March 17, 2006 · Posted in: In the News

Not a walk in the park

(UPDATED) FOR FORMER Social Welfare Secretary Corazon “Dinky” Soliman and online activist Vicente Romano, it was not quite a walk in the park. Two two were arrested by police early this evening for leading a “flash mob,” a group of about 30 people wearing black T-shirts that said, “Patalsikin na, now na.” They were released at about midnight to the custody of former President Corazon C. Aquino.

The group gathered at 6 p.m. at the Aristocrat Restaurant, right across the Baywalk on Roxas Boulevard. They had intended to march across the street to the nearby Rajah Solaiman Park to make the “thumbs down” sign and then disperse. This was the third time the anti-Arroyo Black and White Movement held its Black Friday protests, with small groups clad in black gathering in public places to stage quiet and symbolic protests.

Some commentators have found the flash mobs ridiculous, especially as the first protest was held at the Starbucks coffeeshop on ritzy Ayala Ave. The protests, however, were also a way to elude the current ban on rallies. Sure enough, the police soon wisened up. Policewomen arrested Soliman and Romano as they crossed over to the park and brought them to the nearby headquarters of the Western Police District, where they were charged with illegal assembly.

“They made a big boo-boo here,” said Black and White convenor Gerry Kaimo, an independent record producer and online activist. “It was a non-event. We were just doing what we have been doing the last three Fridays. We wear black, 20 to 30 people, and we hardly got any media attention. Now the media is covering it and following us wherever we go. It became a big issue.”

“They even have a SWAT team outside WPD,” said Kaimo, who was at the police headquarters. “There’s even an APC (armored personnel carrier) in the compound and there are policemen carrying high-powered guns. They’re beefing up security here. Across the street, there are 12 policemen with Armalites. Police don’t usually carry this kind of firepower. I don’t know what they were expecting.”

Since the state of emergency was proclaimed last month, the government has strictly enforced the ban on rallies. No demonstrations are allowed unless they have permits and so far, no permits have been granted.

The Black and White Movement was formed last year, shortly after the release of the “Hello, Garci” recordings, which thrust the presidency into an election fraud scandal. The movement has called for the president’s resignation and the convening of an Interim Council of Leaders to take over during the transition to a new government. (Read the group’s manifesto here). Its convenors include the likes of former Makati Business Club executive director Guillermo Luz, IT expert Gus Lagman, former singer Leah Navarro, and activist and NGO leader Karen Tanada. Louie and Triccie Sison, both associated with 2004 presidential candidate Eddie Villanueva, were among the original convenors but were replaced by former economic planning secretary Cielito Habito.

Black and White supporters, including President Aquino, massed up at the police headquarters this evening to show their support. Both Soliman and Romano underwent inquest proceedings at the Manila City Hall and were released after their lawyers Marvic Leonon, Marlon Manuel, and Florencio “Butch” Abad asked that they be released to Aquino’s custody.

Late this morning, the Black and White Movement’s blog was apparently hacked, Kaimo said. It remains inaccessible.

54 Responses to Not a walk in the park

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MitaMS

March 17th, 2006 at 11:39 pm

“It was a non-event. We were just doing what we have been doing the last three Fridays. We wear black, 20 to 30 people, and we hardly got any media attention. Now the media is covering it and following us wherever we go. It became a big issue.”

So the assembly had the desired effect…and now it’s even become controversial. Good for BWM, right?

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Partisanong Lagalag

March 17th, 2006 at 11:49 pm

The government is now suffering from extreme Paranoia.

Any group of 30 people wearing the same shirt color strolling the park or simply enjoying a drink in a restaurant can now be considered an illegal assembly. What next, having the same hairdo is illegal?

Who said we are not in a Martial Law?

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primo

March 18th, 2006 at 12:10 am

yay ba’t pati yung site ng bw forbidden… ang alam ko tech guy yang si mang enteng..

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ryebosco

March 18th, 2006 at 12:27 am

Dios ko, Black and White Movement…nakaka-inis talaga kayo. Ang aking bagong itim na gym outfit hindi ko na magamit sa katangahan ninyo.

(Puede bang i-sue ang Black and White in case I can’t return the clothes?)

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primo

March 18th, 2006 at 12:31 am

rye kaw ba si benign0 nag palit anyo kba? nabading ka na ba?

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jade

March 18th, 2006 at 12:32 am

ryebosco:
pwde pa naman black shirt… pero mas mabuti PLAIN na lang.. kasi kung may nakasulat , baka akala si GMA ang tinutukoy mo.

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schumey

March 18th, 2006 at 3:31 am

Akala ko ba ay bawal kapag istorbo ka sa kalye? Ang Baywalk ba extension na rin ng Malakanyang? Si Atienza talaga, pumapel na naman. Hoy Mayordoma Achengza, intindihin mo yung laganap na holdapan sa Recto at yang mga illegal aliens sa 168 Mall na binigyan niyo ng business permits. Akala ko si Mayor Eusebio lang ang may sabit. Huwag ka nang magmalinis ha? Kung ganyan lang sana kabilis ang reaction ng kapulisan dun sa Ultra, wala sanang nasawi. Pati korte ngayon ay sunudsunuran na rin sa palasyo, yung ginamit na batas ay panahon pa ni Marcos na na-repeal nuong 1987.

Sa sobrang “praning” ay kung anu-anong batas ang ginagamit ng DOJ. Baka sa susunod ay batas pa nung Spanish era ang gagamitin niyan. Paurong talaga itong administrasyong ito. Panay kasi ang pakinig niyo kay Craulo Gonzales na nag-sesecond childhood na.

Hindi kami mga tanga, hoy!

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baycas

March 18th, 2006 at 6:45 am

the police wants lawful dissent to park from the walk.

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polsjs

March 18th, 2006 at 7:06 am

Test your freedoms.

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scud_1975

March 18th, 2006 at 10:02 am

“They even have a SWAT team outside WPD,” said Kaimo, who was at the police headquarters. “There’s even an APC (armored personnel carrier) in the compound and there are policemen carrying high-powered guns. They’re beefing up security here. Across the street, there are 12 policemen with Armalites. Police don’t usually carry this kind of firepower. I don’t know what they were expecting.”

Ikaw talaga Kaimo..nag-aabang lang ang mga pulis sa kung ano man ang mangyayari. Hindi naman sila paranoid, proactive lang.

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Tet

March 18th, 2006 at 10:06 am

Sane people anywhere in the Philippines wear black only on Fridays. (Be sure it is only plain black- with white letters on the lower portion which can be tucked in and out.) What say you?

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MitaMS

March 18th, 2006 at 12:42 pm

sandali…may mga naka-post sa BWM website calling people to a protest dun eh…diba kelangan ng permit yon kahit 5 lang sumipot sa protest?
quote from this post “The protests, however, were also a way to elude the current ban on rallies. Sure enough, the police soon wisened up”

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lokalokang matino

March 18th, 2006 at 1:13 pm

Let the police do their worse, these people dont realize they’re the multiplier of gloria haters. They’re the ones digging gloria arroyo’s grave. and they make this grave deeper and bigger. Deeper and bigger enough to accomodate them excluding those conscience striken police. They’re (conscience striken police) just watching and waiting.

Sobra praneng na talaga mga alepores ni gloria.

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penpenpen88

March 18th, 2006 at 1:38 pm

Sane people anywhere in the Philippines wear black only on Fridays. (Be sure it is only plain black- with white letters on the lower portion which can be tucked in and out.) What say you?
— im agreeable to that. black shirt white letters right?? spread the word

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dsaint

March 18th, 2006 at 2:02 pm

Yes let’s wear black shirts every Fridays with white letters in front:

OUST GMA, NOW NA!!!

and at the back of the shirt:

“I’m sorry, I made a lapse in my judgement.”

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scud_1975

March 18th, 2006 at 2:37 pm

“They made a big boo-boo here,” said Black and White convenor Gerry Kaimo, an independent record producer and online activist. “It was a non-event. We were just doing what we have been doing the last three Fridays. We wear black, 20 to 30 people, and we hardly got any media attention. Now the media is covering it and following us wherever we go. It became a big issue.”

-HAPPY NOW, GERRY?

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baycas

March 18th, 2006 at 2:54 pm

“proactive,” yes, that’s the word…they should have been like that last feb 4 in pasig city…

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johnmarzan

March 18th, 2006 at 4:10 pm

“Sane people anywhere in the Philippines wear black only on Fridays. (Be sure it is only plain black- with white letters on the lower portion which can be tucked in and out.) What say you?”

good idea tet.

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lbrto

March 18th, 2006 at 5:57 pm

Hey guys…

I think you miss one main point here…

Legally speaking, if Dinky Soliman and Vic Romano were arrested, then later on inquested, for what violation?

Since I stumbled on this report yesterday, I was wacking my brains out to come up with possible violations justifying their arrests…

Illegal assembly? Why? Is getting together in one place to discuss things or simply socialize NOW necessitates PRIOR PERMIT from the government??? Mga kapatid such idea is STUPID and SICKENING!!!

Have our democratic society metamorphosized into an authoritarian rule???

Ok so much for that option…

Ano pa iba…

They were arrested for disturbing peace and order???

Sus Ginoo!!! Rowdy ba yung mga nandun sa Baywalk para arestuhin ang kanilang convenor???

For our government officials who had a hand on that incident…

Please naman…

BE CREATIVE in your activities trying to muzzle the public’s RIGHT TO EXPRESS DISSENT!!!

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Sheila Coronel

March 18th, 2006 at 7:50 pm

Some corrections. Bill Luz is still executive director of the Makati Business Club. Louie and Triccie Sison were among the original convenors of the Black and White Movement. But they were replaced by former economic planning secretary Cielito Habito.

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obet

March 18th, 2006 at 8:58 pm

May right di naman si Dinky to express kung ano ang saloobin nya at kung wala rin namang naiistorbo sa ginagawa nila. Ang masama lang, ginagawa naman nilang tanga ang mga Pilipino sa pagsasabing di naman si Gloria ang pinatatalsik nila!. Napaka obvious naman.

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Jon Mariano

March 18th, 2006 at 9:33 pm

It was a tactical mistake by the police…Maybe they’re just going to say that they took Dinky and Enteng away for their safety? (remember Baraquel?)

Effects of the apprehension:
1. Free publicity for BnW
2. More media coverage from now on
3. Some cases of illegal arrest against the police
4. More people joining the Friday actions
5. More people showing support (by honking horns, thumbs up sign, etc.)

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coldfeet

March 18th, 2006 at 9:41 pm

Guys…. police did a lousy job explaining on what they are doing.. hindi yata marunong sumagot. For Dinky naman., obvious na ginagawa nu.. hindi pa pinanindigan.. mas kakahiya…

at sa gusto pang sumama.. pag kasama ninyo si Dinky at kau madadakip.. hindi kau aakuin na kasama… sinungaling eh.. nakipag group sex lang siya.. hehehe.. laswang matanda…

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luzviminda

March 19th, 2006 at 8:07 am

Mas maganda kung ang ilalagay sa T-shirt eh…’IBAGSAK at IKULONG ang MANDARAYA, SINUNGALING AT MAGNANAKAW! …Siguro naman di na huhulihin ng mga pulis ang mga may suot nun kahit na marami sila dahil maganda ang adhikain…meaning these people are against these CRIMES! …At hindi naman sasabihin ng mga pulis at Raul Gonzales na si GMA at tinutukoy!…Hehehe! Bato-bato sa langit ang tamaan huwag magagalit

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Helga

March 19th, 2006 at 2:24 pm

Hello Sheila, have a couple more details regarding our convenors – Louie and Triccie are still in touch with us, Bangon assigned both Ciel Habito and Luigi Tabuena as convenor reps. The others are July Teehankee and Chito Gascon (NIPS), Manuel Quezon III (Citizens For Truth), Beth Yang (Pilipina/NPC), Roy Calfoforo (PASCRES), and Jinggoy Candelaria (PHILCOS).

Jon, the cops inavertently turned a molehill into a mountain. Tet, fantastic idea about the shirts with “below the belt” slogans. May we use it, please?

Yes, MitaMs, our actions are called Black Friday Protests – but they are silent protests. No banners, placards, chanting or yelling like during regular rallies.

The tee shirt says “PATALSIKIN NA! NOW NA!”. You can attach any name of any person or politician you believe is corrupt – Gloria, Mike or Mikee Arroyo, for example. None of us were trying to avoid saying Gloria – the cops were questioning the slogan and our wearing the tee shirts. Since when was that illegal? We are willing to face justice for our actions, for as long as the accusations are justified.

Some food for thought – if it is illegal to stroll along any sidewalk with your friends while wearing the same tee shirts, please cite the law. Didn’t Gloria give out tons of tees during elections? If it is illegal to assemble with a group of friends wearing the same oufit, then we could also say that 50 cops wearing the same oufit assembling in one place is an illegal assembly. Without a permit.

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johnmarzan

March 19th, 2006 at 2:50 pm

Sane people anywhere in the Philippines wear black only on Fridays. (Be sure it is only plain black- with white letters on the lower portion which can be tucked in and out.) What say you?

Hi Tet, Helga of BnW liked your idea.

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lbrto

March 19th, 2006 at 8:25 pm

A little note…

I think it is cowardice to hide our protest against GMA.

Bakit kailangan pang naka-tuck in ang may tatak? Besides, why not distribute t-shirts to people who want to protest GMA and ask them to use it every friday. Kahit hindi sila pumunta sa isang specific place…

Halimbawa mamimili sila sa grocery suot nila yun… Namamasyal sila, suot nila yun… Why should we be afraid of the police for donning a shirt that criticizes GMA?

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MitaMS

March 19th, 2006 at 10:51 pm

Why OUST? Why not support the opposition congressmen in their bid to impeach the president??? It’s just a couple of months of waiting…more time has passed and NOTHING has happened. The people are not going out on the street in droves. Maybe it’s time to admit this OUST movement is NOT working.

I am not FOR or AGAINST anyone. But we all have got to start facing reality here and see things for what they are. STREET protests and ousting another president is not flying with majority of the population and that’s why it’s not taking off. It’s wasted energy, resources that could go to better use supporting an impeachment.

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MitaMS

March 19th, 2006 at 11:29 pm

helga,
you weren’t just walking in the park, that’s not the point. even if no one was shouting, by the fact that you made a public announcement in the website for people to join the “protest.” makes it a rally because you RALLIED the people to your cause…or tried to anyway.

no matter what you insist on calling it or what methods you innovate – yun na yon. Even the dictionary’s definition will support that. will you resort to lying like the woman you are protesting against?

It’s time to call a spade a spade. Rallying and/or protesting is not making the cut. People are not coming out for one reason or another.

Besides, you had the Starbuck’s fiasco, and now the Baywalk “protest” with your own Baywalk “beauty” – and that rather lame rallying cry of “patalsikin na, now na” even if you write it in ALL CAPS and make the font bold…it’s still LAME.

IT’s NOT WORKING and it muddles the issues…there’s ChaCha. there’s the impeachment….those are more important issues that WILL NOT GO AWAY.

Now, you can read this post and get mad at the person who wrote it because I contradicted you, so you can turn a blind eye to everything I wrote here. Or you can read it with a discerning eye and a cool, clear mind and see I can be both right and wrong – in your eyes.

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Helga

March 20th, 2006 at 1:26 am

Ay, MitaMs, I will not belabor your point, you are quite well cemented in it anyway.

Just so you know, the Black Friday Protest is only one of our initiatives among many. Do yourself a favor and visit our blogs and website, read the newspapers, and watch TV news to see what we’ve been up to. And once again, I will exercise my freedom to disagree with you by saying that our protest IS working – we have gotten requests for tee shirts from here and abroad, so we are happy to announce that in a few days, artwork speed and spec check notwithstanding, we will be providing free downloads of all our Black Friday Protest collaterals on all our sites.

Oh, before I forget – we never got to “walk in the park”. I would check my facts, if I were you.

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MitaMS

March 20th, 2006 at 3:53 am

Helga,
okay…looks like you chose to turn a blind eye to what I was saying. I do go to your website and several blogs and that’s why I had a comment that would probably even have been helpful to you…but, as you chose to turn a blind eye….fine.

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luzviminda

March 20th, 2006 at 6:09 am

MitaMS,
Sa isang bansang may DEMOKRASYA, HINDI BAWAL O ILEGAL ang MAGPROTESTA. As long as it is peaceful. And the Philippines is a demoratic country. Sa mga NAGMAMALASAKIT SA ATING DEMOKRASYA, HINDI MASAMA ANG KUMALABAN sa mga KAMALIAN ng administrasyon ni Arroyo. MARAMING MGA PROTESTA DAHIL MARAMING KAMALIAN at KAWALANGHIYAANG GINAGAWA ANG ADMINISTRASYON NI ARROYO. Unless na PUMAPAYAG KANG WINAWALANGHIYA KA!

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MitaMS

March 20th, 2006 at 9:05 am

luzviminda,
hindi ko sinabing bawal ang lumaban..

sa tingin mo ba, ang laban na walang pupuntahan sulit sa pagod at perang gagastusin. Is it worth it?
Choose your battles, study it and make realistic plans that can win you the battle – then that would be worth it. Kung laban nang laban na walang magandang plano at talo ang kalalabasan – para ka lang manok na pinugutan ng ulo.

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freewheel

March 20th, 2006 at 10:12 am

mitaMs, if i may;

let us allow BnW the benefit of the doubt. u have expressed ur reservations, leave it there.

there is a fine distinction between wars and battles, i. e. one may win most of his battles but still lost the war- american revolution is full of specific examples.

impeachment is a battle, so is with wearing black tees on fridays, and rallies, etc. one may have his specific preference based on the person’s or group orientation, point-of-view, and perspective.

obviously, u prefer impeachment, others want another form or combination of each. some, want to engage in all of these.

i prefer to ask friends though, what is your war?

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penpenpen88

March 20th, 2006 at 11:32 am

sa tingin mo ba, ang laban na walang pupuntahan sulit sa pagod at perang gagastusin. Is it worth it?
— well at least yung perang ginagastos nila eh.. sa kanila.. di tulad ng mahal na mahal (costly) nating pangulo na pera natin ang ginagastos para sa mga propaganda nya.. tsk.. tsk.. i suggest you watch V for vendetta kinda mirrors what our republic is like right now..

Choose your battles, study it and make realistic plans that can win you the battle – then that would be worth it. Kung laban nang laban na walang magandang plano at talo ang kalalabasan – para ka lang manok na pinugutan ng ulo..
— defferent strokes for different folks.. some choose to express dissent thru wearing black t-shirts.. some thru filing impeachment cases.. if nag coordinate mga yan bka sabihin pa ni glue na spin doctors magkakonchaba mg yan.. mga coup plotters di ba??..

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dimasalang

March 20th, 2006 at 12:35 pm

Before i join in the discussion it must emphasize an important thing in this article. What happened to Dinky and Risa Baraquel is that they were arrested without formal charges. Meaning, they were hauled forcibly (or invited) even though they were not breaking any laws. The no-rally, no permit policy only has a basis for protests that may obstruct traffic, or they pose a clear and present danger to vital gov’t offices. In the case of Dinky neither two conditions existed, so a permit is not required for their silent protest.

If ever we get arrested we must first ask the officers what are our charges, if cannot cite any then we cannot be arrested.

Mita,

We cannot say that street protests are futile. It is like a slap in the face of those who continously march. We must acknowledge the fact that these people are sacrificing their time, effort, money and physical well-being by doing what they think seems best. We must remember that there are many ways to win a fight.

As for supporting the opposition, im not really bent on supporting the opposition as a whole because there are a lot of questionable figures in the opposition. Mga pulitiko yan e, at mayroon silang kanya-kanyang motibo. Tsaka, the fight doesn’t end with Gloria’s impeachment. This struggle is not a short-sighted struggle whose only objective is to impeach Gloria and her cohorts. The underlying objective which drives this struggle is to revise this rotten system that has produced the likes of Gloria and the rest. If not, then impeaching Gloria would have been for nothing because another Gloria will inevitably surface and it would only be a vicious political cycle, within which the Filipino masses will undoubtedly be greatest victims.

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lutongmakaw

March 20th, 2006 at 1:41 pm

I just could not understand the interpretation of illegal assembly as contemplated by the police in effecting the arrest of BWM members while strolling the baywalk.

The police said the black shirt with the slogan “Patalsikin na —Now na” is self explanatory as they were obviously anti-GMA. Well maybe another case of CPR in action…

Since when a protest action without disturbing the community became an illegal assembly. Be careful…you may be the next victim.

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dimasalang

March 20th, 2006 at 2:35 pm

“The police said the black shirt with the slogan “Patalsikin na —Now na” is self explanatory as they were obviously anti-GMA.”

This is another excuse for the police to make the arrest. They are only law enforcers. They do not have the right to interpret or make their own opinions or judgments about the law.

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MitaMS

March 20th, 2006 at 2:48 pm

you need a permit. if you don’t have one, your assembly is against the law.

maski sa america, bastion of democracy “daw” ganun din ang law. you need a permit before you can assemble.

kaya nga rally capital ang makati cause binay has always been very liberal with issuing rally permits.

in the case of BWM, there was a public call for people to come, with instructions. if that’s not a rally – i don’t know what is.

problem is, the police are not clear about what they’re doing when they’re doing it…the explanation comes after.

If there’s a lawyer who can dispute this, PLEASE correct me if I’m wrong…I’ll welcome the clarification.

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lbrto

March 20th, 2006 at 4:06 pm

Teka muna….

Not trying to be a lawyer here but got this issue to iron out here…

Ano ba ang purpose ng prior permit for a rally? Is it to put up prior restraint to protesting groups so that those in power can have a means to prevent further escalation of conflict?

Or is it in order to protect the protesting public from possible harm caused by conflict that might arise if mass actions are not properly policed?

If it is the former, then what is the use of the use of “Sec.4 Art. II of the constitution? Doesn’t the provision mandates the protection of an individual for free speech, grievance and redress?

So what can be the violation of those arrested if they are only excercising their God-given and Constitutionally mandated rights???

If it is the latter, what permit is necessary for a group of people gathering in a place to sip coffee while making a political statement???

Hindi po ako abogado kaya pasensya na po at hanggang dito lang ang paliwanag ko…

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dimasalang

March 20th, 2006 at 5:52 pm

Mita,

An assembly per se, cannot be deemed illegal because we have the basic right of free speech and assembly. If you and your friends called each other up to meet somewhere, then that is an assembly already. You went to the mall and by coincidence all of you were wearing the same black shirt. That is an assembly. Can you be arrested with these circumstances?

The provisions for the no-rally, no permit policy is that a permit must be secured for rallies posing a clear and present danger for the location of the rally (e.g. in front of the Supreme Court, in front of the american embassy, etc.) or that they will inconvenience the riding public (e.g. in EDSA, Ayala, etc.). Were these things present at Baywalk? No. They planned to walk along the sidewalk and wherein no critical gov’t office is nearby.

Ok, there was a call made by the BWM for an assembly in Baywalk. However there was no rally. No streamers were held, no shouting, no singing were done. They were planning to plainly walk along Manila Bay, wearing the clothes they wanted to wear at that time. So this was not an active protest. In short, no laws were broken. If the police are trying to invent charges for these people just to give them a reason to arrest them, then that is not their duty anymore. What they should have done is, if they believe that the law is vague, they should have a judge interpret the law for them, secure a court order and then present this to the people in Baywalk then if they still went through despite the court order, arrest them. That is called due-process.

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jr_lad

March 20th, 2006 at 7:24 pm

luzviminda said,
March 19, 2006 @ 8:07 am

“Mas maganda kung ang ilalagay sa T-shirt eh…’IBAGSAK at IKULONG ang MANDARAYA, SINUNGALING AT MAGNANAKAW! …Siguro naman di na huhulihin ng mga pulis ang mga may suot nun kahit na marami sila dahil maganda ang adhikain…meaning these people are against these CRIMES! …At hindi naman sasabihin ng mga pulis at Raul Gonzales na si GMA at tinutukoy!…Hehehe! Bato-bato sa langit ang tamaan huwag magagalit”.

magandang suhestiyong yan luzviminda. palagay ko naman baka payagan na dahil lahat naman tayo pati mga pulis na yan ay kontra sa mga MANDARAYA, SINUNGALING at MAGNANAKAW. unless na sila yung tinatamaan kaya ayaw nilang makita yan. :)

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jester-in-exile

March 20th, 2006 at 7:49 pm

quoted from Malaya website story “Palace says Dinky meant to provoke”
(http://www.malaya.com.ph/mar20/news2.htm):

“He (presidential adviser for political affairs Gabriel Claudio) expressed confidence the police would be able to justify the arrest.

” ‘Wala silang permit. Iyung sinabi nilang political assembly, maraming forms iyun. Iyung ginagawa naman nila ay pambabastos na sa gobyerno,’ he said.”

first thing: “He expressed confidence the police would be able to justify the arrest.”

“justify?” does this mean that the cops and claudio are not aware of what the law does and does not allow?

maybe he should ask joker arroyo and biazon’s opinion (http://news.inq7.net/nation/index.php?index=1&story_id=69976)

second thing: “pambabastos sa gobyerno”… personally, i see no reason how or why it is wrong for someone to disrespect a disreputable government for as long as one ensures no laws are broken.

perhaps claudio believes that respect is due GMA’s administration by being the de facto government; who cares about it’s legitimacy? it IS. fine. so can we respect the office, and not the officeholder?

claudio must not know the truism “respect is earned.”

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jr_lad

March 20th, 2006 at 7:59 pm

ang ginamit na dahilan ng mga pulis sa paghuli kina soliman ay BP 880 link: http://www.lawphil.net/statutes/bataspam/bp1985/bp_880_1985.html; http://www.pcij.org/blog/?p=445

this was disputed already by CHR as illegal and has no constitutional basis. http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=33208.

pagkakaalala ko noon sa mga kontra rallyist, sabi nila nakakakaistorbo mga eto sa daan. anarkiya daw. economic sabotage pa. etong ginagawa bang “flash mob” ng BWM ay nakakaistorbo sa daan? were anyone inconvenienced by their acts (si glue-ria lang ata)? anarkiya na ba eto? bawal na bang mag-assemble? kung mamamasyal pala kaming 5 na magkafratmates diyan sa baywalk suot-suot ang aming mga frat t-shirts (incidentally black also w/ a brotherhood logo) kami pala ay huhulihin na rin dahil kailangan pa naming kumuha ng permit. and let’s say kung maglalagay ako sa isang blogsite ng anunsiyong “punta tayo sa luneta (a public place) magkita-kita tayo doon”, eto ay bawal na rin. ganon ba yun? dapat pala solo flight na ang mga lakad ng mga tao ngayon para hindi mapagbintang nag-iilegal assembly tayo.

here’s what dan mariano has to say about dinky’s “flash mob”. http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=33164

“ …Steven Rood described a flash mob as “safe, NONCONFRONTATIONAL and within the bounds of the law, even under a repressive one like [Presidential Proclamation] 1017. The mere ‘flash’ gathering of the people is the expression of protest.”…”

funny, some bloggers here previously are dismissing the move of BWM as “crazy, fad, kid’s stuff, gimik, ineffective idea, cheap stunts, etc.” but suddenly commenting after dinky’s arrest that their act was illegal since they don’t have a permit and so what the police did is justified. to the rescue again? hehehe.

and for those who are saying that rallies, demonstrations or protests are primitive moves happening only in the phils, check out the violent demonstrations happening now in France. is it really a loosing cause? http://www.libcom.org/blog/

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jester-in-exile

March 20th, 2006 at 8:08 pm

“this (BP880) was disputed already by CHR as illegal and has no constitutional basis.”

question (i’m no lawyer): if i’m arrested based on an illegal and unconstitutional law, decree, proclamation, instruction, general order or something, would that not be a human rights violation? could i perhaps elevate it to the UNCHR or something, considering the person who violated my rights is the highest (okay, the lowest) official of the land?

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jr_lad

March 20th, 2006 at 9:53 pm

kadugo,

i heard dinky and her group are exactly doing just that. file a complaint to CHR. but we know based on previous HR complaints what the usual attitude of this de facto govt to such complaints are. while the CHR and even UNCHR seem so powerless about these violations.

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coldfeet said,
March 18, 2006 @ 9:41 pm

Guys…. police did a lousy job explaining on what they are doing.. hindi yata marunong sumagot. For Dinky naman., obvious na ginagawa nu.. hindi pa pinanindigan.. mas kakahiya…

at sa gusto pang sumama.. pag kasama ninyo si Dinky at kau madadakip.. hindi kau aakuin na kasama… sinungaling eh.. nakipag group sex lang siya.. hehehe.. laswang matanda…

>>>i think etong comment na ito ang malaswa. subrang below the belt. hindi ba dapat i-ban ang ganito mr. alecks?

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MitaMS

March 20th, 2006 at 10:37 pm

dimasalang, are you a lawyer? just asking for clarification…I’m not..

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MitaMS

March 21st, 2006 at 4:35 am

dimasalang,
iba naman example mo sa BWM…may announcement sila sa website nila eh. hindi coincidental lang na nagka-umpok umpok ang mga nakaitim sa baywalk…aminin na natin yon.

tingin ko nga tong gimik na to, dahil na din sa kabalastugan ng mga pulis, was even good for them because of the arrest…controversial na…kumikita na kumbaga. i even had the first comment in this thread and what I said is…good for BWM. pinansin na din sila…kahit 20-30 people lang daw andun.

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naykika

March 21st, 2006 at 5:09 am

the best way to settle the issues if and when the cops had charged any member/members of the group for any violation and have the charges challenge in the proper court of law. then and then only we can find out if there were basis for the police actions and if there were none then the BWM can sue the police for unlawfull acts. Isn’t it the law supposed to work?

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dimasalang

March 21st, 2006 at 10:07 am

Mita,

im not a lawyer…however i’ve talked to several lawyers because they were quite alarmed when Dinky was arrested by the police.

According to them, the protest that was made by the BWM is not the same kind of protest that was under the no permit, no rally policy. Meaning, it is something beyond the jurisdiction of this policy. Therefore, they cannot be held liable under this law. The policy is only there to regulate active protests.

Yes, there was a call made by the BWM, but it was clear that they never broke any laws.

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lbrto

March 21st, 2006 at 10:42 am

Mag-aral na rin kaya tayo ng law…Hehehe…

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penpenpen88

March 21st, 2006 at 11:09 am

haha dami na ng lawyers natin dito sa phils in the first place.. dami ring lawyers serving in government.. where did dat get us?? puro technicalities lng po… legal jargon etc.. all talk no action… kakapagod just watching em blab bout the law on tv.. think we need other professionsal like doctors, scientists agriculturists humanists in government as well as in society…. tama na yung mga lawyers…

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INSIDE PCIJ: Stories behind our stories » Batas Pambansa Bilang 880

March 21st, 2006 at 7:08 pm

[…] Passed by the rubberstamp Batasan Pambansa, BP 880 — also known as the Public Assembly Act of 1985 — has gained currency of late, especially in the aftermath of the declaration of a state of national emergency last February 24. Though Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo lifted the emergency proclamation a week later, the law has been used by the police as basis for subsequently arresting and charging anti-Arroyo protesters who have since been staging weekly rallies and demonstrations. The latest to be charged for violation of BP 880 were former social welfare secretary Dinky Soliman and Vicente Romano III, one of the leaders of the Black and White Movement. […]

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clark

March 22nd, 2006 at 1:56 pm

Ang pikon talo,ang magreact guilty!

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