issue against arroyo is not really on the context of poltical and economics but morality and accountability….unless she face them fair and square…she will not have peace. IF WE LET HER GET AWAY WITH THAT AND LET THEM PERPETUATE THEMSELVES IN POWER then we might as well give up on the basic values that we hold dear in life….because seeing her day in and day out will only remind us that we allowed a stealing, lying and cheating president to rule over us.
WE HAVE TO BELIEVE IN OURSELVES AND OUR CAPACITY TO HAVE THE KIND OF LIFE AND SOCIETY WE DESERVE. WE SHOULD NOT BE HOSTAGE TO WHAT THESE CORRUPT POLITICIANS WOULD LIKE US TO BELIEVE….THAT WE ARE ALSO LIKE THEM…and just let them have their thing.
ANG SINASABING TUNAY NA PAGBABAGO AY ANG MANIWALA TAYO SA ATING MGA SARILI …NA KAYA NATING MAGKAROON NG LIPUNANG ANGKOP UPANG TAYO’Ý MAPAUNLAD BILANG TAO.
zorros
February 26th, 2006 at 12:11 pm
This is worst than Martial Law…. GMA’s deception is being perpetuated and un-abated right before the eyes of our so called learned, educated, pro-democracy,moralist, anti-marcos, anti-erap….etc. I think it is up for the masa to cleanse and purge the society with its political evil. Let’s try the Guillotine – it may work this time.
rego
February 26th, 2006 at 12:19 pm
ms. bayani said,
February 26, 2006 @ 7:27 am
mascarinasfm…mitams…dakdaksaid…..
you totally do not get it at all…think the three of you are lost with the true implications of the political crisis gripping the nation.
you totally fell to distorted gov’t propaganda and what the traditional politicians would like us to be
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ms bayani,
I believe its you who missing the point!
Just because we want a peaceful, orderly and progessive nation, doesnt mean we we do not condone lying, theivery and corruption. And even blindly obedient to GMA…
What we are trying to tell you guys, is that to if you really have an issue with GMA or with the current government as far as ligitemacy and corruption. Can you not do it peacefully and by just following the law! There is an impeachment, there is Ombudsman, there is the Supreme court there are so many ways to do it peacefully and orderly without disrupting the many lives of other citizens and and disrupting the peace and the the econmy of the nation. And dami nyong alibi to wreak havoc to the country and not follow the law. And we dont buy that!
There are somes issues that were settled well, like the Venable Contract! Loren Legarda’s electoral protest at the PET is ongoing peacefully. Its just too bad that FPJ is dead to do the same. But are other ways?
Talagang pinapipilitan nyop lagi na mag resign yung tao. And you will do everything it takes for her to resign. Eh ayaw mag resign nung tao and she choose to face you in court Gusto nyo kayo na masunod. But look what you got? What are your plans? Sino ang ipapalit nyo? substantiated na ba ang mga allegations nyo kay Gloria? Sometime I am inclined to believe that you have really nothing to prove yoru allegations to her. Thats why you don’t want to follow the law.
Sobra sobra na ang provocations nyo eh. And you are pushing the Lady President to the edge. Now she is fighting back! E di humanda na kayo!
I can’t really blame her if she choose to exercise her options. She has all the right to defend herself. Dahil sobra na rin kayo! I sometime believe that the State of Emergency is long overdue. And it is even admirable that. She delayed it and planned so well her actions.
LadyL
February 26th, 2006 at 12:22 pm
I guess, the difference between the people of Argentina and us Filipinos is that they are not afraid to take a chance for the good and the betterment of their country. They tried and tried until they found somebody who could truly lead them.
Whereas, some of my fellow Filipinos have easily given up and just resigned themselves to the idea there’s nobody better than Gloria. How defeatist we have become as a nation. It is such a shame!
benign0
February 26th, 2006 at 12:44 pm
“We were not cowed during the martial law years. We will not be cowed today.”
Sure you weren’t. No wonder martial law lasted almost 14 years. 😉
So now you say you are not “cowed” today. Any idea how you guys are going to turn that motherhood statement into some RESULTS?
What are the options? Let me guess… another People Power “revolution”?
How innovative.
Remember how much Pinoys congratulated themselves for “inventing” the jeepney back in 1946?
Go figure.
ha ha! 😀
http://www.getrealphilippines.com
coldfeet
February 26th, 2006 at 12:50 pm
then tell me who could lead us better than gloria.. tell us please…
coldfeet
February 26th, 2006 at 12:53 pm
your all good in finding problem.. but none of you have a solution..becoz of that.. you are becoming part of the problem.. and the solution is state of national emergency..so that people like you would be all gone.. and that is a solution.. at least…heheh
tsinoy
February 26th, 2006 at 12:55 pm
SOME OF THE BLOGGERS HERE DO NOT EXPERIENCED TO BE POOR NOR CARE FOR THEM. ONLY THINK OF THEMSELVES AND ALREADY PLANNED THEIR ESCAPE IN THE MOMENT OF CHAOS. THAT REFLECTS THE STATE OF MIND OF MOST PEOPLE BLOGGING HERE, BEING SELFISH.
MERON BANG BLOGGERS NA DUKHA DITO? MERON BANG BUSABOS AT WALANG MAKAIN NA BLOGGERS DITO AT PINILI PA ANG GUMASTOS SA INTERNETCAFE PARA LANG MAKAPAG CHAT SA MGA TAONG MAKASARILI KESA SA KANYANG KALAM NG SIKMURA?
MERON PA NGA IBA DITO AKALA MO ALAM NA ALAM KUNG PAANO MAKARANAS NG KAGUTUMUNAN ANG TOTOO PEKE PALA.
MAGKAIBA TALAGA ANG NAKIKITA NG MGA TAONG NAKATINGIN SA LOOB NG KAHON AT YUNG MGA NAKATINGIN SA LABAS NG KAHON.
IM WORKING HERE IN MAINLAND CHINA FOR THE PAST 15 YEARS AND PERSONALLY SAW THEIR AMAZING PROGRESS. YOU CAN NOT EVEN FIND ANY SQUATERS ON THE ROAD OR EVEN IN THE REMOTEST PLACE IN HERE. EVERYTIME I ARRIVED IN OUR ONLY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, I EXPERIENCED ITS DELAPIDATION YEAR BY YEAR WHILE IN CHINA THEY BUILT OR RENOVATE THEIR AIRPORT EVERY YEAR.
NAKAKALUNGKOT TALAGA AT NAKAKAAWA ANG MGA MAHIHIRAP NA PINOY SA ATIN NA LALO PANG NAGHIHIRAP DAHIL WALANG GUSTONG MAGTAYO NG NEGOSYO DAHIL SA KATIWALIAN SA GOBYERNO LALO NA DUON SA CUSTOMS.
ANO ANG GINAGAWA NG GOBYERNO PARA MAIWASAN ANG KATIWALIAAN SA CUSTOMS? WALA! DAHIL SILA PA ANG PROTEKTOR! SINO ANG TUMATAYO PARA TULIGSAIN ANG MGA ANOMALYA SA GOBYERNO LALO NA SA CUSTOMS? HINDI BA ANG MEDIA?
SANA MAGHIRAP AT MAGHIKAHOS ANG MGA MAKASARILING BLOGGERS DITO PARA MARANASAN NILA KUNG PAANO MAGUTOM AT MAGING BUSABOS.
SANA NGA….
rego
February 26th, 2006 at 12:56 pm
ms. bayani said,
February 26, 2006 @ 12:03 pm
guess….each of us really have their own faculties discerning what’s really happening in our society. SOME OF US COULD EASILY FALL FOR GOV’T PROPAGANDA.
the issue against arroyo is not really on the context of poltical and economics but morality and accountability…
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I believe that this is really the biggest problem of the opposition and those who have issues with Govt and with Pres Arroyo. They can even focus on what is really their issues with the president. Is it political? is it economics? is it moral, or is it all about accountability? I remember the opposition reasoned out that Gloria should resigned instead of be impeached . Because the longer she stays in power, the econmy will collapse. Now Gloria worked hard to improved the economy. Iba na naman ang issue. And this time they vageuly said oh it actually moral and accountability. Geeezzz ano ba talaga ang issue?
Moral and accountability?. But whose set of standard of morality we should follow. Cory’s standards. Erap’s standard, The CCP’s and the Left’s standard? FVR’s standard, the standards of the church? The PCIJs standards, the bloggers standards? And where are the courts for those?
On the other hand is it moral to work for the downfall of an existing government? especially to further your agenda. ( Cory wanted Drilon to be the successor, isn’t Drilon his inaanak , and therefore may tendency na maging tuta nya specially na tinulungan nya na miaupo sa pwesto so may utang na loob na naman si Drilon kay kahit ano na ang hihingin nya tatango na lang? So all her ineterests will be well protected? Is that moral or is that garapalan? so what happened to delicadesa? )
Why not just come up with a solid issue and focus all the energies in substantiating that particular issue . Then file an appropriate charges in court? all present all teh evidenc eto the people????
Ayaw !!!! Kasi gusto talaga ng gulo!
You know if Cory and FVR , Erap and Susan really wanted to help. The people in Leyte really needed an urgent help. Instead of attending leading a rally in Manial , why dont they go to Leyte wher there is help will even touch more lives?…
So the issue is political. The continued grip for power and the greed for it. And the attitude of some citizens to rely so much on the government that the shrewed political players continued to play with that attitude!
rego
February 26th, 2006 at 1:12 pm
Ikaw ba, Tsinoy dukha ka rin?….. Just like you I have been to China, Zhenzhen and Shanghai and indeed their progress is so amazing? But does China have freedom of the press, freedom of speech …. ? Tapos eto ka ngayon nag rerekalamo ka nangyayari sa ang media ng dahil sa state of emergencies. And daming inconsistencies sa mag sinasabi! Would you be kind enough to elaborate your point?
Its good for the media to expose the graft and corruption. That is indeed admirable and noble. But what if media is being controlled by one side and very biased to that side? What if the medie is working to overthrow a an existing government becuas ethey have so many issues against that government. or just becaus etehy believ that the government is eliigitimate? Even without substantiating their issues and bringing it to a proper court? And let the court decide? Media is not the justice system . Their job is to report facts so the exposes should be factual.
rego
February 26th, 2006 at 1:20 pm
LadyL said,
February 26, 2006 @ 11:55 am
I agree with you 100%. Any decent leaders and human beings will allow themselves to go through the process just to clear their names, but not Mrs. Arroyo. Her way of clearing herself from the controversies that
hound her bogus presidency is to cover up her tracks through the help of her shameful allies in congress.
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But please don’t miss out the fact that even if the first impeachment was rejected in the Justice comitte level, the Opposition had the change to overide it in the Plenary voting. The problem is some of them are absent so they failed to get the required number of votes. And that after bragging to the media that they have the required numbers…..
ms. bayani
February 26th, 2006 at 1:21 pm
rego and benigno…
couldn’t much do anything if you’ve already fell for GOV’T PROPAGANDA. but actually….you’re falling right into their antics and psy-war and what they want us to be….just like them….an insecure people…corrupt and will just settle for the crumbs they want to throw our way…WALANG VALUES…MGA UTO-UTO…..PRETENCIOUS….FALLING FOR THE LINE THAT IF NOT ARROYO THEN WHO?
I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD NOT TIRE OF SEARCHING FOR THAT LEADER THAT WILL HAVE THE CAPABILITIES TO DELIVER US FROM WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. because if we give up then we just consign ourselves to oblivion as a country and as a people. WE SHOULD START IT NOW…BY HOLDING ARROYO ACCOUNTABLE FOR HER IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE SO THAT COLLECTIVELY, WE WILL SEND A CHILLING MESSAGE THAT WE WILL NEVER TOLERATE SUCH THINGS.
AS I SAID…WE HAVE VICIOUS ENEMIES OUT THERE WHO HAVE NO COMPUNCTION, DELICADEZA TO DO THE RIGHT THING, PILLAGE THE GOV’T COFFERS AND CONTROL THE RICHNESS OF OUR COUNTRY. GUESS, IT’S PART OF THEIR TACTIC TO MAKE IT APPEAR THEY ARE THE BETTER ALTERNATIVE BUT…THEY ARE NOT.
and as for you BENIGNO…I CONGRATULATE YOU FOR PERFECTING THE ART OF INSULTING, DEMEANING AND MOCKING FILIPINOS. I DARE SAY YOU TAKE MY BREATH AWAY WITH YOUR BRAVADO AND misguided INTELLIGENCE…..
tsinoy
February 26th, 2006 at 1:33 pm
TO REGO AT SA IBA PA,
DATI KAMING DUKHA, KUNG HINDI PUMASOK SA PABRIKA ANG AMA KO, WALA KAMI PAMBILI NG PAGKAIN AT MINSAN TALAGANG TOYO O ASIN LANG ULAM NAMIN.
NAG TATRABAHO AKO SA UMAGA AT NAG AARAL AKO SA GABI KASI HINDI KAMI KAYANG PAG ARALIN NG MGA KAPATID KO SA KAKARAMPOT SA SAHOD NG AMA KO.
NAKATAPOS AKO SA KOLEHEYO DAHIL SA SARILING SIKAP AT DAHIL NA RIN SA GUSTO KONG MAKAAHON KAMI SA KAHIRAPAN.
NAGSIMULA AKO SA PAGIGING TRABAHADOR HANGANG SA MAGING MANEGER AKO NG KOMPANYANG PINAPASUKAN KO. MAY SARILI NA AKONG NEGOSYO NGAYON AT KAHIT HINDI KUMIKITA ANG NEGOSYO KO, PINAGPAPATULOY KO ITO DAHIL NAAWA AKO SA MGA EMPLEYADO KO NA MAWALAN NG TRABAHO AT DUMAGDAG PA SILA SA TAONG NAKA ISTAMBAY LANG SA BAHAY DAHIL TALAGANG WALANG NEGOSYANTENG GUSTONG MAMUHUNAN SA ATING BANSA AT NAG IISIP PA AKO NG IBANG KUMIKITANG NEGOSYO.
HINDI AKO NAWAWALAN NG PAG ASA DAHIL ALAM KO MERON PANG MGA TAONG DESENTE AT GUSTONG MABUHAY NG MARANGAL.
HINDI MEDIA ANG DAHILAN KAYA UMUNLAD AND CHINA KUNG HINDI NAGKAKAISA SILANG PAGLABANAN ANG KAHIRAPAN. HINDI KO SINABING MEDIA ANG MAKASAGOT SA KAHIRAPAN NATIN PERO SILA ANG INSTRUMENTO PARA MABUKSAN ANG MGA ANOMALYANG GUSTONG PAGTAKPAN NG MGA TAONG NAKAUPO SA PWESTO!
HINDI SIGURO MAHIRAP INTINDIHIN ANG SINABI KO DAHIL TAGALOG NA ITO.
KUNG MAG KAKAISA TAYONG LAHAT PARA SA ATING PAG UNLAD DAPAT LANG HINDI YUNG TAONG MAY BAHID NG DUGO AT KASINUNGALINGAN SA KANILANG MGA KAMAY ANG MAMUNO SA ATIN.
coldfeet
February 26th, 2006 at 1:33 pm
i would not go out on the street so that the hungry politician can go back in power once more…think about it.. you all may be right. but removing someone is putting someone in also.. so balik ulit ang masahol pa aso.. baka maging kabinite pa si bayani. heheh….
tsinoy
February 26th, 2006 at 1:34 pm
PARA KAY REGO AT SA IBA PA,
DATI KAMING DUKHA, KUNG HINDI PUMASOK SA PABRIKA ANG AMA KO, WALA KAMI PAMBILI NG PAGKAIN AT MINSAN TALAGANG TOYO O ASIN LANG ULAM NAMIN.
NAG TATRABAHO AKO SA UMAGA AT NAG AARAL AKO SA GABI KASI HINDI KAMI KAYANG PAG ARALIN NG MGA KAPATID KO SA KAKARAMPOT SA SAHOD NG AMA KO.
NAKATAPOS AKO SA KOLEHEYO DAHIL SA SARILING SIKAP AT DAHIL NA RIN SA GUSTO KONG MAKAAHON KAMI SA KAHIRAPAN.
NAGSIMULA AKO SA PAGIGING TRABAHADOR HANGANG SA MAGING MANEGER AKO NG KOMPANYANG PINAPASUKAN KO. MAY SARILI NA AKONG NEGOSYO NGAYON AT KAHIT HINDI KUMIKITA ANG NEGOSYO KO, PINAGPAPATULOY KO ITO DAHIL NAAWA AKO SA MGA EMPLEYADO KO NA MAWALAN NG TRABAHO AT DUMAGDAG PA SILA SA TAONG NAKA ISTAMBAY LANG SA BAHAY DAHIL TALAGANG WALANG NEGOSYANTENG GUSTONG MAMUHUNAN SA ATING BANSA AT NAG IISIP PA AKO NG IBANG KUMIKITANG NEGOSYO.
HINDI AKO NAWAWALAN NG PAG ASA DAHIL ALAM KO MERON PANG MGA TAONG DESENTE AT GUSTONG MABUHAY NG MARANGAL.
HINDI MEDIA ANG DAHILAN KAYA UMUNLAD AND CHINA KUNG HINDI NAGKAKAISA SILANG PAGLABANAN ANG KAHIRAPAN. HINDI KO SINABING MEDIA ANG MAKASAGOT SA KAHIRAPAN NATIN PERO SILA ANG INSTRUMENTO PARA MABUKSAN ANG MGA ANOMALYANG GUSTONG PAGTAKPAN NG MGA TAONG NAKAUPO SA PWESTO!
HINDI SIGURO MAHIRAP INTINDIHIN ANG SINABI KO DAHIL TAGALOG NA ITO.
KUNG MAG KAKAISA TAYONG LAHAT PARA SA ATING PAG UNLAD DAPAT LANG HINDI YUNG TAONG MAY BAHID NG DUGO AT KASINUNGALINGAN SA KANILANG MGA KAMAY ANG MAMUNO SA ATIN.
ms. bayani
February 26th, 2006 at 1:42 pm
okay let’s talk about the ECONOMY…..
haven’t you noticed how gov’t propagandized our economic health? if they want E-VAT to be passed they say that we need additional revenues because gov’t could not deliver services properly if not. now…why is this so? because truth of the matter is GOV’T IS BANKRUPT AND SADDLED WITH DEBT THAT EVEN THE COMBINED PRESIDENCIES OF AQUINO, RAMOS AND ESTRADA COULD NOT EVEN COMPARE TO THE 4 YRS. ARROYO WAS IN OFFICE. but if they are being criticized about the economy…they say we’re on the verge of take-off if not for destabilizers. now….WHAT IS REALLY PROPPING UP THE PESO?…
1) it is the record-breaking remittances sent by OFWs who also record-breakingly were deployed at such magnitude last year. BAKIT KAYA MARAMING UMALIS NA OFW LAST YEAR????
2) the imposition of E-VAT….at the expense or pocket of the common Pilipinos
3) the foreign investors who wants to take a pie of our natural resources….and the general upbeat sentiments for asia
but for whatever perceived gains the economy have…CREDIT SHOULD GO TO PERSEVERING AND ENTERPRISING FILIPINOS THAT DESPITE THE POLITICAL CRISIS they manage to muddle through. AND SURELY WITHOUT THIS POLITICAL CRISIS SHOULD HAVE TAKEN OFF THE WAY IT SHOULD HAVE.
ms. bayani
February 26th, 2006 at 1:50 pm
AS I SAID, WE HAVE CUNNING AND VICIOUS ENEMIES OUT THERE…..AND IF YOU CHOOSE TO BE PARLAYED BY THEM THEN IT’S YOUR CHOICE….. 😛
tsinoy
February 26th, 2006 at 2:08 pm
ITS NOT MY INTENTION TO POST SIMILAR MESSAGE.
IT SEEMS SOMEONE WANTED TO PREVENT AND CENSURE MY MESSAGE OR COLLECT INFORMATION FROM MY LOCATION THAT’S WHY I SEND IT AGAIN AND AGAIN TO MAKE SURE IT WILL BE PUBLISHED.
EVEN LATEST TECHNOLOGY CAN NOT PREVENT MY PERSISTENT DESIRE TO LET KNOW ALL
rego
February 26th, 2006 at 2:10 pm
Ms Bayani,
Exactly you can not really do nothing about our conviction. No matter how you shout at us. This is a forum we exchange opinions and clearly you dont have teh monopoloy opinion on what is right for our country. I am not here to maligned you your convince you. I m just here to express my opinion just like you do….
“WALANG VALUES…MGA UTO-UTO…..PRETENCIOUS….FALLING FOR THE LINE THAT IF NOT ARROYO THEN WHO?”
I don’t know why name calling si very common among the other side. My guess is that when they can no longer reason out well they rather resort to dirty words and shouting… But hey, cant you get it ? its not working.
And why is it that the other side just don’t want to share to us the person that they wanted to replace Arroyo in case they succeed to oust Arroyo? Surprise ba talaga????Dapat ba mysterious???? Anu yun basta sasama na lang tayo sa kanila tapos di natin alam kung magugustuhan ba natin yung ipapalit nila. Eh pano kung corrupt din yan. Isn’t that a waste of mtime? Ay oo nga pla mag peopel power na lang uli! Susme 20 years na nag kaka people power di pa rin na tututo, an hindi talag yan ang sulotion.
Did it ever occur to you that maybe this is the reason why peopel are not joining you cause. becaese you keep on holding so mysteriously that name of that person? And maybe thatis teh reason why the tipping point is not really happening?
I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD NOT TIRE OF SEARCHING FOR THAT LEADER THAT WILL HAVE THE CAPABILITIES TO DELIVER US FROM WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.
wala na naman po akong problema sa continual search for the true leader. I always believe that that is the best way and the right way to go for our country. Wala rin po akong problem kung mattangagl na si Gloria mamaya , o bukas. Hindi lanhg po ako nag sasangaayon sa paraan na ginagawa nyo para mapatalsik si Gloria.
Una kasi, there is a defined process for removing a president in the constitution. And that should be followed. That way we are establishing a proper process of searching a true leader. First through election and then if the person that was elected turned out to be wrong person then removed that person through impeachment. Hindi yung very vague na peopel power which is very suciptible to manipulations. At hindi rin through resignation becuase we all very know that this is the sole prerogative of the person. We can dictate it to her nor pressure here. Our leaders are already immune to teh calls for resignation.
At mas lalong hindi rin po coup d etat. or TRG!
So why don’t we just prosecuet Gloria peacefully and orderly. Substabatiate and present all the evidence in the proper court. That way we show to the whole word that we a have the proper system working in our country. …attract more investors and improve d teh econmy of teh country and the livesof our people ….
WE SHOULD START IT NOW…BY HOLDING ARROYO ACCOUNTABLE FOR HER IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE SO THAT COLLECTIVELY, WE WILL SEND A CHILLING MESSAGE THAT WE WILL NEVER TOLERATE SUCH THINGS.
This is exactly what we wanted, ang problema sinasabi nyo lagi na impeachable ang mga offenses nya. But where is the impeachment case??? If it was rejected in justice committe level? The go to the plenary voting? after plenary voting then go to the Supreme Court. Then if stil it was rejected then file another impeachment after the one year ban is gone….There is really no need to for peopel power just let teh defien process to work!
Ang problema ginululo nyo na ng husto ang proseso! Ginulo nyo na ang husto ang bansa,!! And that gives Gloria the reason to declare State of Emergency.
So who is doing a great dessrevice to the country? Kami o Kayo?
Sana pag isispan mong mabuti ang tanong na to. And please do get back at us!
And hey, you dont have to shout, decent people, as you claimed you are, does’nt need to shout just to present you their points of view. Because it demeaning to themselves not to the peopel they are shouting at….
coldfeet
February 26th, 2006 at 2:20 pm
Sino ba nagsimula ng political crisis? sino ba ang kumagat? may nag-uuto…. may nagpapauuto… ang daling alamin ko sino…
rego
February 26th, 2006 at 2:28 pm
Oh maraming salamat po sa clarification mo, Tsinoy!
Tama ka naintidihan ko po lahat ang sinabi nyo lalo nat tinagalog nyo po. Maraming salamat po uli sa pag paunlak nyo sa aking a katanaungan. Kaya lang po medyo hindi po yata ako sang aayon na ang mag bloggers dito ay di nakatikim ng kahirapan kundi ikaw lang. Medyo mahirap po yat ang ganyang assumption. Wag nyo hong ikakagalit…. ang suhestyon ko po siguro mas magandang ilahad na lang natin ng direstso ang gusto nating ipahiwatig…..
Wala rin naman po akong problem sa buod ng komento mo. Kasi halos mag kapareho po ng gusto ko ring mangyari Nag mag sikap lang tayong lahat at talagang harapin ng maayos ang mga problem natin. Iwasan na sana ang gulo. At malaki ang bahagi at responsbilidad ng media na maharap natin ang maayos ang suliranin ng bansa. Sana lang iwasan na ang sensationalismo.
Ay sana po may oras pa kayo para paunlakan pa yung iba kung katanungan tungkol sa mag abusadong Media. Kung may may oras pa po kayo. Pero kung wla naman. OK lang. Para lang po sana mas maliwang talaga ang stand mo tungkol sa media….
Sige po maraming salamat uli
rego
February 26th, 2006 at 2:35 pm
ms. bayani said,
February 26, 2006 @ 1:42 pm
okay let’s talk about the ECONOMY…..
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So where is the impeachable offense here, ms bayani?
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haven’t you noticed how gov’t propagandized our economic health? if they want E-VAT to be passed they say that we need additional revenues because gov’t could not deliver services properly if not. now…why is this so? because truth of the matter is GOV’T IS BANKRUPT AND SADDLED WITH DEBT THAT EVEN THE COMBINED PRESIDENCIES OF AQUINO, RAMOS AND ESTRADA COULD NOT EVEN COMPARE TO THE 4 YRS. ARROYO WAS IN OFFICE. but if they are being criticized about the economy…they say we’re on the verge of take-off if not for destabilizers. now….WHAT IS REALLY PROPPING UP THE PESO?…
1) it is the record-breaking remittances sent by OFWs who also record-breakingly were deployed at such magnitude last year. BAKIT KAYA MARAMING UMALIS NA OFW LAST YEAR????
2) the imposition of E-VAT….at the expense or pocket of the common Pilipinos
3) the foreign investors who wants to take a pie of our natural resources….and the general upbeat sentiments for asia
but for whatever perceived gains the economy have…CREDIT SHOULD GO TO PERSEVERING AND ENTERPRISING FILIPINOS THAT DESPITE THE POLITICAL CRISIS they manage to muddle through. AND SURELY WITHOUT THIS POLITICAL CRISIS SHOULD HAVE TAKEN OFF THE WAY IT SHOULD HAVE.
rego
February 26th, 2006 at 2:49 pm
ms. bayani said,
February 26, 2006 @ 1:21 pm
AS I SAID…WE HAVE VICIOUS ENEMIES OUT THERE WHO HAVE NO COMPUNCTION, DELICADEZA TO DO THE RIGHT THING,
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Speaking of delicadeza, if person calling other peopel in this forum that doesn’t share her conviction like WALANG VALUES…MGA UTO-UTO…..PRETENCIOUS…( in all cap s pa huh) . a very good sense of delicadeza?
I guess the previous suggestions “to start the change in our selves first for there are no real change in government if the peopel don’t really change first” applies her very well.
So sino nga ang gusto mong ipalit kay Arroyo at ng makilatis na ang kanyang delicadeza????
ms. bayani
February 26th, 2006 at 2:50 pm
rego and coldfeet….
I AM JUST STATING A PERSONAL VIEW…not name-calling nor shouting…just stating it as straightforward as i could with no pretensions for cosmetic words because i believe the situation does not call for them. WALANG NAGBAGO SA BANSA KASI, I REPEAT:
WE HAVE CUNNING AND VICIOUS ENEMIES OUT THERE WHO ARE OUT TO PRESERVE THE STATUS QUO THAT THEY WANT….WHICH IS THAT FOR US TO ACCEPT WHATEVER DISTORTIONS THEY WANT TO HEAP TO US….CORRUPTION, POLITICAL PATRONAGE, LYING, CHEATING AND STEALING. KASI, GINAWA NA NILANG KABUHAYAN…PERO KULANG PA GUSTO PA NILA POWER PA….haven’t you noticed the surnames of most of these people…they date back to marcos time pa pati yung mga nag-betray ng kanilang campaign promises. they keep on coming back and coming back at oo, pati na rin yung mga ibang “oppositionists ngayon”.
haven’t it crossed your mind na pilit nilang binabaling yung sisisi sa mga nag-people power…as if it’s the main reason why this country is having political crisis. GOING BACK, EDSA 1 WAS ABOUT OUSTING MARCOS ( which was just the right thing to do), EDSA 2 was about ousting ERAP ( which was the right thing to do but we did not foresee na yung papalit pala eh ????)….TEKA…SINO BA ANG NAGNAKAW NG KABAN NG BAYAN, LYING ON THEIR CAMPAIGN PROMISES, NAG-CHEAT, ETC.? and, now we’re doing something to address these issue by also voicing out our sentiments.
as i said….IF YOU CHOOSE TO BE PARLAYED BY THEM, THEN IT’S YOUR CHOICE.
ms. bayani
February 26th, 2006 at 3:22 pm
rego….
i am not calling anybody here in particular as WALANG VALUES…MGA UTO-UTO…PRETENTIOUS (right spelling) what i said was:
“you’re falling right into their antics and psy-war and what they want us to be….just like them….an insecure people…corrupt and will just settle for the crumbs they want to throw our way…WALANG VALUES…MGA UTO-UTO…..PRETENCIOUS….”. it is the corrupt politicos i am referring to and what they want us to be. now… if you feel alluded to then it’s probably you really have an issue with right discernment.
and i repeat again:
ANG SINASABING TUNAY NA PAGBABAGO AY ANG MANIWALA TAYO SA ATING MGA SARILI …NA KAYA NATING MAGKAROON NG LIPUNANG ANGKOP UPANG TAYO’Ý MAPAUNLAD BILANG TAO.
and it is not for me to say who is the right president but the Filipino people will… in a clean and honest election supported by proper electoral reforms.
dsaint
February 26th, 2006 at 3:24 pm
I agree Ms. Bayani.
ms. bayani
February 26th, 2006 at 3:32 pm
rego…
i did not say that ARROYO may have committed an impeachable offense on economic issues
tsinoy
February 26th, 2006 at 3:39 pm
PARA LANG PO KAY REGO ITO:
SOME OF THE BLOGGERS HERE DO NOT EXPERIENCED TO BE POOR NOR CARE FOR THEM. ONLY THINK OF THEMSELVES AND ALREADY PLANNED THEIR ESCAPE IN THE MOMENT OF CHAOS. THAT REFLECTS THE STATE OF MIND OF MOST PEOPLE BLOGGING HERE, BEING SELFISH.
AYAN GALING YAN DUON SA PREVIOUS MESSAGE KO. HINDI KO SINABING “MGA” KUNDI “SOME” AT “MOST” BLOGGERS DITO.
READ AGAIN THE CONTENT OF PREVIOUS MESSAGES OF OTHERS BLOGGERS, SOME OF THEM SHOWS THEIR SELFISH INTEREST.
I BELIEVED IN FREEDOM OF EVERYTHING BECAUSE WE ARE BORN TO BE ONE.
HINDI BA MAS MAGANDA KUNG LAHAT TAYO AY NABUBUHAY NG KATULAD NG MGA KATUTUBO NATIN? NABUBUHAY NG TAHIMIK, WALANG INIISIP NA BABAYARIN SA KURYENTE, TELEPONO, INTERNET CONNECTION, TUBIG, CABLE, PAMASAHE, MARANGYANG DAMIT AT MAGARBONG PAMUMUHAY? THEY COME TO THIS WORLD FREE AND THEY LEAVE THIS WORLD FREE. PERO ANU GINAGAWA NG IBA SA ATIN? BINABABOY SILA, PINUPULITIKA, KINUKUTYA, PINAGTATAWANAN AT PINAPAKIALAMAN SA MGA GINAGAWA NILA.
AND FREEDOM COMES WITH GREAT RESPONSIBILITY TO OTHERS AROUND US…
YUNG MEDIA KUNG HINDI TOTOO YUNG PINAGSASABI AT PINAG SUSULAT NILA DIBA MERON TAYONG KORTE NA HUHUSGA SA PINAGGAGAWA NILA? BAKIT KAILANGAN PANG GAMITAN NG PULIS AT MILITAR PARA PAHINTUIN SILA? HINDI BA TOTO ANG PINAGSASABI AT PINAGSUSULAT NILA? O BAKA NAMAN TALAGANG TOTOO AT KAHIT KORTE AY PAPANIGAN SILA AT DYAN TAKOT SI GMA, SA KATOTOHANAN
ms. bayani
February 26th, 2006 at 3:50 pm
i repeat:
WE HAVE TO BELIEVE IN OURSELVES AND OUR CAPACITY TO HAVE THE KIND OF LIFE AND SOCIETY WE DESERVE. WE SHOULD NOT BE HOSTAGE TO WHAT THESE CORRUPT POLITICIANS WOULD LIKE US TO BELIEVE….THAT WE ARE ALSO LIKE THEM…BECAUSE WE ARE NOT….IT IS THEM WHO CREATED AND PROLIFERATED THE CORRUPT STATUS QUO!
tsinoy
February 26th, 2006 at 3:55 pm
SANA MAMULAT NA LAHAT….
MAGKAISA NA LAHAT….
PIGILAN NA NATIN NG MAAGA ANG MGA MILITAR AT PULIS SA KANILANG GINAGAWA NGAYUN AT DAHIL KAPAG NAKATIKIM NA SILA NG POWER, BALIK NA NAMAN ANG MILITARY RULE SA PINAS.
AT BAKIT GUSTONG GUSTO NG MGA MILITAR AT PULIS ITONG POWER? MASARAP ANG POWER, NAKAKA-ADDICT, NAKABALIW, NAKAKAHIBANG.
HINDI PO AKO KONTRA DUON SA MGA MATITINONG PULIS AT MILITAR PERO TINGNAN NA LANG PO NINYO YUNG MGA NAMUMUNO SA INYO? MALINIS BA SILA? MAGANDA BA ANG INTENSION NILA?
HINDI PO BA SILA HIBANG NA AT NALULUNOD NA SA POWER?
ISIPIN PO NUNG MGA MATITINONG PULIS AT MILITAR YUNG KAPAKANAN NG BANSA AT MGA MAMAYAN, HINDI PO YUNG PERSONAL NA INTEREST NG IILAN. SURIIN PO ULIT NATIN YUNG MGA BULOK NA GINAWA O GINAGAWA NUNG MGA LIDER NATIN? DAPAT PO BA SILANG IPAGTANGGOL O ANG MGA ORDINARYONG MGA PINOY?
iyang
February 26th, 2006 at 4:06 pm
censya na po pero HINDE AKO SANGAYON SA MGA PINAG SASABI NYO NA DAPAT SISIHIN ANG ATING SARILI SA NANGYAYARI SA ATING BANSA!!!! at bakit ko naman titignan ang aking sarili ksama ng ibang OFW at mga pinoy na nagsisikap sa ibang bansa at sa pinas para makaahon sa pera at bakit??? kahit ano pang gawing pagsisikap ng bawat pinoy kung ang namumuno ay isang
iyang
February 26th, 2006 at 4:29 pm
MAGNANAKAW AT WALANG KONSENSYA NA PURO SARILI LANG ANG INIISIP ANO SA TINGIN NYO ANG MANGYAYARI SA BAWAT PINAGHIrapan NG PINOY??? WALAAAAAAAA!!!!!! halos nagpapakamatay ka na sa pagsisikap kung puro magnanakaw ang nasa paligid mo sa tingin nyo ba ligtas ang pinaghirapan nyo??? sa tingin nyo may karapatan ang bawat ordinaryong pinoy na baguhin ang sistema ng pilipinas??? walaaaaaaaaaaa!!! anong karapatan meron ang isang ordinaryong pinoy sa pinas??? ang bomoto??? at tapos doktorin ang boto at gawing panalo ang nde naman nanalo??? sino ba ang may karapatan sa pinas??? SYEMPRE ANG MGA NAKAUPO AT MAYAYAMAN!!! SILA LNG AT WALA NG IBA!!!! KALOKOHAN ANG SABIHING TIGNAN ANG ATING SARILI!!!!!! KALOKOHAN TLAGA!!!!! LAHAT NG PAGBABAGO DAPAT MAG UMPISA SA MGA NAKAUPO AT DISIPLINAHIN ANG BAWAT MAMAMAYAN, KUNG NAKIKITA NATIN ANG PAGBABAGO SA KANILA AT SINO NAMANG MATINONG PINOY ANG NDE SASANGAYON NG PAGBABAGO ABER??? SINO BA ANG GUMAWA NG KALOKOHANG EDSA2??? DBA ANG MGA MAYAYAMAN AT MISMO ANG ASAWA NI GLORIA???? NGAYON SILA SILA RIN ANG GUSTO SYANG PABAGSAKIN… NGYN ANG RASON NILA DHIL SA MAHIHIRAP, LINTEK!!!! PURO MAHIHIRAP PERO NDE NMN UMAASENSO ANG MAHIHIRAP, PURO INSTANT NOODLES AT BIGAS ANG BINIBIGAY!!!!!!!!!! TURUAN NYO SILANG MAG TRABAHO AT BIGYAN NG TRABAHO YAN ANG DAPAT!!!!!! PURO PAGSISIKAP ANG BAWAT PINOY PURO KAWATAN NAMAN ANG NANGYAYARI SATING BANSA!!!! KAYA KAHIT MAGPAKAMATAY MAN AKO NG PAGSISIKAP KUNG PLAGE NAMAN AKO NANAKAWAN NG MGA MAY KAPANGYARIHANG NAKAPALIGID SATIN ALA RING WENTA ANG PAGSISIKAP KO!!!!! I WISH BUMALIGTAD ANG PANGYAYARI SATING BANSA..ANG LAHAT NG NAGSISIKAP AT MAHIHIRAP ANG SYANG YUMAMAN AT LAHAT NG MAYAYAMN AT NAKAUPO LALO NA PAMILYA NI GLORIA ANG MAG TNT AT OFW SA IBANG BANSA!!!!!!! TIGNAN LANG NATIN KUNG MAKAKAYA NILA ANG LAHAT NG PAGHIHIRAP!!!! AT PLEASEEEEEE LANG NAIIRITA AKO SA BAWAT NAMUMUNO LALO NA C GLORIA SA PAGSASABI NA KMI AY NAIINTINDIHAN NILA AT ALAM ANG AMING SITWASYON!!!!!! MGA EWAN NA LANG KUNG ANO PA ANG PEDE KUNG ITAWAG SANYO!!!! WALA NI ISA MAN ANG PEDE MAGSALITA NA KMI AY NAIINTINDIHAN AT ALAM ANG AMING SITWASYON!!!! ALA NI ISA MAN ANG PEDE MAGSABI KUNG ANO ANG AMING PAGHIHIRAP MAPALAYO SAMING PAMILYA AT TIIISIN LAHAT NG PAGHIHIRAP SA IBANG BANSA!!!!!!!!! WALA WALAAAAAAAA!!!!! WALA AKONG DPAT TIGNAN SAKIN SARILI!!! ANG DAPAT MAGBAGO AT PATALSIKIN SA PWESTO AY SI GLORIA KSAMA NG PAMLIYA NYA AT MGA ARMY NYA N BINUBUSOG NYA PRA SA SURVIVAL NYA SA PWESTO!!!!! DPAT MAGDUSA SILA AT PAHIRAPAN!!!! DPAT BUMALIGTAD NA ANG PANAHON AT SILA NAMAN ANG NAKAWAN!!!!! DPAT ILUBOG SILA SA KUMUKULONG TUBIG AT SA BAWAT PINOY NA NINAKAWAN NILA BUHUSAN SILA NG CLOROXXXXX , DAHIL SA AKIN LANG NDE NILA MAIBABALIK ANG BAWAT PANAHONG NAGHIHIRAP AKO DITO AT MALAYO SAKING PAMILYA AT SINASAKIT TLAGA NG DAMDAMIN KO KUNG BAKIT KELANGAN LUMAYO AKO SA PAMILYA KO AT LALO NA NGYN NA NAPAKALIIT NG DOLLARS AT NDE NAMAN NAGBABAGO ANG PRESYO NG BILIHIN LALO PANG TUMATAAS!!!!!!!! KYA WALA AKONG DAPAT TIGNAN SAKIN SARILI AT NANINIWALA AKO SA KAKAYAHAN NG PINOY, HINDI TAMAD ANG PINOY!!!!!!! NAGKATAON LANG NA MALAS TAU SA MGA NAMUMUNO SATING BANSA KAYA PATULOY ANG ATING PAGHIHIRAP…………. SALAMAT PO!!!!!
rego
February 26th, 2006 at 4:56 pm
Alam mo tsinoy, wla naman talagang tayong malaking pag tatalunan eh malaking pagtatalunan… medyo koti lang ang hindi ko pagsangayon eh. So sana wag mong masamain yung mga pangurirat ko sa yo huh.
Sabi mo:
“YUNG MEDIA KUNG HINDI TOTOO YUNG PINAGSASABI AT PINAG SUSULAT NILA DIBA MERON TAYONG KORTE NA HUHUSGA SA PINAGGAGAWA NILA? BAKIT KAILANGAN PANG GAMITAN NG PULIS AT MILITAR PARA PAHINTUIN SILA? HINDI BA TOTO ANG PINAGSASABI AT PINAGSUSULAT NILA? O BAKA NAMAN TALAGANG TOTOO AT KAHIT KORTE AY PAPANIGAN SILA AT DYAN TAKOT SI GMA, SA KATOTOHANAN”.
O di nga ba ang military ay component ng pagpapataw ng hustisya. Kung niraid man yung media ng military. Di kaya paraan yun na pagkalap ng ebidensya par nga dalhin sa korte ang lahat. O sige lets take the case of Daily Tribune. So ni raid ng military, Then after that what. Pinatay ba si Ninez Olivares or sino mang mga staffer nya. Kung wla talag syang kasalanan din magpaliwanag lang sya ng maayos sa military. O di ba malay pa naman sya.
Si professor Randy David, inaresto nga sya pero pinakwalan din naman dahil wala rin nag kasing mailnaw na kaso.
There is a very good justification for such a military action. And that is because of the declaration of the state of emergency. Right now the legal opinion as to teh validaity of teh decalartion varies from one leal expert to another…
Di pa nararapat lang na ichallenge na sa Supreme Court. At pwedeng pwed epong gawin eto ng maayos. Hindi na po kailangan is sensationalized ng media. All the have to do si to rpeotr that thsi sos in so went to supreme court to fiel a petition about teh leaglity of the the declaration. Then we will wait for teh action of the supreme court. Pwed sigurong tutukan ang supreme court para mag desisyon kaagad.
But look at what the media people are doing. Ay inaresto ako!!! ay teh governement is after me. When in reality teh governement jsut wanted to investigate if she is connected toa a destabilzation plot….
Yang si Ninez, I believe sangkatutak na ang sinulat nyan laban sa gobyerno. Maraming buwan na rin nyang pinakakaperahan ang pag attake sa gobyerno Walang ginawang action ang gobyerno at inayaan lang sya. Ngayon lang sya innimbistahigahan At ngayon papalbasin na naman na ang gobyerno ang masama????.
I dont how much you about China. Walang basta basta nakakagawa ng ganyan sa China. Kaya ang gobyerno focused na sila sa pagtatrabaho at pag papaunlad ng bansa. Time is not waste don abusive media….
rego
February 26th, 2006 at 5:01 pm
Ok then good, for a s long as you stay on what you mean below then Im OK with it. Just keep continue expressing your views cooly alright!
rego….
i am not calling anybody here in particular as WALANG VALUES…MGA UTO-UTO…PRETENTIOUS (right spelling) what i said was:
“you’re falling right into their antics and psy-war and what they want us to be….just like them….an insecure people…corrupt and will just settle for the crumbs they want to throw our way…WALANG VALUES…MGA UTO-UTO…..PRETENCIOUS….”. it is the corrupt politicos i am referring to and what they want us to be. now… if you feel alluded to then it’s probably you really have an issue with right discernment.
and i repeat again:
ANG SINASABING TUNAY NA PAGBABAGO AY ANG MANIWALA TAYO SA ATING MGA SARILI …NA KAYA NATING MAGKAROON NG LIPUNANG ANGKOP UPANG TAYO’Ý MAPAUNLAD BILANG TAO.
and it is not for me to say who is the right president but the Filipino people will… in a clean and honest election supported by proper electoral reforms
rego
February 26th, 2006 at 5:08 pm
On the other hand ms bayani…
When you said “you’re falling right into their antics and psy-war” are you 100% about this or you are just guessing? And what is your basis for such a conclusive statement?
rego
February 26th, 2006 at 5:17 pm
Ms Bayani, Im very much aware of what you said below, Im just not sure about the others. So what is really is your point????Magrarally at mag rally tayo, mag people power? ??? What is thos ebig owrd you have been writing all about? Sabi mo diretsa ka at ayw mo ng mga commetics word. Would you be kind to just state you point in a very direct manner . Kung pwed lang naman at kung may oras ka pa?
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“WE HAVE CUNNING AND VICIOUS ENEMIES OUT THERE WHO ARE OUT TO PRESERVE THE STATUS QUO THAT THEY WANT….WHICH IS THAT FOR US TO ACCEPT WHATEVER DISTORTIONS THEY WANT TO HEAP TO US….CORRUPTION, POLITICAL PATRONAGE, LYING, CHEATING AND STEALING. KASI, GINAWA NA NILANG KABUHAYAN…PERO KULANG PA GUSTO PA NILA POWER PA….haven’t you noticed the surnames of most of these people…they date back to marcos time pa pati yung mga nag-betray ng kanilang campaign promises. they keep on coming back and coming back at oo, pati na rin yung mga ibang “oppositionists ngayon”.
rego
February 26th, 2006 at 5:27 pm
ms. bayani said,
February 26, 2006 @ 2:50 pm
haven’t it crossed your mind na pilit nilang binabaling yung sisisi sa mga nag-people power…
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Im sorry Ms Bayani, but I dont see it that way. Woudl you just be specific kung sino yung tintukoy mo at kung papano nila sinisisi ang peopel power. Any article or news item that you can refer me to?. I mean I have some idea but I am not really sure kung yun talga ang tinutukoy mo. Para lang di maiwasan ang di pagagaunawaan , siguro mas magandang i clarify muna bago ako mag react. alrighty!
rego
February 26th, 2006 at 5:36 pm
ms. bayani said,
February 26, 2006 @ 3:32 pm
rego…
i did not say that ARROYO may have committed an impeachable offense on economic issues
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alright, so what is you point? thats why it was a question ms bayani. So what is the point of talking about economy here, about the eVAT, about OFWs. So what you wanted to do? Poepl power? Impeachment?, Maintain status qou ( let gloria finish her term while whiel eth peopel are working with eth electoral reforms, and other reforms or you just want her out right away be it legal, extra constitutional or non consitutional. Dio sabi mo ayw mo ng cosmetic words. That s woul be very good. Just state it directly in simple sentences then.
ms. bayani
February 26th, 2006 at 5:38 pm
rego…..
i refuse to explain myself as you would like me too…..trying to question every word that i write instead of discerning the whole context…finding every debatable item that you would like to see as if those were the essence of what i’m trying to say….i don’t have to prove myself all the time…very elementary …let’s just let the others who read this site discern the context of what both of us are saying…and let them decide who they’ll believe in and who is nearer the truth. anyway…all the information are out there…internet….local/foreign media, etc.THEN YOU GO ABOUT YOUR LIFE AND CARRY THE TRUTH YOU WANT TO BELIEVE IN…..and see if you could carry all of them all the way.
rego
February 26th, 2006 at 6:02 pm
Naku, Iyang , naka all caps ka na par bang galit ng galit ka. Una mong dapat gawing is to calm yourself down baka atakehin ka sa puso nyan….at kung ano pang masamang mangyari sa kalusugan mo..
Gusto kung himayin yung ibang mga sinabi mo…..
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iyang said,
February 26, 2006 @ 4:29 pm
halos nagpapakamatay ka na sa pagsisikap kung puro magnanakaw ang nasa paligid mo sa tingin nyo ba ligtas ang pinaghirapan nyo???
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ano po ang ibig sabihin nyo nito, na kahit magtaraboh ka at magsipag wlang mag yayaring sa inyo? Yung mag kinita nyo ho pa directang ninanakaw sayo ng gobyerno?
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sa tingin nyo may karapatan ang bawat ordinaryong pinoy na baguhin ang sistema ng pilipinas??? walaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
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hindi namanyata totoo eto Iyang, kasi kung gusto talag nating baguhain ang sistema kaya yan . eh kung nappalis nag natn is Marcos na parang impossibleng mangyari noon eh. Nagawa na natin noon na magkaisa eh at nakalis nag tayo kay Marcos di ba????
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anong karapatan meron ang isang ordinaryong pinoy sa pinas??? ang bomoto??? at tapos doktorin ang boto at gawing panalo ang nde naman nanalo??? sino ba ang may karapatan sa pinas???
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Naku iyang kung may ebidensya ka na maayos na binago ng ang boto mo. Dapat punat ka kaagad sa korte. Yan po ang isa sa mag pagbago na sinasuggest. Dapat ho lagyan ng action yung mag sinasabi. Kung nadaya ka sa botohan punta na kaagad sa korte. Lapatan na ho natin ng maayso na aksyon ang mag reklamo natin…
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sino ba ang may karapatan sa pinas???
SYEMPRE ANG MGA NAKAUPO AT MAYAYAMAN!!! SILA LNG AT WALA NG IBA!!!! KALOKOHAN ANG SABIHING TIGNAN ANG ATING SARILI!!!!!! KALOKOHAN TaLAGA!!!!!LAHAT NG PAGBABAGO DAPAT MAG UMPISA SA MGA NAKAUPO AT DISIPLINAHIN ANG BAWAT MAMAMAYAN, KUNG NAKIKITA NATIN ANG PAGBABAGO SA KANILA AT SINO NAMANG MATINONG PINOY ANG NDE SASANGAYON NG PAGBABAGO ABER???
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lahat ho tayo may karapatan sa sa Pinas, at dapat ho nating hawakan ng maayos ang karapatan na tin . Hindi po tootoo na ang mayaman lang at naakupo lang ang may karapatan. Hino po totoo eto at palagy ko alam mo ang totoo….
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SINO BA ANG GUMAWA NG KALOKOHANG EDSA2??? DBA ANG MGA MAYAYAMAN AT MISMO ANG ASAWA NI GLORIA???? NGAYON SILA SILA RIN ANG GUSTO SYANG PABAGSAKIN…
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NGYN ANG RASON NILA DHIL SA MAHIHIRAP, LINTEK!!!! PURO MAHIHIRAP PERO NDE NMN UMAASENSO ANG MAHIHIRAP, PURO INSTANT NOODLES AT BIGAS ANG BINIBIGAY!!!!!!!!!! TURUAN NYO SILANG MAG TRABAHO AT BIGYAN NG TRABAHO YAN ANG DAPAT!!!!!!
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pag binabanggit na ho ng mag politco ang mahihirap, ay naku wag nyo na hong patulan. nambbobola na lang ho ang mga yan.
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PURO PAGSISIKAP ANG BAWAT PINOY PURO KAWATAN NAMAN ANG NANGYAYARI SATING BANSA!!!! KAYA KAHIT MAGPAKAMATAY MAN AKO NG PAGSISIKAP KUNG PLAGE NAMAN AKO NANAKAWAN NG MGA MAY KAPANGYARIHANG NAKAPALIGID SATIN ALA RING WENTA ANG PAGSISIKAP KO!!!!! I WISH BUMALIGTAD ANG PANGYAYARI SATING BANSA..ANG LAHAT NG NAGSISIKAP AT MAHIHIRAP ANG SYANG YUMAMAN AT LAHAT NG MAYAYAMN AT NAKAUPO LALO NA PAMILYA NI GLORIA ANG MAG TNT AT OFW SA IBANG BANSA!!!!!!! TIGNAN LANG NATIN KUNG MAKAKAYA NILA ANG LAHAT NG PAGHIHIRAP!!!! AT PLEASEEEEEE LANG NAIIRITA AKO SA BAWAT NAMUMUNO LALO NA C GLORIA SA PAGSASABI NA KMI AY NAIINTINDIHAN NILA AT ALAM ANG AMING SITWASYON!!!!!! MGA EWAN NA LANG KUNG ANO PA ANG PEDE KUNG ITAWAG SANYO!!!! WALA NI ISA MAN ANG PEDE MAGSALITA NA KMI AY NAIINTINDIHAN AT ALAM ANG AMING SITWASYON!!!! ALA NI ISA MAN ANG PEDE MAGSABI KUNG ANO ANG AMING PAGHIHIRAP MAPALAYO SAMING PAMILYA AT TIIISIN LAHAT NG PAGHIHIRAP SA IBANG BANSA!!!!!!!!! WALA WALAAAAAAAA!!!!! WALA AKONG DPAT TIGNAN SAKIN SARILI!!! ANG DAPAT MAGBAGO AT PATALSIKIN SA PWESTO AY SI GLORIA KSAMA NG PAMLIYA NYA AT MGA ARMY NYA N BINUBUSOG NYA PRA SA SURVIVAL NYA SA PWESTO!!!!! DPAT MAGDUSA SILA AT PAHIRAPAN!!!! DPAT BUMALIGTAD NA ANG PANAHON AT SILA NAMAN ANG NAKAWAN!!!!! DPAT ILUBOG SILA SA KUMUKULONG TUBIG AT SA BAWAT PINOY NA NINAKAWAN NILA BUHUSAN SILA NG CLOROXXXXX , DAHIL SA AKIN LANG NDE NILA MAIBABALIK ANG BAWAT PANAHONG NAGHIHIRAP AKO DITO AT MALAYO SAKING PAMILYA AT SINASAKIT TLAGA NG DAMDAMIN KO KUNG BAKIT KELANGAN LUMAYO AKO SA PAMILYA KO AT LALO NA NGYN NA NAPAKALIIT NG DOLLARS AT NDE NAMAN NAGBABAGO ANG PRESYO NG BILIHIN LALO PANG TUMATAAS!!!!!!!! KYA WALA AKONG DAPAT TIGNAN SAKIN SARILI AT NANINIWALA AKO SA KAKAYAHAN NG PINOY, HINDI TAMAD ANG PINOY!!!!!!! NAGKATAON LANG NA MALAS TAU SA MGA NAMUMUNO SATING BANSA KAYA PATULOY ANG ATING PAGHIHIRAP…………. SALAMAT PO!!!!!
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sa ayaw at sa gusto mo Iyang kailangan mo pa ring tingnan ang sarili, magtrabaho at ifocus ang lahat sa trabaho. wag na hong pansisnin ang mga politico. matrabaho na lang nag maayos para may makain tayo at kung anu man ang mangyari sa Pinas. May pera ho kayo kahit papano…..
iyang
February 26th, 2006 at 6:43 pm
rego sagutin kita ha… oo galit na galit ako sating pamahalaan , e2 ang sagot ko sau.. no.1, opkors nde dretso sa pamahalaan ang kinikita ko at pinag susumikapan pero malaki ang epekto nito sa bawat pinoy at sa bawat pinaghirapan ko at sa lahat ng nagsusumikap, bakit??? sating ekonomiya, patuloy na nagmamahal ang bilihin, kuryente, tuition fee at lahat lahat na at cno ba ang ang sa tingin mo ang humahawak ng ating ekonomiya?? at kung bakit walang tigil ang pagmahal ng bawat pangangailangan natin?? ordinaryong tao ba or ung mga namumuno??.. no2., sa botohan, ano ba ang karapatan ko dalhin sa korte ang ebidensya na cnasabe mo?? sa tingin mo papansinin nila ako? sa tingin mo meron ako pera pambayad sa korte? kung cla loren legarda at susa rocess nahaharang sa korte na may pera pa, ako pa kaya na isang ordinaryong tao lang??? at abt sa mayayaman, totoo nmn cla lang ang may boses sa pinas ahh, pag botohan lang nagiging importante ang mahihirap, kelan pa naging powerful ang isang mahirap sa pinas?? may kilala ka ba rego??? no.3, wal aakong plano kay GMA , tulad nga ng cnasabe ko, sya ang nasa pwesto at nsa kapangyarihan, wala akong pede gawin sa kanya, gustuhin ko man pero wal akong magagawa, c GOD na ang bahala sa kanya..kung ung mga kaaway nya sa politiko alang magawa ako pa kaya??? hehehehehe!!!! no.4, opkors nde ako naniniwala isa man sa kanila, mga dakdak ng dakdak , alang aksyon!!!! mga sinungaling at mapag samantala at magnanakaw!!!! no.5., wala akong dpat tignan sa sarili ko rego, ginawa ko ang abot ng makakaya ko at khit nde ko maabot ginagawa ko pa rin para magsikap pra saking pamilya at sana sating bansa, kya nga ako nag OFW pra mabuhay ko pamilya ko at khit papano mka help sa pinas pero iba pa rin ang nangyayari, nde ko rin focus ang sarili ko sa mga politicians, nasasaktan lng ako sa pangyayari, mahal ko ang pinas at sa tuwing may nababalitaan ako na nde maganda inaamin ko nasasaktan ako , khit saang mang bansa ako mkapunta, mahal ko pa rin ang pinas at patuloy ako magmamahal at masasaktan kung patuloy na babagsak ang ating bansa dahil sa mga masasamang tao na namumuno… amen!!!! and rego, hehehehe btw, bata pako, wag moko ho ka ng ho, hehehehe joke!!!
scud_1975
February 26th, 2006 at 6:46 pm
Suma tutal na lang para matapos ang mga debatihan na to..SINO NMAN ANG IPAPALIT NYO KAY GLORIA ? siguro naman sa tagal nyo nang isinisigaw na patalsikin si GMA may naiisip na kayong ipalit.
yun lang ang dapat nating pag usapan..pag napatalsik si GMA, sino ipapalit nyo?
mascarinasfm
February 26th, 2006 at 8:34 pm
The BIG difference bewtween the Philippines and ARGENTINA is that they don’t have power hungry opposition, coup plotters and misguided militant groups wanting to do everything just to get rid of a president they dont like . They don’t have unholy alliance of ‘righteous’ and suspicious people who have temporarily sidelined their agenda and ideologies just to form an alliance for one cause… to get rid of a president….The president of Argentina resigned after chaos when they defaulted their debt… I guess that should be the scenario that we create for GMA to resign… LET’s ALL GET INTO A CHAOTIC SITUATION… that’s what the opposition and the righteous people out there wanted to create. Their pride is just HURT because after everythinf they did, GMA still clings to power. NANGIGIGIL na sila kasi, and it’s a very Filipino character, not to accept DEFEAT…
mascarinasfm
February 26th, 2006 at 9:08 pm
tama ka yata Scud, matagal na rin nilang gusto palitan si Gloria… so, sno na ang kapalit??? Huwag na nating gayahin ang Argentina na papalit palit, experimento ng Presidente… ngayon, dpat my aka line-up ng choices…
zorros
February 26th, 2006 at 9:38 pm
I think when the Filipinos allowed GLOria and the Supreme Court distort the Philppine Costitution to legitimize her ascendancy and to unseat a democratically elected president is where the trouble begun. Declaring Martial Law wihtout even uttering and using the word “Martial Law” is easy under this government by using other legalese word and excrutiatingly stretching the definition of words within the constitution.
The Supreme Court managed to invent “constructive resignation” as a basis for legitimizing GMA’s succession. Now, expect a constructive pre-emptive de-estabilizer as a tool to imprison all those who dissent against the government.
And to top it all, GMA can create a pre-emptive constructive Coup Me scenario just to legitimize the harassment to the opposition and to other dissenters.
zorros
February 26th, 2006 at 9:40 pm
Yup, Nothing beats the COUP Me scenario as an antics to launch a pre-emptive strike against GMAs enemy.
mascarinasfm
February 26th, 2006 at 9:43 pm
For Tsinoy… Alam mo naman siguro ang history ng CHina… Mas malala pa yan kay sa mga nagawa na kasamaan ni GMA… Alam mo ba ang ginawa ng China govt noong 1994 sa Tiananmen Square (tama ba spelling ko)… Pinatay lang naman nila ang maga taong nagrarally at naghahangad makamit ang Demokrasya… saan na ba mga lider nila,,, pinatay na lahat…GMA’s govt is very poor in comparison in that aspect… But What made CHina progress???? Thay have STABILITY, PEACE and ORDER. There are no protests/rallies. That’s why Investors are scrambling to put up businesses there… Mas magaling pa nga tayo sa mga intsik doon… and dont tell me their government is not corrupt… I have co-workers presently stationed there. They are even more corrup than our govt. Di nga lang nababalita kasi wala ngang freedom of Press… Give our country at least 5 years of stability… I’m sure you and I need not go out abroad to work, i’m there will be plenty of that here… By the way,,, dont assume that bloggers here hind nakaranas ng paghihirap. Tulad mo mahirap din parents ko… nakapagaral nga lang ako at nakapagtrabaho sa isang local na multinational company… Ang maga tulad mo at tulad ko na rin ang mga dapat gayahin ng mga Filipino. Magsumikap at hindi iaasa lahat sa gobyrno. Puro kasi tayo blame sa iba, sa gobyerno.
mascarinasfm
February 26th, 2006 at 10:26 pm
for ms bayani…
couldn’t much do anything if you’ve already fell for GOV’T PROPAGANDA. but actually….you’re falling right into their antics and psy-war…
Well by your choice of words.. PROPAGANDA… psy-war… sounds family to me… You just didn’t fell into the PROPAGANDA but you are one of them… it’s just obvious… I’ve nothing really personal against people of your kind. I just wish you are more grounded… hey, it’s no longer the martial era… times has changed already… hope people will be reasonbale enough these days..and not just anti- for the sake of it.
Mainly Mita » A Message From an Ordinary, Disgruntled Filipino
February 26th, 2006 at 11:34 pm
[…] I’m posting something written by someone calling himself mascarinasfm, an ordinary, disgruntled Filipino like myself. It was posted as a comment in the popular, Philippine Center of Investigatvie Journalism blog. The comment can be found in this thread. […]
penpenpen88
February 26th, 2006 at 11:48 pm
.NO wonder after 20 years of EDSA, we are still at the bottom among ASEAN country…
— we are at the bottom because we just dont past what is in front of us.. in short we are a reactive kind of people.. passive masyado.. nakikialam lang if direkta tayong naapekto and generally tamad.. tamad tayong sabihin kung meron tayong nakikitang mali… tamad tayong makilahok sa ikabubuti ng ating bansa.. reactive kasi pag nayari na dun plang tayo pumapalag.. tapos sama pa dun pagkatapos ng insidente wla na.. ganyan po tayo.. walang sense of history.. sabi nga ng mga matatanda.. ang di marunong tumingin at umunawa sa pinagmulan di alam sa patutunguhan.. now we have people here.. who wants us to forget bout edsa.. forget bout all those struggles we experienced during martial law.. and embrace this so called pd 1017 as some sort of antidote for order and economic stability.. well i personally think its a simplistic way of looking at the situation.. i think all of you should ask all those people who lived through martial law first before making those statements.. coz i dont think you people know what you are talking about..
Thay have STABILITY, PEACE and ORDER. There are no protests/rallies. That’s why Investors are scrambling to put up businesses there… Mas magaling pa nga tayo sa mga intsik doon… and dont tell me their government is not corrupt… I have co-workers presently stationed there.
— agree that no government escapes corruption.. but in china’s situation.. its architect deng xiao ping was a visionary.. he may or may not be corrupt but at least he is intelligent enough to assess that the more you let the economy grow the more money you can extract from it right? di tulad ng mga tao dito kakaunti nalang nga yung pagkakakitaan pinapatay pa nila sa pamamagitan ng matataas na buwis, matataas na kuryente.. i mean come on.. u think spending billions of our money to finance her presidentiable campaign makes her the ideal lady to run our government?? open your eyes n listen.. listen to the people around you..
zorros
February 26th, 2006 at 11:58 pm
You can blame the government if the government itself is the cause of de-estabilization and hinders economic growth by siphoning out developmental loans etc…
tsinoy
February 26th, 2006 at 11:59 pm
PARA SA KAALAMAN NG LAHAT, AT LALO NA DUON SA MGA TAONG HINDI NAKAKAALAM KUNG ANU ANG NANGYAYARI SA LOOB NG CHINA.
GANITO PO IYON:
ANG KONDISYON NG CHINA GOVT. SA MGA NAMUMUHUNAN DUON – BANYAGA MAN O LOKAL – AY IPATUPAD ANG BASIC WAGES NA ITINAKDA NILA AT IBA PANG MGA KONDISYON NA PARA SA KAPAKANAN AT KARAPATAN NG MGA EMPLEYADO.
ANO ANG KAPALIT NITO SA MGA NEGOSYANTE? PO-PROTEKTAHAN NG GOBYERNO ANG KANILANG NEGOSYO SA MGA TAONG GUSTONG GULUHIN ANG KANILANG OPERASYON. EH SINO BA NAMANG EMPLEYADO ANG MAG REREKLAMO KUNG BINIBIGAY SA KANILA ANG DAPAT SA KANILA.
ITO ANG SINASABI KONG DAPAT NATING GAYAHIN.
SA PINAS ANO ANG GINAGAWA NG GOBYERNO SA MGA NEGOSYANTE? SYEMPRE PINO-PROTEKTAHAN DIN DAHIL NAKIKINABANG SILA. E ANO NAMAN ANG SA MGA MANGGAGAWA? WALA DIBA? MAGTIIS SILANG MAGTRABAHO SA KAKARAMPOT NA SAHOD AT PAG NAGREKLAMO SILA KANINO PUMAPANIG ANG GOBYERNO? SYEMPRE DUON SA MGA NEGOSYANTE NA MALAKI ANG LAGAY SA MGA OPISYAL AT TAPOS BULAG NA ANG MGA MATA SA MGA KATIWALIAN.
NAKITA PO BA NINYO ANG PAGKAKAIBA?
penpenpen88
February 27th, 2006 at 12:00 am
LET US FISRT BE RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS. IF WE CANNOT BE THAT, I BELIEVE the GOVERNMENT SHOULD DO WHAT IS NECESSARY TO IMPOSE THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO PEOPLE WHO ARE OBSTRUCTING THE PROGRESS OF THE NATION…
— i agree we should be responsible citizens.. what should we do ba as responsible citizens?? work our backs to death earning a sum barely enough to live by.. tapos we have to share it with our government pa.. 12% .. so what do we get for our 12% do we get better traffic? clean air? less crime in the streets? lower electricity rates? hmmm or do we instead get politicians who suddenly become rich beyond logic? military officers to own houses in the states? bridges that lead to nowhere? politicians who do nothing but prostate themselves in front of the tv instead of making laws to alleviate our lives..cabinet members who instead of doing their jobs are spending most of her time defending her policies to the public.. and a president who spends large sums of our money to appease those who propped her into power.. now if thats what my 12% is paying for.. then forgive me people if i complain a little.. i think my 12% gives me the right to say my peace.. and if this pd1017 is meant to curtail that right of mine.. our right for our 12% then matakot na kayo.. sana kung si lee kwan yew ung president baka papayag ka ako.. but with this bunch of characters.. god really help us..
tsinoy
February 27th, 2006 at 12:19 am
ETO PA PO ANG KARUGTONG;
BAKIT PINAGBABARIL NG PULIS YUNG MGA RALEYISTA DUN SA TIANAMEN?
KASI PO PINAKIALAMAN AT HINIKAYAT NG MGA DAYUHAN YUNG MGA ESTUDYANTE NA MAG ALSA LABAN SA BATAS NA PINAPATUPAD NG GOBYERNO?
EH IKAW BA NAMAN PAKIALAMAN AT LASUNIN NG KAPITBAHAY MO YUNG UTAK NG MGA ANAK MO EH HINDI MO BA PAGAGALITAN YUNG ANAK MO DAHIL NAKIKINIG SYA SA KAPITBAHAY MO?
HINDI KO PO SINASANG-AYUNAN YUNG GINAWA NG CHINA DUON SA MGA ESTUDYANTE NILA NUON SA TIANAMEN SQUARE. PABAYAAN NA PO NATIN SILA KUNG ANU MAN ANG GAWIN NILA SA MGA MAMAYAN NILA BASTA PARA ITO SA KABUTIHAN AT KAPAKANANAN NILANG LAHAT.
ISIPIN NA LANG PO NATIN YUNG SARILING BANSA NATIN AT KUNG MAUNLAD NA TAYO SAKA NA LANG NATIN PAKIALAMAN YUNG IBANG BANSA. EH KASO HINDI NGA TAYO NAGKAKAISA EH. KURAKOT DITO KURAKOT DUON PARA SA SARILI, BAHALA NA YUNG IBA. TAMA BA YUN?
KAWAWA TALAGA YUNG MGA DUKHA, API NA NILOLOKO AT NILALAMANGAN PA.
rego
February 27th, 2006 at 12:32 am
kung cla loren legarda at susa rocess nahaharang sa korte na may pera pa, ako pa kaya na isang ordinaryong tao lang???
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Iyang,
di ba ongoing naman ang proceedinsg sa PET on Loren legarda protest vs. Noli de Castro…….
And to me that makes Loren Legarda well above the other politicians and even Cory and FVR.
Si Loren sinusunod ang processo na define na sa constitution hindi nanggugulo.
Yung kay Susan naman, di inaksyonan na ng Supreme Court. That Susan can not substitute herself for her husband.
Ang problema ayaw yatang tanggapin eto ng panig nila. Kay nagrarally, nangugulo. at para bumangska ang ekonomiya. At pag bumagsak na ang ekonomiya ayun di may issue na uli kay Gloria.
These peopel will just stop at nothing para bumaksaka ng ekonomiya at mabura si Gloria sa malacanang. Eh lumalaban si Gloria . Eto lang ang pinasimulan ng lahat eh.
San kung may question sa legitmimacy ni Gloria, Bakit hindi questionin sa Supreme Court and what ever teh decision of the Supreme court tanggapin na so we can move one. kung may allegations about corruption kay Gloria magkalap ng ebidensya at mag file ng ukol na kaso sa. Wag na yung madaming detabte, rally, at kung anao pang actionna walal naman magandang naidudulot ng sa bansa.
Hind naman yata pwede yung , ah basta, mandaray si Gloria! at basta corrupt si Gloria. Kaya mag rally tayo , mag people power tayo. If you have issue against, pursue to resolution. Kung gusto nyon magrally, gawin ng maayaos ng hindi nyo nakakaperwisyo sa ibang ayaw naman sumama sa rally at gustong lang maghanap ng pera.
Yan ho ang sinasabing , na dapatnating baguhi. Pwed ho nating gawin ang pwede nating gawin bast wag lang ho tayo makakperwisyo sa iba at sa buong bansa at a whole.
lokalokang matino
February 27th, 2006 at 12:34 am
Here we go again with the stupid line — SINO IPAPALIT NILA kay GMA?People who keep asking this question is as stupid as the the question itself.
Do these people mean that if gloria accidentally fall and die, the country will die with her. THINK, OPEN YOUR MINDS!!! Unless your minds are already GLUED to that idea, then die with her if that happens.
The search for credible, responsble leader will cease only when we find one. But as long as cheaters, liars,corrupt and arrogant leaders are around, change is always the best option.
People CHANGE clothes when it’s dirty , because if they dont, they will stink. So, the Filipino people should now CHANGE their leader because, not ONLY does she STINKS, …. the stink is fast contaminating.
Sabi nga ng fruit vendor sa Farmers Market, ang bulok na prutas ay kanilang ina-alis at itinatapon kasi baka makahawa pa
penpenpen88
February 27th, 2006 at 12:34 am
San kung may question sa legitmimacy ni Gloria, Bakit hindi questionin sa Supreme Court and what ever teh decision of the Supreme court tanggapin na so we can move one.
— where have u been??? magbasa ka muna ng pahayagan anak..
penpenpen88
February 27th, 2006 at 12:38 am
cut away the roots and the tree dies.. if u break the leaves new leaves will grow in its stead.. basic human nature.. a president that is corrupt will only inspire people below him/her to be corrupt.. but a person dat is not can easily catch or apprehend his/her subordinates that are corrupt.. she has the moral authority not to mention the concience to do it.. simple aint it?
scud_1975
February 27th, 2006 at 1:04 am
lokalokang matino,
Why? is my stupid question not valid? I was reading your comment word for word and yet wala man lang ako makitang sagot sa stupid question ko..or baka naman stupid para sayo coz you cant give me answer. You keep telling us na she’s an illegitimate president, eh sino ba ang legitimate? that’s question number 2 for you
rego
February 27th, 2006 at 1:13 am
That alright Ms Bayani,
All I really wanted from you is to clarify your statements. That way you views will be more understood by others.
This blog is really a very very good forum para magkaisa at mag ka unawana ang bawat isa. Kaya para sa akin mahalaga na maipaabot mo ng maayos ang nais mong mangayari. Wag na sana yung puro innuendos at vague statement. Lets really do our best to understand each other.
Ganyan na nga ang mag politicians kaya tayo nag kakagulo at wala na aachieve na maganda sa ating bansa eh. sana wag ng gayahin ang mga politicians…. lets just talk and discuss well.
I have nothing against you personally, I just wanted you to clarify your statements especially those negative accusing staments you extended to us, who dont not agree with your conviction
I believe one of the reason why we are in the crisis right now is not no one wanted to discuss and listen to each other. Everybody just wanted to talk. Make noises and we ended up with a very disorderly country, losers…
You are saying that all the info was out there. But with the so many info out , there millions, billions which one of them you want us to refer at. So we can explain each other well. Hindi kasi maganda ang mga patutsda na ganito. Kasi ang resulta lang nyan di pagkakunawaan.Kasi iba ang tinitingngnan ng isa, iba rin yung isa. And the results is chaos . That is why I believe that it really important to make you statement very specific.
I am not here to debate with you, Im here to really understand what is your issue. Especially that dinuro duro mo na kami na para gusto mong kaming lumabas na kontrabida. Tapos kung hingan ka naman ng paliwanag ayaw mo naman. Don’t you think thats fair and full of delicadeza or what ever morality that you would want from our governement official.
Kaya nga sinsabi na ng karamihan dito na muannatin ang mag sarili natin eh… You want our governemnt official to be moral….. What about you. We wanted our government official to be a honest and not corrupt…. Are you honest? Are you moral? are you not corrupt?
You want the gorvernment to listen to your problems. .. what about you to you listen to the governemnt too?
Forgive me but you seems soooo typical of the people on the other side…..ang labo labo kaya ang impression toluy sa inyo gusto nyo lang talaga manggulo eh. Have you ever wonder why you side is not growing in numbers? Because the non partisans people just cannot understand what you really wanted to do. What is you plans? If you want us to remove Gloria, who are you suggesting to replace her? Sorry to say, but unless you articulate your self very well to the silent majority, your goal is doomed. Nag iisip na po ang karamiha sa mag kababyan natin ngayon. HIndi na po nag papadala sa kung ano na lang ang sinisigaw ng mga iba dyan, Lalo nat hindi maiitindihan kung ano ang magpainsasabi nila….
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rego…..
i refuse to explain myself as you would like me too…..trying to question every word that i write instead of discerning the whole context…finding every debatable item that you would like to see as if those were the essence of what i’m trying to say….
i don’t have to prove myself all the time…very elementary …let’s just let the others who read this site discern the context of what both of us are saying…and let them decide who they’ll believe in and who is nearer the truth. anyway…all the information are out there…internet….local/foreign media, etc.THEN YOU GO ABOUT YOUR LIFE AND CARRY THE TRUTH YOU WANT TO BELIEVE IN…..and see if you could carry all of them all the way.
rego
February 27th, 2006 at 1:22 am
penpenpen88 said,
February 27, 2006 @ 12:34 am
San kung may question sa legitmimacy ni Gloria, Bakit hindi questionin sa Supreme Court and what ever teh decision of the Supreme court tanggapin na so we can move one.
– where have u been??? magbasa ka muna ng pahayagan anak..
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Ayan na naman another yprical reply from the other, patutsada, inuendos, vague statements…
Pwede po bang malamn kung alin yung tintukoy mo Amang. Para lang po mag akintindihan tayo. Alin pong pahayanganang gusto nyong basahin ko po????.
rego
February 27th, 2006 at 1:28 am
Like it or not Zorro, the Supreme court is the highest lawmaking body of the Land. What ever they decide that becomes the Law and should be followed by all citizens. Ang gusto mo mo yat eh hindi na kami maniwal sa Supreme Court eh. Hindi naman po pwede yan eh. iisa lang po ang kakahantungan nyan eh. Chaos.! I dont know why some people just wanted to destroy everything that we already had!
zorros said,
February 26, 2006 @ 9:38 pm
I think when the Filipinos allowed GLOria and the Supreme Court distort the Philppine Costitution to legitimize her ascendancy and to unseat a democratically elected president is where the trouble begun. Declaring Martial Law wihtout even uttering and using the word “Martial Law” is easy under this government by using other legalese word and excrutiatingly stretching the definition of words within the constitution.
The Supreme Court managed to invent “constructive resignation” as a basis for legitimizing GMA’s succession. Now, expect a constructive pre-emptive de-estabilizer as a tool to imprison all those who dissent against the government.
MitaMS
February 27th, 2006 at 2:55 am
Oh gosh, nag-away away na..Yan ang gusto nila… nangyari na.
DISSENT is what they want to happen because when that happens, power grab na yan. And here we go round the mulberry bush, teh merry go round, the wheel of fortune at gulong ng palad!!
What now, brown cow?
MitaMS
February 27th, 2006 at 3:07 am
Before we go further, drop all your political leanings..PRO or ANTI whoever, whatever…and then just think of what you want for the country. Let’s get rid of the “politics of personality” before we move on posting comments here again.
For the record lang, I’m not pro-GMA, I’m pro-Philippines.
Can we all do that as an exercise in “cleansing” – balita ko uso daw yon ngayon – maybe that will help all of us!!!!!!!
pinoyankee
February 27th, 2006 at 7:49 am
Totoo dito sa States ang mga Pilipino ay sumusunod sa batas dahil lahat ay sumusunod kahit na ang Presidente.Ano ba ang dahilan at patuloy ang dagsa ng mga Pinoy para makaalis ng Pilipinas?Ang kawalan ng pag-asa para mabuhay ng disente at ang patuloy na katiwalian sa gobyerno kahit sino ang nakaupo.Kung ano ang ginagawa ng nasa itaas ay gannon din ang gagawin ng kanyang nasasakupan.Kung si GMA ba ay maalis sino ang papalit,si Erap[God forbid] si Decastro[maawa ka sa bayan kabayan].Ano ba ang kasiguruhan na kung sinuman ang ipapalit kay GMA ay siyang magiging kalutasan ng ating mga problema.
bloodyass
February 27th, 2006 at 7:58 am
Tama ka pinoyankee. Wala… walang kasiguruhan ang mga transitionary government na yan! Ang pagkakaalam ko mas masaya pa ang mga ganitong klaseng taong pag may coup detat kay sa mag-stabilized ang economiya at ang peso. Di na kayo nakakatuwa ha!
ms. bayani
February 27th, 2006 at 9:51 am
rego…
FORGIVE ME ALSO BUT YOUR SOOOOOO TYPICAL OF THE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE…ALWAYS THROWING BACK THE ISSUES BEING RAISED ABOUT THEM…INSTEAD OF FACING THEM FAIR AND SQUARE.
and…just how sure are you that our numbers are not growing…why don’t you try visiting places frequented by people and find out their sentiments….try going to your local public market and feel the sentiments of the people there…the very people who are quickly affected by economic fall-outs of a corrupt government
and what is your proof na ang iniisip ng mga kababayan natin eh katulad ng iniisip mo? …how sure are you that the so-called SILENT MAJORITY SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS?…sa palagay mo ba ang pananahimik ay nangangahulugan na katulad mo rin sila ng iniisip? mas magaling ka pa sa akin magbigay ng sweeping statements ah. well, i have nothing against you personally, and true there are loads of information out there and we are free to choose the ones that we would like to believe…and its your choice to believe what you want to believe and as i said i’m not here to force you to believe mine…
eh kaya nga i am citing my views here….it’s up to the readers if they want to believe mo or not and it’s the least of my problems…and if you feel you are personally alluded to…then as i said maybe it’s the way you discern my thoughts….
i guess….i am only vague to people who do not agree with my thoughts….but then again…i am not forcing anybody here to agree with me all the time….and i wouldn’t want to repeat myself and explain my thoughts over and over again…they are self-explanatory anyway.
rego
February 27th, 2006 at 9:52 am
this question has really been raised ever since. And i believ the is also the reason why opposition is ganing ground in their move to oust Gloria. Kasi sila mismo na nagpatalsik kay Gloria hindi magkasundo kung sino ang ipapalit eh. TRG ba, si Noli , ba si Drilon ba? Hindi naman talaga si Gloria ang kaaway ng opposition pagdating sa kanilang adhikain eh yung ranks nila mismo. Yung hindi nila pagagasundo, yung hindi nila pagbibigayan. Pustahan tayo kung mag succeed man ang opposition na mapatalsik si Gloria Katakot takot na bickering ang mangyayari. And it will even be dirtier by that time. Rememebre hos senator Pimentel became so bitter of Glroia when she did not appoint him as the Vice president?
jr_lad
February 27th, 2006 at 2:18 pm
MitaMS said,
February 27, 2006 @ 3:07 am
Before we go further, drop all your political leanings..PRO or ANTI whoever, whatever…and then just think of what you want for the country. Let’s get rid of the “politics of personality” before we move on posting comments here again.
For the record lang, I’m not pro-GMA, I’m pro-Philippines…
>>>>>>>>>>>>
ako i’m pro- ligitimate govt. i’m (intolerant) anti-cheating and corruption. i’m pro-good governance with high morality and integrity. i’m anti-suppression of truth and gagging of media. i’m for progress and at the same time for transparency and accountability. i’m anti-martial rule. i’m for fredom and democracy. and most of all i’m anti-marcos and estrada!
does that makes me anti-gma? destabilizer? an economic saboteur? pro-opposition (i have no person in mind to replace gue-ria except support the law of succession)? or i’m pro-philippines too?
MitaMS
February 27th, 2006 at 10:21 pm
Jr,
Pareho pala tayo! nakakagulat ba? iba lang ang paraan na nakikita natin sa pagreresolba ng problema ng bayan pero iisa adhikain natin…
I do have some add-ons, I’m for a responsible citizenry that includes everyone, from top to bottom; good government and working institutions that can serve ALL the nation’s needs: enforce laws; prosecute the accused regardless of social or political standing or kayamanan; give our politicians and institutions real checks and balances so we can avoid political quagmires like this; move the capital to Cebu where it’s more peaceful, please lang; give Filipinos a chance to just work and better their lives by providing us an atmosphere conducive for business, progress and prosperity.
Yun lang gusto ko.
rego
February 28th, 2006 at 12:39 am
Ms. Bayani,
There is only one solid proof that your number is not growing and teh majority doesn share your points of view. And what is that???
You haven’t succeeded on your goal until now. And its almost a year now! Becase the reality is you needed the numbers to achieve your goal.
That is why Im telling you be very clear on what you really wanted to say
so that peopel will understand you . And really convince them that your plans for the country will be very good for everyone,.
Isa lang naman ang gusto ng majority eh. Mapapaganda ang kanilang mga kalagayan kung pataliskin si Gloria. Believe me once na present nyo na maayos ang mag plano nyo at nakikita nila bubuti nga ang magh buhay nila, Hind tatanggi ang mga yan!. Hindi na kailangan mag sirko sirko ni Cory at iba pang leader ng opposition para mapatalsik lang si Gloria. Ora mismo ang mag dadagsaan yan sa Malacanang para patalsikin si Gloria!
Ang problem wala eh. Ikaw na mismo hindi mo maarticulate ng maayos kung ano ang maggiging scenario kung sasama kami sa inyo eh at para mapatalsik si Gloria eh.!
INSIDE PCIJ: Stories behind our stories » Senate condemns Proclamation 1017
February 28th, 2006 at 12:19 pm
[…] Members of the Upper House questioned what they called "alarming acts" carried out by government authorities, like the warantless arrests of opposition leaders like Crispin Beltran and certain military officials, the exercise of control over print media, veiled threats against broadcast networks, and even the 6 p.m. curfew imposed on the press corps of Malacanang. […]
eyesWideopen2
March 1st, 2006 at 1:37 pm
move the capital to Cebu where it’s more peaceful?
i think cebu is peaceful because Cebu is not the Capital City yet. If the Capital City is transfered to Cebu, the people in Cebu becomes more aware, And if the government is still corrupt, Cebu will turn to be a Manila.
tambuli
March 3rd, 2006 at 4:30 pm
TSINOY … I AGREE WITH YOU, SA PALAGAY KO, TAMA ANG MGA OBSERBASYON MO, SANA MAINTINDIHAN NG KARAMIHAN, GUSTO KO ANG KOMENTO MO NA “THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX” BAKA SAKALI ANG SOLUSYON SA PROBLEMA NATIN AY DI PANGKARANIWAN
mabuhay!
Asing
March 10th, 2006 at 8:04 am
There is one more solution left for us to oust this arroyo’s government.,we can’t tolerate anymore how this fake president running the government to a wrong direction.
Why not tell the good soldier in the arm forces of the philippine That we wil be behind them and we will back up them for telling us the truth for what really happen in the last held election.All of us who wants to know the real score of that tainted election resulys headed by Benjamin Abalos of comelec(tuta ni Gloria).Pwede tayong mag-ambagan ng pera sa lahat ng sundalong maglakas ng loob na sabihin ang talagang nagyari noon sa nakaraang pandaraya ni Gloria.
We will solicits all the money for them in case they will be remove from the service in the military,we will give them all the benefits for telling us the truth.Sa dami nating gustong malaman ang totoo I know all of us can donate 100 pesos each the shares,kasi tatanggalin sila sa service ni Gloria at mga sipsip nya sa gowernment na pinakabulok sa lahat ng naging presidente ny pilipinas.Sa gayon hindi na sila takot na maalis sa military na nagiging problema nila sa ngayon para sabihin lang pael nila sa pandaraya ni Gloria na kapit sa patalim na ayaw maalis sa seat.
We all know that she does’nt want to relinquish her position,because she might also liable in grafts and corruptions in her government,kasama si Mickey Arroyo, Miguel Arroyo,Igi Arroyo her family circle.She is very much afraid to be jailed,Kaya lahat ng paraan ay ginagawa na niya at mga abusadong congressman magnanakaw na kakampi nya.Bukod dyan sa mga cabinete na sobra ang pag aalala na maalis siya sa pwesto sobra ang takaw sa posisyon,Ignacio Bunye na bakla yata,Mike Defensor na akala mo acting president na sa pakiramdam nya,Ermita na sobra na ang tanda pakiramdam niya siya lang ang magaling na bobo naman yata.Si De Venecia na mickey mouse na sobra ang sipsip kay pandak,samantalang utang sa government ni Marcos noon at ayaw ng bayaran kay mayaman ngayon sa perang hindi kanya,Reyes na magnanakaw na pinagtakpan ni Gloria,naku lao na si bobo sa batas na si Gonzales si Mr. Noted,mabuti nalan at hindi ko siya naging teacher noon sa school,itong sira ulo Gonzales ang may pinaka malaking kasalanan non kaya naupo sa malakanyang? Sa pagharang niya sa opposition ng ebidensya para malaman ang pandaraya na kasama siya,naku po mga kaibigan tingnan ninyo ang kapalit at premyo ni Gloria sa bobong abogago na yan,tuwang-tuwa sa naging posisyon nya ngayon.Na kahit na bobo lang,bastat sipsip may pakinabang din kung minsan.Nandyan din si cong. Pichay sobra din ang sipsip at sarado na ang isip sa maging tuta nalang ni Gloria habang panahon,Matt Defensor na kapareho nyang tuta na kung ano ang ipagawa ni Gloria amen lang ng amen sa fake president nilang sinasamba na parang panginoon sa isip nila,si Davide ng supreme court na takot at nonerbiyos kay Gloria na akala niya iaabolish ang korte kaya nagsipsip din kay GMA,marami pa kayong dapat na malaman kaya lans sa next time nalang ang complete grievances ko.