Messing with the party list

Headline says – BILLIONS IN FARM FUNDS USED FOR ARROYO CAMPAIGN! anak ka ng tatay mo… I GUESS YOUR OWN FATHER WOULD BE ASHAMED TO HAVE HAD YOU! We have been hearing about these in the past and now made official, we can only wonder and CRY that the bankcruptcy of once financially stable OWWA office… is brought about by a mere SMALL but TERRIBLE lady. The lady with an innocent, insensitive and icey smile. Hope you ENJOY the fruits of your LABOR, pwe!

My unsolicited advice – please publish the names of the 103 congressmen and officials who took slice of the this billions pie.

Am i proud to be a filipino? No. It is going to be an uphill battle to get us to be morally upright. Forget GMA and so many of these people – they are where they are because — If we are to become an Asian Tiger, we need to be individually accountable. We need to be accountable, and holler when people are doing wrong.

Well folks, that’s what we get for being proud for proud’s sake. Maybe it’s about time we put pride in its proper place — in the context of achievement as a CONCRETE basis for pride.

Tama na ang mga ‘proud to be Pinoy’ crap na yan. We have to ACHIEVE first as a nation before we can be proud.

For an example of that empty pride I speak of, check this out:

http://www.geocities.com/benign0/agr-disagr/16-1-ideo.html

Excerpt:

“We need to have something that would prove that the Philippine society is just more than an historical or fortuitous accident in order to justify its continued existence. We have to formulate some deeper ideology shared by all filipinos that would inspire personal or moral conviction beyond mere emotionalism or sentimentalism. Patriotism could only be sustained if it’s rooted on more timeless principles and yet peculiar only to the filipino people. Anything else, would be fleeting.”

I think I should confess and ask God to forgive me for murdering PGMA and her allies – in my mind. That’s what I want to do. Honestly. If only to get rid of them, after making them pay for their crimes to the people.

When can we really have true leaders? Leaders who are true servants of the people. Leaders who will not enrich themselves while in office. I remember one political candidate who is not from the elite class who vowed to have himself killed by musketry if he becomes wealthy after winning. Sana ganito talaga ang mangyari. Very ideal. Bakit kaya sina Randy David, Oscar Orbos … di maging mga senador o presidente kaya?

Mga Kababayan I want to share with you Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf famous ideology and principle.

“Let us now Judge Gloria, for you are not a Judge” (hehehehe)

Now for the serious one……..

“Forgiving Gloria Is God’s DUTY, Our Job Is Simply To Arrange The Meeting”

Don’t you agree?

I CALL FOR SNAP ELECTION, magka-alam alam lang kung sino talaga ang dapat na maupo sa bansa nating bankarote na nga eh natatapat pa sa mga Gahaman Maupo Agad, at Gahaman Magpayaman Agad.

Consitutional Successor si Noli, pero diba RUNNING MATE sila? Hindi kaya CHEAT MATES din sila so anong gagawin natin pagka-IMPEACH kay Gloria IMPEACH Noli aba, baka maging Republic of Impeachment na tayo niyan or WORSE, BANANA (republic) IMPEACHED THROUGH HOOLIGAN COHORTS sama ng acronym BITCH.

If only Teodoro Benigno is still Alive…. Phil Star will be still kicking…. I lost hope to the Philstar our family newspaper since elementary.

ating basahin ito.. ganda may pag asa….. di gaya ng isang nagpost d2 puro crap.. oo yung nag post d2 na gumagawa ng mga artikulo dun sa geocities.com..

this is worth reading.. from a very respected professor..

http://news.inq7.net/opinion/index.php?index=2&story_id=48321&col=60

As I understand that our country is comprising 7,100 islands, with all the (political) noise I’ve heard and read it seems that it is centered only in the capital. Does this means that the whole country are decided at the capital only? Maski anong ingay ang gagawin ninyo diyan hindi ninyo basta-basta makumbinsi ang natitirang lugar na kinabibilangan ng buong bayan. This was proven for so many times unless otherwise it will be again in martial rule. Even the coup de etat that had been exercised for so many times during so many country leaders, it doesn’t took effectively. Kabayan, ang geographical situations and locations of the 7,100 islands of our country is a big factor that whatever noise started at the capital will end up at the same level. With regards to poverty we cannot blame anyone but we ourselves are the main contributors of it. In what reason that I said so? Because, we are easily fooled by our sweet talking politician who made good promises during campaign period. Where in the world you can find that majority of the country leaders, lawmakers, etc., are former actors, actresses, showbiz personalities, basketball superstars? Answer: Only in da pilipins. Kabayan, please do not expect anything from these politicians. No one can erode corruption that is what politics is all about. If there’s any of it then it would not attract these celebrities turn politicians. Si o No?

Siguro magkaroon lang ng pagbabago ang bansa natin kun ang isang imposible mangyayari. Na mapapalitan ng bagong let us say new breed of politicians that doesn’t came from a family of politicians. Si Mr., si Mrs., si Junior, si bayaw, si pamangkin, si insan, pati na ang mga apo ay puro may posisyon na. Kaya imposible ngang mangyayari dahil ayaw na nilang bitawan ang impluwensang kanilang pinaghirapang ma build up. Well anyway, natural lang sa kustombre nating pilipino ang clanish di ba? So good luck na lang Juan de la Cruz.

At yung umaasa na sana makaupo si Ka Juan or Ka Pedro na kilalang mabuting tao hindi corrupt ay makapagbuti at magbigay nang pagbabago sa bayan. Mali kabayan dahil pag naupo na ang una or first order of business nila ay babaguhin nila ang buhay nila at sasabay na sila sa lipad ng mga traditional politicians siyempre ibinot mo e! Hindi ang inaasahan mong pagbabago sa ating bayan. It is just a routine, take your time and review some of them who are presently at the helm of power. Few of them are like Ka Juan and ka Pedro before fighting and crusading for the poor before their election. Whom we put our trust and hope. Look at them now you might even be confuse of what they are fighting for.

Kaya kabayan maski anong simbuti ng sinuman habang wala pa siya sa kapangyarihan pagdating ng araw bigla lang itong magbabago na mas mabilis pa sa instant coffe.

a cynic that is a breath of fresh air????

the VICTORY???? of GMA???? a stroke of good luck???? an epiphany????

implying that to expect honesty and decency and efficiency from our goverment is to expect “superhuman capacities from our leaders”?????????????

yan ang inaninities!!!

and to conclude that those supporting impeachment are ruled by emotion rather than intelligence… oh c’mon… unang una ano nga bang masama sa pagiging emosyonal tungkol sa mga nangyayari sa bansa? second, to have emotions about an issue DOES NOT preclude one from being able to think rationally at the same time. Intellect and emotion are two human faculties that are not mutually exclusive, my dears! Pwedeng gamitin yun ng sabay… Maybe you don’t know how to do that kaya ganito ang mga sinasabi niyo…

Hay naku, practice what you preach na lang kaya? Take your own advice, why dontcha?

Napakadaming kalokohan ng gobyernong ito,dapat hndi nating hayaan na matuoy ang chacha sa sila ang nasa kapangyarihan,paiikutin lang tyo ng mga to

manunga,

One thing I have noticed in various forums is the inability of some posters to handle criticism. Proof of emotions ruling over intellect.

Selene,
ang dami mong tinanong, you just want me to make speculations sa mga hindi pa nangyayari eh hindi naman ako manghuhula. thats why kailangan nang matuloy ang impeachment so that everything will be presented in the proper court, para we won’t need to make anymore speculations. actually going back to your question, im speculating that if we will have an honest impeachment using the ammended complaint, there is no way Arroyo can win this.

bakit ayaw mong mag impeachment? ayaw mo bang ma i defend ng idol mo ang sarili nya.

opinyon mo hardworking president si Arroyo, i respect that. pero opinyon ko din na yes hardworking nga sya, hardworking syang mangdaya sa eleksyon at mangurakot sa pera ng bayan. at opinyon ko din peke syang presidente.

Ang sabi mo, there are over four thousand bills awaiting the attention of Congress. Ilang taon bang nakaupo yang si Gloria mo, mag lilimang taon na sa january di ba. kelan lang nagsimula ang impeachment hearing, di ba etong july lang. so wag mong sisihin ang impeachment proceeding, gumising ka.

Ang sabi mo — we just have to look within ourselves–we’ve done too much looking around us already. Sabihin mo kay Arroyo yan at sa mga alipores nya. Nasagot ko na to before sa previous blog ko. Matino na akong nagbabayad ng tax, 30% infact ang nababawas sa sweldo ko, hindi ako mandaraya at magnanakaw. Gusto ko ang boss ko sa trabaho, ang mga leaders ko, lalo na ang presidente ko ganun din. Araw araw akong chi-ne-check, malinis pa naman ang konsensya ko. Kaya stop making that clicheist comment anymore, matagal nang laos yan.

time for the guillotine for gma and her ilk. whoosh away!

manunga and enlightened_pinay,

If the opposition can come up with the 79 signatures needed to send their case to the Senate, then there is nothing to prevent an impeachment trial. Let GMA then defend herself at trial.

Otherwise, respect the decision of the majority affirming the decision of the justice committee dismissing the three complaints.

The question is: can the Gloria Ibagsak people handle it if the opposition do not get the 79 signatures? Can they respect the decision of the majority or will they be taking to the streets again if they do not get their way?

It is a shame that being lawmakers, their first resort, instead of immediately filing an impeachment complaint, was to take to the streets and clamor for Arroyo’s resignation. The so-called amended complaint was a mere afterthought when they found out that they could not gain enough public support for their evil designs. Pinahiya pa nila ang mga sarili nila by throwing that despicable tantrum in Congress. How could they expect to win their colleagues over to their side?

Their hodgepodge of an impeachment complaint, their arrogance in calling themselves the conscience bloc, as if they had the monopoly of truth, their intolerance of the views of their colleagues, their tainted motives and their overeager desire to oust Arroyo are ingredients for defeat. We need not look to the other side of the fence if the so-called “conscience bloc” screws up.

enlightened_pinay said,
September 6, 2005 @ 7:11 pm

Selene,
Dont fool yourself, its not the minority’s fault why the impeachment failed.
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enlightened_pinay,

Can i ask you question? why the party list group or minority congressman did not file impeachment complain in the first place. Bakit naunahan pa sila ni Atty. Lozano. Kaya naman pala nilang gumawa ng ammended complain bakit tatanga-tanga sila nung lumabas na yung Garci tape hindi sila nagfile ng impeachment complain agad. Ano umaasa ba sila noon sa shortcut na mapapatalsik si PGMA sa pamamagitan ng People power. At nung walang masyadong kumagat sa People power nagmamadaling nagfile ng ammended complain.
I agree with almost everybody here na ni-railroad yung process ng mga maka-administration, pero dahil din sa kagagawan ng minority eh. Binigyan nila ng butas ang reklamo nila. Dahil sa tatanga-tanga sa umpisa at umaasa sa people power, ayan tuloy walang nangyari.

Lozano filed it because he believes that the Garci tape is impeachable offense…Marcoleta endorsed it because he believes to the complain or no one is endorsing it.
So who’s to blame? It should be Lozano and Marcoleta and not the anti-impeachment in that case. So the Pro impeachment congressman should blame Lozano and Marcoleta and not the Administration. So to the pro-impeachment look for Lozano and marcoleta kill them both, because your impeachment complain was killed initially by this two person.

pakisama na rin pala si Congressman Suplico kasi kasama rin siyang nagendorse sa Lozano complaint.

enlightened_pinay said,
September 6, 2005 @ 8:32 pm

kaveneshi,
have you been following this impeachment process all along?

naintindihan nyo po ba na hindi dapat nila binasura ng justice committee ang opposition & Lopez complaints dahil imbes na unahin nila ang question of form of substance ay inuna pa nila ang prejudicial question. naiintindihan nyo rin po ba na may mga experts na nag sasabi na ayun sa constitution, hinahayaan tayong magkaron ng ISA LAMANG IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDING SA ISANG TAON, ang complaint po ay iba sa proceeding.

Ang justice committe ay may choice sana, pero pinatay nila ang pagkakaton ng mga tao na marinig at makita ang ebidensya ng magkabilang panig.

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I absolutely agree with you. mali yung mga administration congressman. kaso hindi tayo congressman eh, sila yung nagpasya nun kaya yun ang paniniwala nila. lutong makaw man ang impeachment process, what to do. congress is about numbers, not about what is right or wrong. is about political affiliation. so next time, or next election bumoto naman tayo ng mabuti. tayo rin naman ang naglagay sa kanila jan eh. so tayo rin dapat ang sisihin. wag tayong magmalinis, it’s all our fault…

the put a microscope in your views. as little as lozano and marcoleta – they two are just part of the grand plan. why would you say that malacanan is innocent?

unfortunately impeachment (specially removal of an elected position) is (going to be) a political excercise and nothing else. it is for that reason most will go with their own political ties.

kavenishi, you don’t have enough evidence? this is nonsense… for you are not the court either. so do you say that the tapes are still inadmissible?

the truth is the truth regardless who sides with it. just because you do not like the people who are looking for the truth this time doesnt mean the truth is not worth delving into. sablay, man.

kavenishi, your wanting something that doesn’t exist… you know the best solution is to sedate yourself and be numb?

everyone knows gma cheated…everyone also knows the opps cheated as well…many knows walang kahinatnan ang impeachment due to its political nature…many believed and resigned to the idea that in case gma is ousted, another clone (may it be from admin or opps) would do no better…when people think this way, they would not mind anything that’s been happening around them as long as it doesn’t affect them.

sans the politicians, marching the streets might achieve results somehow to change people’s perspective in the way the people vote (pero tagal pa next election its effectiveness would die down) and being vigilant to actions of their elected leaders. but if it can oust the president, i doubt it…not this time around…

the reason we have a crisis is because they were caught and in power…what sense would it be to cry foul if the opps were caught cheating when they are not in power anyway….

my idea is that everyone cheated may it be small or grand scale (some can’t do grand scale if they don’t have the means), don’t overanalyze my post…

i’m not trying to be righteous (if you brand the middle class that way). on the other hand i believe you’re the one trying to be one.

RELIEVED and elated by the decision of the House of Representatives to dismiss the three impeachment complaints filed against her, President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo urged the nation Tuesday to “move on to a brighter tomorrow.” She hailed the 158-51 vote upholding the recommendation of the House justice committee as a “grand display of political maturity” by the congressmen and said it “seals our stability and resilience as a nation.” That day, she added, was “a glorious day in history” that saw a President being retained “through voting in the halls of constitutional democracy” instead of being ousted through people power.

It would have been more fitting to call it Gloria’s day. For only the President and her loyal allies seemed in the mood to celebrate the results of the vote last Tuesday, much less toast the mindless loyalty that her congressional allies put on display.

The Constitution gives the House all of 60 session days to discuss and decide impeachment complaints. The justice committee finished its work in 14 days, 12 of which were wasted on debating anything and everything but the very serious charges made against the President, including cheating in and stealing the last presidential elections. When it buckled down to real business, the committee set aside the stronger amended complaint put together by the opposition, and chose to consider the poorly prepared complaint filed by lawyer Oliver Lozano, saying it was the first to be filed.

Some legal luminaries had pointed out that what was barred by the Constitution was not the filing of other complaints but a second impeachment proceeding within one year. But pro-administration members of the committee insisted they were one and the same. Then they threw out the original Lozano complaint for “insufficiency of substance.”

The House as a whole could have overturned that funny committee decision by a vote of one-third of its members, but Malacañang saw to it that the opposition couldn’t gather the 79 votes they needed. Calls were reportedly made to congressmen, pork barrel funds increased, high positions offered or actually given to relatives and friends of lawmakers and other promises made to ensure that they voted against impeachment. And but for one party-list congressman (who would later withdraw his signature from the impeachment complaint), no one found anything wrong with such blatant attempts to influence and corrupt the members of a supposedly co-equal body as well as the impeachment process.

When it was time for the entire House to vote, the reasons most often cited by administration lawmakers for trashing the impeachment was that it was what their constituents wanted. How did they come to that conclusion when surveys have shown that a big majority of Filipinos want Ms Arroyo impeached?

Another reason given was that the impeachment is a political process and so they must toe the party line. If this were so, then impeachment is a toothless and useless process. A president, who has a firm hold on the majority in Congress, can commit any crime without fear of losing his position. Conversely, a president that doesn’t have a majority can be removed for the flimsiest of reasons.

Strangely, this notion that impeachment is nothing more than a numbers game has gained currency. And that is how the administration allies in the House played it. And they call such slavish, mindless loyalty a “grand display of political maturity”? What the House vote last Tuesday showed was not democracy in action but the failure to function of the one institutional process to redress wrongdoing in the highest office.

When the President challenged her political foes to “bring their grievance to Congress,” many welcomed it, assuming she was willing to submit to the process (laid down by the Constitution) of determining wrongdoing at the highest levels of government. But it looks like she and her allies quickly moved to subvert it.

Now the process of ascertaining the truth and seeking justice is back to where it was before she hurled that challenge—in the streets. And many among those who thought our laws and institutions should be given the chance to work are starting to link hands with those who had declared from the start that such avenue was closed. Ms Arroyo may think the worst is over, but very few others see a “brighter tomorrow” of peace and stability in the days or even months ahead.

basher — correct ko lang ng konti — hindi po ate glow but ATE GLUE…
Kapit tuko na kasi… kapal muks…

TAX REVOLT…..

Iwan ko lang kung hindi ‘tong si ATE GLUE malaglag sa puwesto…
Ganun di naman, yung tulong natin sa gobyerno sa pamamagitan ng pagbabayad ng buwis ay pinagbayad lang naman ni ATE GLUE sa mga tongressmen na kaalyado nya para makuha ang support… Lalong lalo ng ngayon binasura nila ang empeachment mas lalong expensive dahil e-maintain ni ATE GLUE yung support ng mga tongressmen…Kaya nga meron silang tinatawag na — it’s PAYBACK TIME….

Kaya panawagan ko po sa lahat — TAX REVOLT….

Tax revolt, rallies, who are you kidding? Sino ba maaapektuhan niyan? Sino ba mawawalan ng trabaho? Sino ang magdurusa? Ang mayayamang pulitiko? Inuuto nyo sarili nyo. It’s the economy that will suffer. Ang mga manggagawa ang magdurusa. Get out of your comfort zones and false ideologies and see the average worker who desires nothing but to move on with his life. Do you think he cares kung sino ang pangulo? No! All he wants is a stable job, food on the table and a better life for his family. Either your eyes and ears were closed to the majority congressmen’s speeches in Congress and you listened only to those of the minority, or you are truly the ones who are deaf, dumb and blind to the real truth and to the real will of the majority of Filipinos.

Selene u have lost ur sense of what is right and wrong.

It is wrong to cheat and lie.

The only way we can move forward is to safeguard the fundamentals of our Democracy. We follow the Constitution, have clean elections and have leaders who are accountable to the people. If everyone follows the rules from the top all the way down, then we can project a stable, economically/politically level playing field.

As opposed to a personality driven, GMA is the only option kind of crap that u want ram down our throats.

Oh and the copy of the ad that you posted, it’s pointless.

” Get out of your comfort zones and false ideologies and see the average worker who desires nothing but to move on with his life.”
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What comfort zones? What false ideologies? Who doesn’t want to move on in life? Wag kang masyadong OA.

Your typical Filipino mentality as shown in your arguments is what makes the Philppines the crummy, filthy, laughable, shameful country that it is right now.

Go back to basics.

Down with this Fascist Regime! Give the Government back to the people!

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