March 16, 2006 · Posted in: Governance, In the News

Pulse Asia: 65% of Pinoys want Arroyo out of office

SIXTY-FIVE percent of Filipinos think it best for President Arroyo to discontinue from office, with 59 percent preferring that she resign and 6 percent opting for her forcible removal, according to Pulse Asia‘s March 2006 survey.

But there remains no consensus among those who want her to quit or who should succeed her.

Thirty-eight percent think special elections ought to be held to elect either a new president, a president and a vice president, or possibly a prime minister. Twenty-one percent would like Vice President Noli de Castro to assume the presidency, either for the remainder of Arroyo’s term or temporarily while preparations are made for a new government under a new constitution.

Pulse Asia said the issuance of Proclamation 1017 may have served to reverse a possible decline in the percentage of Filipinos who think that Arroyo’s resignation is the most beneficial political scenario for the country at present. The proportion who chose the resignation option is larger among those who were interviewed after the declaration of a state of emergency (61 percent) than among those who were interviewed before it (53 percent).

Four in 10 Filipinos consider a coup against the Arroyo administration as being most inimical to the interest of the country and its people, according to Pulse Asia. Reports of an aborted coup attempt during the survey period apparently did not influence the public to be any more or any less averse to military coup d’etats, it said.

Pulse Asia also said Filipinos have not made up their minds on who is the best person to lead the country. De Castro is favored by 23 percent, former President Joseph Estrada by 17 percent, and Sen. Panfilo Lacson by 13 percent.

Despite Arroyo’s remark made before the Foreign Correspondents Association of the Philippines last Feb. 21 that she is the best person to lead the country, only 11 percent consider her to be so. Instead, 32 percent identify Arroyo as the most unacceptable to lead the country at present.

Pulse Asia said that Estrada enjoys a trust rating of 48 percent; former President Ramos, 31 percent (or 11 points higher than his October 2005 figure); and Arroyo, 22 percent.

Arroyo, meanwhile, is distrusted by 50 percent of Filipinos, followed by former Ramos (38 percent), and Estrada (25 percent). It pointed out that Estrada’s and Ramos’s distrust ratings declined by 11 and 9 points from the October level.

Read the survey results here.

53 Responses to Pulse Asia: 65% of Pinoys want Arroyo out of office

ryebosco

March 16th, 2006 at 10:01 pm

I HATE SURVEYS. IT SHOWS NOTHING BUT CONFLICTING INTERESTS, OPINIONS AND PERSONALITIES. (Like a person with schizophrenia.) HEY PULSE ASIA, IT’LL SAVE YOU TIME AND MONEY IF YOU JUST CONDUCTED SURVEYS IN CONGRESS.

Estrada and Lacson favored to lead the country after Arroyo?
Estrada has a trust rating?

100% of my brain cells and common sense prefer a French-style revolution.

LadyL

March 17th, 2006 at 7:43 am

Hay naku, alam naman natin na majority na ng mga Filipino ay ayaw na talaga kay GLUE-RIA. Magtanong-tanong ka lang kahit na saan at malalaman mo kong ano ang opinyon ng mga Filipino kay GLUE-RIA. Kahit na dito sa office namin ay maraming galit sa kanya pero kahit na 90% pa seguro ang ayaw na sa kanya ay hindi pa rin aalis ‘yan. Masyado na yatang nahihibang sa kapangyarihan. Kahit na katiting na delicadeza ay wala na talagang naiwan sa katawan niyan. Kong sa ibang bansa nangyayari ito ay matagal ng nag-resign ‘yan dahil sa kahihiyan. Pero si GLUE-RIA hindi lang kapit-tuko, manhid at walang hiya pa.

baycas

March 17th, 2006 at 8:04 am

14 august 2002

“In a luncheon meeting with Malacañang reporters, the President said she was elated by her improved satisfaction rating, up from a +4 satisfaction in the May 17-June 3 survey.” http://www.ebalita.net/go/news/news.php?id=239

26 june 2003

“You know the stand of the President on surveys,” explained Presidential Spokesman Ignacio Bunye. “The President says popularity comes and goes. These favorable things come and go. So she would rather concentrate on doing her work.” http://www.news.ops.gov.ph/archives2003/june26.htm#GMA%20net

27 june 2003

“I believe surveys are a mirror of the people’s most important yearnings and needs. In short, these are sincerity, action and results. I am committed to leadership based on these three points. I thank the people for their trust and support, by which I will continue to be inspired to do my best for the common good.” http://www.news.ops.gov.ph/archives2003/june27.htm#the%20President

March 17th, 2006 at 8:05 am

25 november 2004
ricardo v. puno, jr.’s take on gloria’s rating:

“While government communication ‘experts’ attempt positive spins, or blame external and uncontrollable factors for GMA’s precipitous slide in popularity, as reported in the latest Pulse Asia survey, the fact is that the survey should worry the administration…”

“…It’s not only the drop in popularity – or ‘public approval for presidential performance,’ as Pulse Asia puts it – it’s also the continuing downward trajectory of that slide. The question we have to ask ourselves is how much more of this persistent decline our political system will be able to take. This is particularly disturbing because, bad as things have been in the popular perception, we ain’t seen nuthin’ yet. Or, put more politely, the ‘pain’ which GMA asks of her people hasn’t really been felt yet in all its potential excruciation or intensity…” http://www.newsflash.org/2004/02/ht/ht004830.htm

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30 march 2005

“Malacanang sees the latest Pulse Asia survey on President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo’s approval rating more as a challenge than a threat to the administration.”

“In a press briefing today, Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita said the survey should further encourage the officials of the administration to work together in carrying out the programs of the President so her ratings could improve in the future.”

“‘I would like to look at it more as a challenge for everyone, especially to those in government, to do better and contribute more to governance,’ he said…”

“‘You know, administering a nation such as the Philippines is not a matter of popularity,’ he said, as he cited experiences of other administrations in other parts of the world whose approval ratings also declined as a result of the programs they implemented, which created long-term gains for their countries.” http://www.news.ops.gov.ph/archives2005/mar30.htm#Palace%20sees

16 march 2006

“Malacañang brushed off today a recent opinion survey showing that President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo’s approval rating remains low, saying tough, must decisions of the President are not always popular.”

“‘We are no longer debating the whys and wherefores of the surveys,’ Press Secretary and concurrent Presidential Spokesman Ignacio R. Bunye said this morning.”

“He pointed out that the President is focused on what must be done to uphold the rule of law, ‘push economic growth to create more jobs and bring essential services to the doorsteps of the people.'”

“‘Tough decisions often reap negative polls,’ Bunye said.”

“He pointed out that more important than the President’s rating is the country’s democratic institutions and way of life because of Proclamation 1017 declaring a state of national emergency…”

“…Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita said earlier the Palace expects the political opposition to use the survey results to step up its campaign to oust the President.”

“‘Especially in a democratic society like what we have, you can expect detractors to highlight the negative. There would always be people who would continue to find fault,’ Ermita said.”

“Time and again, the President herself dismissed her low survey ratings, saying that the presidency is not a popularity contest.” http://www.news.ops.gov.ph/archives2006/mar16.htm#ignores

luzviminda

March 17th, 2006 at 9:40 am

Watch the Video of Erap’s TRIUMPH OF TRUTH: Hit this link -> http://erap.ph/media/triumph.wmv … and also GMA’s PAGLABAN SA KATAKSILAN -> http://www.gov.ph/multimedia/files/1017.wm

scud_1975

March 17th, 2006 at 10:20 am

“And in the naked light I saw
Ten thousand people, maybe more.
People talking without speaking,
People hearing without listening,
People writing songs that voices never share
And no one dare
Disturb the Sound of Silence.”

The Sounds of Silence
Simon & Garfunkel-
“Wednesday Morning 3A.M.”, 1964

March 17th, 2006 at 11:17 am

As for the naked truth we know,
Billions of pesos, maybe more,
being spent for popularity
being spent to get loyalty
being spent to ensure that no one cares
that no one dares
raise a voice of dissent.

The Sound of Truth
LC
Friday Morning 11am, 2006
=)

lutongmakaw

March 17th, 2006 at 11:36 am

What else is new. This has been going on for so long already and yet GMA is still in power.

Even if a new survey will say she is 99% unpopular and can no longer be trusted, she will still be in power because most of the people still does not want to take actions…

penpenpen88

March 17th, 2006 at 1:04 pm

yup… we deserve her.. so let this nightmare continue …

lokalokang matino

March 17th, 2006 at 1:17 pm

At first instance I want gloria to stayin office so that, THE COUNTRY “CAN MOVE ON”

bUT KNOWING exactly what gloria is CAPABLE OF doing… NO WAY,
SHE MUST GO !!! Pulse Asia, count me in…

xyrokielle

March 17th, 2006 at 2:12 pm

Pulse Asia, count me in! Im one of those who want her OUT!
Napakakapal ng mukha ng unanong yan!!!!!

bayonic

March 17th, 2006 at 2:21 pm

God money I’ll do anything for you.
God money just tell me what you want me to.
God money nail me up against the wall.
God money don’t want everything he wants it all.

No you can’t take it
No you can’t take it
No you can’t take that away from me
No you can’t take it
No you can’t take it
No you can’t take that away from me

Head like a hole.
Black as your soul.
I’d rather die than give you control.
Head like a hole.
Black as your soul.
I’d rather die than give you control.

Bow down before the one you serve.
You’re going to get what you deserve.
Bow down before the one you serve.
You’re going to get what you deserve.

Head Like A Hole – Nine Inch Nails
Pretty Hate Machine , 1989

johnmarzan

March 17th, 2006 at 2:39 pm

she will still be in power because most of the people still does not want to take actions…

buti pa sa thailand ano? but then, the thaksin gov’t respect the people’s rights to free assembly.

March 17th, 2006 at 2:43 pm

by luzviminda
Watch the Video of Erap’s TRIUMPH OF TRUTH

–thanks for sharing the vid… (to reybosco) if there’s anyone that should be guilliotined it should be that bastard chavit… criminal talaga.. buddy buddy ni ate glue… birds of the same feather ksi… di maaresto aresto…yn ng government ntin… yung madaling i bully binubully… eh si chavit..a well known jueteng lord na dun pa rin.. di magalaw… nagpapayaman pa rin sya kapalit ng hirap ng mga kababayan nya sa ilocos… ganyan ng pilipinas ni gloria… wlng pagbabago mula ng ke marcos.. continuing the same bulok tradition… of favoring the warlord elite.. the needs of this few daw out weigh the needs of the majority of us poor filipinos… tsk tsk…

–i think pCIJ should do follow up on its erap report.. kung nasan na yung mga taong nkinabang sa coup ni erap… just to be fair di ba? habang di pa sil napapatay ni chavit..

March 17th, 2006 at 2:56 pm

ng eh… buddist kasi sila kya non voilence… yung CBCP dito kakampi ni gloria dati… gusto rin mapaalis si erap ksi di maka dyos daw… eh yung pinalit nila mas di maka dyos.. nagsisimba kunwari but puro makasarili o maka kaibigan naman ang gingawa nya.. gnun ba ang katholiko nagyon sa pinas? yung mandaraya na sinungling pa? more important what does that say about us as catholics????? yung tumahimik nalang at let this grave wrong continue??? yung wl nang sense ng tama.. lahat nalang it depends.. basta di ito nangyari sakin ok lang… di sakin nangyari yung stampede… di sa akin nangyari yung landslide.. di sa akin nangyari yung pangdaraya… di ako naapektuhan ng gulo sa kalsada.. wala akong paki.. gnun b yun???..seriously… gumising naman tayo… habang pwede pa…

barakocafe

March 17th, 2006 at 3:37 pm

About this: “In a press briefing today, Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita said the survey should further encourage the officials of the administration to work together in carrying out the programs of the President so her ratings could improve in the future.”

– So this the objective now? To improve her ratings? And yet the “Time and again, the President herself dismissed her low survey ratings, saying that the presidency is not a popularity contest.” Well, which is it? How illogical.

I’m with the 65%.

ipodmania

March 17th, 2006 at 5:20 pm

I’m seeing here na mas marami ang ayaw kay GMA. Instead of lambasting the opinions of all bloggers here, why not start a list of people whom you think will be best to replace her? Everyone here seems to be intelligent enough, I can tell from the words, the quotations, the sarcasm. No one is a 100% sure that she cheated. But please, enlighten an idiot (moi truly) here…sino ang pwedeng kapalit ni GMA? Here’s my take…correct me please if I’m wrong. I’m open to criticisms.

Roces – Hmm…credentials…let’s see…High school graduate. Actress. Another Cory in the making.

Estrada – The Philippine president is accused of receiving $200,000 a month in payoffs from illegal gambling operators. Graft and corruption: Estrada is accused of receiving $2.6 million from tobacco taxes and under-declaring his personal net worth. Betrayal of public trust: Estrada is accused of intervening in the investigation of a friend by the Securities and Exchange Commission. Violation of the constitution: Estrada is accused of participating in a family-controlled real-estate business despite a prohibition on outside business interests while in office. (Hmmm…so papano uli nangyari na siya ang mas favored ng mga tao? Remind me.)

Lacson – “Despite these Provisions then PACC Task Force Habagat Chief Gen. Panfilo Lacson believes the law should never be soft on suspected criminals if they are accused of kidnapping, even if they are children (on the torture of two 12 year old boys suspected of kidnap and ransom)” … taken from PCIJ Previous Report 07/10/95. Let’s not forget the Kuratong Baleleng case also.

March 17th, 2006 at 9:29 pm

Naku ipodmania, open target ka na rin dito for asking that question .
ako muna sasagot sayo bago birahin ang opinyon mo ng iba. Pwede bang “none of the above” ? may vice president naman tayo na pwedeng pumalit sakaling bumaba sya sa pwesto o mapatanggal ng impeachment. And regarding your comment na “No one is a 100% sure that she cheated”, muntik ako mahulog sa upuan ko. Ang alam ko kasi lahat sila nandaya, walang malinis na politiko sa pilipinas (maliban kay Mayor Robredo ng Naga, RMM awardee like Sheila Coronel). Ang sa akin naman, 100% she lied and cheated.. pero stole the presidency?? kanino???

Nandy

March 18th, 2006 at 12:03 am

Firstly, I believe that the leadership of this country or any country for that matter should not be based on surveys. After all, surveys are just sample taken out of the total population, no matter how scientific it was done, it’s still not representing the population so it cannot be a basis for deciding who is the leader or whether the leader should resign. Ano na .lang ang mang yari kung sa survey tayo mag base? Secondly, we all know for a fact tht GMA was not elected by the majority of the people because, nga, there were 6 of them who run during the elections… so it is no longer a surprise if the survey resulted that way because we all know that the majority did not vote for her, it just happened that she got more votes than the others (though there are claims that she cheated)..so again, let the survey results be posted as guide but it can never be a basis for removing a president. Yon lang po.

MitaMS

March 18th, 2006 at 12:33 am

Surveys don’t mean a thing unless an election is coming up. si Bush din lowest rating ever pero andyan pa din sya – lower even than GMA if memory serves me right.

if you’re serious about getting her out, stop asking for her resignation and street protests. that won’t work and it’s about time everyone accepts that.

concentrate on impeachment….oo nga pala..wala pang report yon dito about the opposition’s announcement they will pursue that option.

i remember saying last year in some blogs (maybe even here) that time passes so fast…eto na..ilan months lang puede na ulit mag file.

politics is a game. you have to have a strategy to win, you have to anticipate your opponent’s next moves…you have to have the best minds on your side…almost a year has passed since the last
impeachment attempt. dapat prepared na lahat for the next.

coldfeet

March 18th, 2006 at 5:21 am

Yah right scud…. but si Noli nga ba ang papalit.. I’ve heard na wla siya sa plano ng transition government kung mamawala si gloria.. were doomed kung ganun kasi sobrang takot natin sa martial law eh sa martial din ang ating bagsak.. 1000 days under transition government under a militarty is martial law itself.. pati yata communista ay kasali.. so yan ba ang demokrasya na minimithi mo.. ? demokrasya nga siguro dahil pati mga komunista ay sumasali.. pero do you really think that NOLI can hod the power.. e tatagal ba.. i doubt it.. kung kaya nilang tanggalin si GMA na sobrang kapit sa upoan .. mas lalong hindi tatagal ang NOLI mo.. at sino ang uupo.. si Erap, si Ping , si Eddie V.. buti pa si Eddie Gil nalang at mas may sense pang kausap.. heheh.. much worse at must kapanikapaniwala na Transition Government ang mag rule under military at communist.. magiging puppet lang kung sino ang uupo. hindi nga binili ni Ping yung TNG na yan..

March 18th, 2006 at 5:28 am

Guys have you try working your butt out.. managin people.. ? siguro nga wla.. kasi ang pagmanage ng isang corporate institution ay hindi isang popularidad nakikita.. (pang eleksyong lang yan).. after eleksyon.. kahit sikat o hindi ay gagawa ka nang mga desisyon na marami ang magagalit kahit na good for the country.. sometimes nga yung mga good decisions like improving our fiscal deficits is always unpopular to any citizens in any country.. becoz this wil call for increase taxation.. siguro nga si ERAP dapat sa popularity contest kasi laging namimigay kahit hindi kaya ng gobyerno. kung yan lang ang babasihan.. well philippines is doomed.. kasi maraming batas na dapat ipatupad na ikakasira ng sinumang presidente..

March 18th, 2006 at 5:38 am

sabi nga nila 95% na katalinuhan ng pangulo ay makikita ninuman sa atin .. yung natitira na 5% ay kaya siya nanalo noong eleksyon.. eleksyon is popularity contest….pero after eleksyon ay dapat tapos na yan.. kasi mayrong kang mga desisyon na mayrong ayaw.. by the way, dapat maging responsiblidad mo ang pagboto. kung hindi mo alam.. ang ibinigay mo na boto ay pang 2010 pa mag expire. siguro hindi ka bumabasa… siguro dapat counted boto mo ay .5 lang…heheh.. hindi kasi buo..

concerned citizen

March 18th, 2006 at 6:04 am

KASAMA AKO SA 65%. HALOS LAHAT NG AKING RELATIVES, FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS, MY KIDS AND THEIR CLASSMATES AYAW NA TALAGA KAY ARROYO. BAKA DI LANG 65%. HALOS LAHAT NG SECTOR DITO SA PILIPINAS EXCEPT FEW OF THE AFP, SOME OF PNP, MGA TUTA SA LOWER HOUSE, MGA BAYARAN SA LGU’S, CABINETS AT YUNG MGA NAKIKINABANG NA FRIENDS AND RELATIVES NG 1ST FAMILY. IILAN LANG SILA COMPARED SA MGA TAO NA WALANG MAGAWA KUNDI MAGSAKRIPISYO AT MAGTIIS AT MGA WALANG PAKIALAM. SO APATHETIC! KAYA SI ARROYO WILL REIGN TILL KING THY COME. SANA MAYBE SOMEDAY OR IN THE NEAR FUTURE MAY PAGASA PA RIN ANG PILIPINAS. SO HELP US GOD. GOOD DAY TO EVERYONE! GO PCIJ! GOD BLESS!

March 18th, 2006 at 9:53 am

coldfeet, sorry ha pero di ko makuha ang point sa haba ng reply mo. para sayo ba, ano ang magandang solusyon para maayos ang gulo sa pilipinas?

March 18th, 2006 at 11:49 am

by ipod mania
Roces – Hmm…credentials…let’s see…High school graduate. Actress. Another Cory in the making.
–who says you have to be a college grad to be president anyways.. we have lots of harvrad,wharton georgetown grads serving in government.. do you see any improvement in how things are being run right now?? knowledge is only part of the ingredient in becoming good president.. dapat me sense ka rin of fair play.. me charisma.. and most of all di ka corrupt.. among other things..

Estrada – The Philippine president is accused of receiving $200,000 a month in payoffs from illegal gambling operators. Graft and corruption: Estrada is accused of receiving $2.6 million from tobacco taxes and under-declaring his personal net worth.
–hmmm and is this a proven fact already right?? i mean me verdict na ba courts?? and who is making the accusations?? CHaVIT the jueteng and warlord SINGSON?? yung criminal na buddy buddy ni ate glue?? di b me allegtions na me pinatay nanaman yun??

Lacson – “Despite these Provisions then PACC Task Force Habagat Chief Gen. Panfilo Lacson believes the law should never be soft on suspected criminals if they are accused of kidnapping,
–hmmm has any of your family members been kidnapped, killed or raped recently?? if meron how would you feel kaya towards the kidnappers?.. etong si gloria witha ll her resources in government walang makitang evidence to make those accusations stick nge eh.. against lacson her number one enemy..

by scud
“No one is a 100% sure that she cheated”, muntik ako mahulog sa upuan ko. Ang alam ko kasi lahat sila nandaya, walang malinis na politiko sa pilipinas
— so anu na i ask.. we let all those cheating politicos off the hook nalng ksi ei they’re all doin it anyways.. lets just go on wid our merry lives and just make money.. enough to study nursing and leave the country for good.. maling pangiisip yun.. dapat kung me nakitang mali dapat ituwid.. marami ngang nagchecheat dyan but the prob is walang nagsusumbong.. now here comes gloria on tape na nagsasalita bout the manipulating the election.. are we just to lay back leave it be.. and just move on with our lives?? hmmm what kind countrylovin citizen would do that? i say lets start wid the big fish.. then hopefully others will follow suit.. i think it will send a signal to all those corrupt ones na sooner or later well get you so beware…

Ang sa akin naman, 100% she lied and cheated.. pero stole the presidency?? kanino???
knino?? sa atin.. who else?? sinu ba talo sa experiment niyang ito? di ba tyo?? tsk tsk…

March 18th, 2006 at 12:00 pm

whatever you say penpen, whatever you say

March 18th, 2006 at 12:03 pm

penpen, can we just debate on issues affecting our country. at hindi ang mga desisyon o mga opinyon ng mga bloggers. pick any issues, just drop the “KAYO, MO, SYO, NINYO,IKAW, KA etc.”

March 18th, 2006 at 12:06 pm

concentrate on impeachment….oo nga pala..wala pang report yon dito about the opposition’s announcement they will pursue that option.
— look at the whole picture mita.. all things being equal dapat nga wag na mag mass actions wag na mag ask for her to resign (as if papatulan…kapit tuko ksi.. natatakot pag nag resign baka habulin sya ni erap ng demanda.. coup plotter din ksi)… but.. youve seen what they (administrtion cohorts) did sa last impechment ryt?.. in reality all things are not equal… me rules para sa administration me rules para sa opposition.. rules that are poles apart.. me wrong doing ang isang administration official katakotatkot n internal investigation na hangang ngyon la pa rin results..(think venable think fertilizer.. those are the recent ones)..and if i-iinvestigte ng senado yaw ipahintulot ng malacanang (bkit?? dahil ba me tinatago?? san ang transparency??).. but.. pag opposition ang me alleged wrong doing.. warrantless arrest.. and illegl detention kahit na pinapalaya na ng courts.. thats the reality of this government.. so under all these inequality nu pa ba choice ng mga taong ninkawan ng pangulo?

March 18th, 2006 at 12:12 pm

penpen, can we just debate on issues affecting our country. at hindi ang mga desisyon o mga opinyon ng mga bloggers. pick any issues, just drop the “KAYO, MO, SYO, NINYO,IKAW, KA etc.”
–aything you say scud.. anything you say… akin lang..last time i checked di ba debating is all about challenging the opinyon of others?? hmmm baka mali lang pagka understnd ko ng meaning ng word debate.. ill go check my filipino-english dictionary ok?? tsssk.. tskk

March 18th, 2006 at 12:18 pm

March 18th, 2006 at 12:40 pm

tanungin kita, generally ano ang tingin mo sa mga pilipinong umaalis ng bansa? at pano ka nakakasiguro di ako nagsusumbong sa mga nakikita kong katiwalian sa gobyerno? at pano mo nasabi im studying nursing? tutal naman yung ibang tao ang gusto mo pag usapan..cge pag usapan natin
–personlly i think highly of them… at least sila ngiisip umsenso.. im just stating that fact na marami nga sa kanila gustong umalis para maka hanap ng better job.. the primary considertion here is money… not enough to go by… di ba? bt ba walang nag raraly now? one of the reason ksi they cant afford it… they cant afford to voice their opinion ksi they have to work to make ends meet..
as for my statement bout government officials .. sige name five governor o mayor na na charge with graft and corruption.. whose serving a sentence now because of it… yung mga past allegations of corruption me nahuli ba?? sbi mo lam mo most of the politicosa re cheaters… me nahuli b?? so wht does that tell you? that im taking things personally or that im just stting what is fact??
–have you ever heard of third person.. sinabi ko ba directly na ikaw ang nag nunursing?? please… basahin mo muna ksi mabuti yung mg sinasabi ko bgo ka mag react ok??

penpen, can we just debate on issues affecting our country. at hindi ang mga desisyon o mga opinyon ng mga bloggers. pick any issues, just drop the “KAYO, MO, SYO, NINYO,IKAW, KA etc.”
–just checked debate does involve challeging ones opinyons.. not unless were in martial law right now and your censoring me.. tsk tsk..

March 18th, 2006 at 12:54 pm

de·bate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-bt)
v. de·bat·ed, de·bat·ing, de·bates
v. intr.
To consider something; deliberate.
To engage in argument by discussing opposing points.
To engage in a formal discussion or argument.

-so anu na i ask.. we let all those cheating politicos off the hook nalng ksi ei they’re all doin it anyways.. lets just go on wid our merry lives and just make money.. enough to study nursing and leave the country for good.. maling pangiisip yun.. dapat kung me nakitang mali dapat ituwid.. marami ngang nagchecheat dyan but the prob is walang nagsusumbong

so ilan na ba ang nasumbong mo? parang ang tindi ng “angst” na nararamdaman mo, cge nga ano ba mga nakita mong mali na naisumbong mo na? at pano mo nasabing maling pagiisip ang mag aral ng nursing, umalis ng bansa at kumita ng pera..ano ba ang tamang pag iisip para sayo? pardon my “kayabangan” , pero kung sa padamihan din lang ng magagandang nagawa sa bayan kumpara sayo mapapahiya ka lang.

March 18th, 2006 at 1:05 pm

from dictionary.com , so may nakalagay ba jan na personalan? the problem of us sometimes, masyado tayo nagpapaka righteous. so tama ka walang nahuhuling mga corrupt na gov’t officials, anong punto mo dun? kasalanan ba yun ng mga kontra sa paniniwala mo?
— im not forcin anyone to share my views.. if yaw mong magreact e di ok lng di ba?
— im not claiming to be righteous.. im just stating fact.. im surprised ur taking offense.. bakit guilty ka ba? an dito naman ang PCIJ eh so if u have anything you wanna air fell free to do so..its your right.. as it is my right to challenge those views.. if your not comfy with it.. dont react.. but dont tell me to limit my thoughts just because u cant take it… thats censorship..
–and im not the one getting personal you are… sinbi ko b na mali view mo? im just chllenging em.. now if u have differing opinion state it.. di yung magrereklamo ka nlang dyan.. put up or shut up..

March 18th, 2006 at 1:13 pm

ako guilty? saan? haha..dont worry wala akong kakayanan i censor ka. may mga naisumbong na akong mga katiwalian sa gobyerno na hindi naman kailangan sabihin pa. i’m not taking offense kasi alam ko naman mali mga patutsada mo patungkol sakin eh. matalino ka, magagamit mo yan para sa ikabubuti ng bansa natin if you put it into action.

March 18th, 2006 at 1:16 pm

so ilan na ba ang nasumbong mo? parang ang tindi ng “angst” na nararamdaman mo, cge nga ano ba mga nakita mong mali na naisumbong mo na?
–madami na… come a lil closer and ill tell you all about it…

at pano mo nasabing maling pagiisip ang mag aral ng nursing, umalis ng bansa at kumita ng pera..ano ba ang tamang pag iisip para sayo?
— excuse me para kang si mike ah… putting words wherin none ws spoken… tssk tskk.. me sinbi ba kong mali maging nurse at kumit ng pera abrod??.. hmmm gets ur facts straight man..

pardon my “kayabangan” , pero kung sa padamihan din lang ng magagandang nagawa sa bayan kumpara sayo mapapahiya ka lang.
— do you know me personally? how will you know wht i have done for my country?? and excuse me..di dapt ikaw ang mag sasabi nyan… its your peers who should judge you on ur merits.. tama ka mayabang ka nga.. (im still stating a fact.. coming from the mouth of truth).. your like gloria.. mayabang kala nga sya lng ang pagasa ng pinas.. magsama kayo..

March 18th, 2006 at 1:17 pm

no further comment your honor..

March 18th, 2006 at 1:31 pm

ako guilty? saan? haha..dont worry wala akong kakayanan i censor ka.
— “just drop the “KAYO, MO, SYO, NINYO,IKAW, KA etc.”” hmmm… sounds like censorship to me.. mike na mike ng dating hahaha… microcosm of what is hapening now sa pinas… me chilling effect ng eh.. doublespeak

may mga naisumbong na akong mga katiwalian sa gobyerno na hindi naman kailangan sabihin pa.
— oo nga baka ma axa ramirez ka pa.. nagsumbong na nga.. sya pa yung pinagbintangan.. tssktskk..

i’m not taking offense kasi alam ko naman mali mga patutsada mo patungkol sakin eh.
— hmm sinu bang tumitira sayo.. m just challenging your opinion.. under debate its allowable.. your the one making it personal

March 18th, 2006 at 3:02 pm

this one’s cute…on distrust and napocor:

http://money.inq7.net/columns/view_columns.php?yyyy=2006&mon=03&dd=18&file=7

Gido

March 18th, 2006 at 4:09 pm

Anyone who is really interested in the interpretation or analysis of survey results should also read Solita Monsod’s column in today’s Inquirer.

March 18th, 2006 at 9:04 pm

penpen,

About Estrada, if somebody would please read my post again, it says ACCUSED and not CHARGED……yet.

I do also agree that kahit sino ang pumalit we will have the same ole problems. Sa totoo lang, I cannot think of anyone else 100% honest enough.

What I am proposing to the people blogging here is, some definite, real, concrete solutions. Just by reading your posts, most of you are not talking gibberish, may sense naman. Maybe if we could discuss SOLUTIONS instead. There will always be someone siding Gloria, there will always be an opposition.

March 18th, 2006 at 9:15 pm

Sorry I know mahaba na yung last post pero…

Yes Penpen, I do see improvement, although mabagal siguro. It may not be all Gloria’s doing di ba? I visit Manila every year. It is different (good kind) from back in 1998. Mas marami nang mga businesses, Makati is more busy than ever, marami sa islands natin ang asa listahan ng mga foreigners as vacation spots, sobrang popular ng high rise condos.Heard this group of friends at a mall…”basta ako, I’m staying sa call center job ko, I think kaya ko pa ng second job, I will buy that condo in Makati!”. Sa loob-loob ko, good one Mister! Napa-smile naman ako dun.

All I’m saying is as much as anyone would hate to admit it, we are making progress.

March 19th, 2006 at 6:58 pm

Makati is hardly the symbol of the state of the Philippine economy. Even the whole of Metro Manila does not provide a good picture. Its like saying New York epitomizes US economy when there are places like New Orleans. Or that Shanghai is China, or that Mumbai is India. Its not what’s happening in a country’s metropolitan cities that is significant. Its how the country’s wealth is distributed.

The call center employment rate does not significantly affect the country’s unemployment rate (there are enough statistics to show this). The usual process for development is focusing on agricultural development then industrial development (like manufacturing) then a service-oriented economy. We haven’t even reached agricultural development yet.

As for tourism, a foreigner who was thinking of doing business in the Philippines was told by another foreigner: “The Philippines is for vacationing not for doing business”.

Without the OFWs’ billions, I doubt we’d be “progressing” the way we are. They are the driving force of the economy, especially in real estate and SME’s.

Our “progress” is best exemplified by the increasing number of OFWs – who would dare risk being abused abroad or being far away from their families if the local economy was even good enough.

March 19th, 2006 at 11:09 pm

Penpen,
In reality, hindi inatupag at pinagpaguran ng opposition ang impeachment case. They might have put up a good show for the publc during the trial but most of the work for any legal action is done BEFORE you even get to court or in this case, Batasan. Remember, Lozano came into the picture before anyone in the opposition even mentioned filing the impeachment charges. Before that I was wondering why no one was doing it, puro press release but it was all palabok.
Even commenters here were calling for her resignation last year – mga galit, mga sawang sawa , sobrang emotional. We’ve all heard how stubborn and determined GMA is – mana nga daw sa mother nya is what I’ve read.
Let’s cast aside emotions, support impeachment and show a united fron, malayo aabutin nun.

As for a replacement, I like NdC. He hasn’t shown any bias towards his former employer like everyone predicted. Even if its unpopular, he is sticking to his guns because of principio. He’s also hard-working and not making too much press noise about his activities. I also like the idea of making democracy working and having the VP as replacement gives the country and our institutions more credibility and gains us more respect, not in other coutries’ eyes, but in our own eyes.

bakit nga ba wala pa din post dito about the Opposition’s announcement of filing new impeachment proceeedings??

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March 20th, 2006 at 12:06 pm

[…] From PCIJ: SIXTY-FIVE percent of Filipinos think it best for President Arroyo to discontinue from office, with 59 percent preferring that she resign and 6 percent opting for her forcible removal, according to Pulse Asia’s March 2006 survey. read more >> […]

I totally understand your point about not having a degree and making it big (I can attest to that, undergrad lang ako, and so far, maayos naman ang buhay) pero be honest, has she (Roces) really demonstrated any real ability to lead? So far, I’m seeing no real proof, except she’s making us feel sorry for her that FPJ is dead, and sometimes blaming others for his death. I do not belittle people who had not reached college. I’m just really doubtful she can lead us better than Gloria.
— personally i dont think she has any intentions of being this country’s leader.. ergo the lack of proof you speak off.. dont think she has the stomach din for what our leaders are doin now just to retain themselves in power.. now that may be a negative trait for you but to me at least i know that she isnt power hungry she isnt liar and a crook?? dat should count for something right?? i mean if given a choice would you follow an honest person or a crooked one..

About Estrada, if somebody would please read my post again, it says ACCUSED and not CHARGED……yet.
— i stand corrected then.. but if we wanna take this debate further.. why is chavit singson an accused jueteng lord allowed to be governor of ilocos.. while erap a charged but not yet convicted president not allowed to resume his presidency? logical b?

Ping Lacson – of course I’d be enraged, pero I’ll cross the bridge when I get there. Sa ngayon ang thinking ko is, bata pa rin yun, pano kung na-brainwash lang yun, 12 years old?? Tortured by PACC? Di ba nakakatakot ang mga pwede nyang gawin if he is our prez.
— hmmm kaya nga an dyan ang media right.. checks and balances sana na unti unti binubuwag ni glue and her spinsters..even if he’s the president.. he’s answerble to the people dapat.. di ung nagtatago.. sa eo646.. though para sa akin si roco tlga kso namatay sayang..

I do also agree that kahit sino ang pumalit we will have the same ole problems. Sa totoo lang, I cannot think of anyone else 100% honest enough.
— you dont hve to be 100 percent honest.. wag lang garapal.. 30 percent taxpyers money lost to corruption is garapal dont u think??

March 20th, 2006 at 12:22 pm

Penpen,
In reality, hindi inatupag at pinagpaguran ng opposition ang impeachment case. They might have put up a good show for the publc during the trial but most of the work for any legal action is done BEFORE you even get to court or in this case, Batasan. Remember, Lozano came into the picture before anyone in the opposition even mentioned filing the impeachment charges. Before that I was wondering why no one was doing it, puro press release but it was all palabok.
— hmm di kaya pri-niempt ng administrtion by telling lozano to come up with the first complaint? endorsed by another admi tuta marcoleta? and afterwards it is that complaint that was challenged and eventully thrown out by the majority house (beneficiries of fertilizer funds) due to a technichality?? talk about conincidences.. your being played na and still u choose not to see..

Even commenters here were calling for her resignation last year – mga galit, mga sawang sawa , sobrang emotional. We’ve all heard how stubborn and determined GMA is – mana nga daw sa mother nya is what I’ve read.
Let’s cast aside emotions, support impeachment and show a united fron, malayo aabutin nun.
–its hard to not be emotional when you pay your taxes year on year.. then government ask you to pay more.. and all you see are the same structures.. your business being pirated by illegal foreigners.. selling smuggled goods.. your livelihood compromised by corrupt taxmen….all these talk bout changing the constitution para walang check na and they will be free to spend all of your hard earned tax money on themselves.. they who were suppose to work for the people re working for themselves.. hell they’re not even working.. theyre just passing laws to enrich themselves… yup we hve to be united.. we have to be united against these people not just watch as they bleed our country dry…

rascal101

March 20th, 2006 at 4:29 pm

The statistics say that 65% of Filipinos want her out. But whenever we have a President we always want them out. So this is not new. If we Filipinos could not trust anyone for President then we shouldn’t be calling ourselves as one or electing one. Why even bother to rant that you want a President out. Better, get out of the country and leave other people in peace. I would rather have a crooked President rather whom I know rather than an “angel” I don’t.

Let’s face it, politicians have been lying and cheating their butt since the dawn of time. This is nothing new. However, our actions to ensure that we don’t have these kinds of politicians in the near future only emboldens future politicians.

What we see here are just shows. Senators, congressmen threatening to expose this and that. Dailies and tabloids putting this and that in the headlines … inquiries … exposes … fact finding comission etc etc. After a while the expose looses steam and another expose gets introduced. These cycle just goes round and round. Problem is nobody gets to do the time. They don’t get punished. If they do they have their best time in jail living like the elite they are. Hey! We are witness to this. Question is “WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT IT”. If we are just contented to write, report and talk about it them I’m afraid I DO NOT WANT ANY PART OF IT ANYMORE. I’m sick and tired and would rather work my butt earning a living or helping/influencing people the right way to live.

Let’s face it, one person taught the right way to live (living a life centered around Jesus) is better than you or me jabbing at things whose outcome we could hardly influence. I teach/influence and SHOW this person the right way , he teaches/influences and SHOWS another person … etc etc is the right way to go forward. Not, “let’s do some praying” then report to the press, visit “beleaguered” soldiers wanting to go to Edsa … etc etc.

The press always want something to write – they are in the business of writing (this is how they earn their money). And, the more we get involved in this “act” the more we become “couch potatoes” in this “movie”. We also get to make the actors, actresses, producers and employees in act quite rich.

Don’t you get it? This is a “movie”. Not just any movie but the “movie”. The actors and actresses say their lines and we say “oooh” and “aahhh”. And, at the end we “clap”.

Let us think “out of the box” for once and do something that isn’t already scripted. If you think that doing a Dinky is the right thing, I tell you better jump right out of the window. You and I both know that scripted actions are like actions of beggars waiting for scraps.

If we are going to make a change let us first start with ourselves with God. This call is not for people to do a Cory but a real honest to goodness call to heed God.

March 21st, 2006 at 11:48 am

I would rather have a crooked President rather whom I know rather than an “angel” I don’t.
Let’s face it, one person taught the right way to live (living a life centered around Jesus)
— two sentences coming from the same person yet poles apart wid regards to intent.. so you ascribe to the teachings of jesus .. and yet you will allow a person who takes his name in vain to lord over us?? nice…

jester-in-exile

March 21st, 2006 at 8:00 pm

pen,

in reply to your comment: what if God sued? haha

but seriously, the statement “I would rather have a crooked President rather whom I know rather than an ‘angel’ I don’t” seems to condone said President’s crookedness, and if i recall correctly, the Christ got irate over crooked people in the temple. contrast? i should think so.

March 23rd, 2006 at 3:39 pm

nice satire jester.. =) more more…

March 24th, 2006 at 8:25 am

salamat. hehe

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