Islam viewed in better light — SWS

Muslim, Catholic, Protestant…basta, kapag pumatay ang isang tao, dapat kamatayan ang hatol regardless of his denomination.

Those bombers that are now waiting to be executed, you deserve it. I wonder if “execution” will ever be implemented to the corrupt few. I can’t wait for Estrada to be the first example.

I believe it was Niccolo Machiavelli who said, “Awareness of tradition is the foundation of our future.” Seems to me that our country has been heading towards a corrupt foundation. I wonder what our future will be. I guess we’ll find out if Imelda, Estrada, et al will ever be executed or pardoned.

Rather than viewing Islam in a better light, why don’t we look at the overall picture and view the nation’s foundation for the future?

Ito lang po ang aking masasabi. Sa isang bansa kapag konti lang ang mga Muslim, matitino ang mga iyan, nguni’t kapag dumami na sila at naging mayorya patay kayong mga “infidels” at mga “unbelievers” Halimbawa na lang ang Saudi, Indonesia at Pakistan. Tingnan ang nangyayari sa bansang Pransiya ngayon, madalas ngayon ang kaguluhan. Sino ang gumagawa ng gulo? Mga Muslim na galing sa Aprika paano, dumarami na sila. Kaya kung ang Metro Manila ay maging 80 o 90 porsiyentong Islamic magtago na kayo sa pinanggalingan ninyo.

Your points well taken Rye, I see what you mean.

Si Batong buhay galit talaga sa Muslim. Palagay ko mas mabait naman ang Pilipino Muslims kaysa Middle East Muslims. Maliban na lang sa kasapi ng Abu Sayyaf at Jemah Islamiyah. Ganoon din meron tayong NPA at KFR, Kuratong Baleleng, walang pinagkaiba. Friendly Muslim sa akin kasi suki ako ng DVD. hehe

now that it (buying/selling of fake DVDs to which Muslims had been known for) was mentioned, may one expound on the protection of the intellectual property rights (IPR) vis-à-vis our “deeply rooted corruption?” is there effective campaign against IPR violation spearheaded by OMB?

Muslims, one laments, are branded “pirates.” i hope, one day, they would no longer be “ostracized” for this as this practice is definitely not Islamic (…so, too, acts of terrorism?).

the problem is viewed in a better light as evidenced by the survey…but, then again, it’s just a survey…

Sana magkaroon kayo ng pagkakataon na tumira sa piling ng mga MUSLIM para mas maintindihan ninyo na ang mga Muslim ay mabubuting tao at mapagmahal ng kapwa. Mas mararamdaman ninyo ang sinseridad nila kesa sa iba dyan na punong-puno ng pagka-IPOKRITO!

Naniniwala ako sa survey ng SWS!

As shown on their SWS class demograpics. I can safely say that communication between our Muslim brothers and Christians are most probably enhance with Piracy trading of DVD, VCD, PC Softwares and CD. Class ABC has the highest favorable rating with ISLAM at 72%, and incidentally these are the class groups who can afford to buy pirated cd’s at a more frequency which suffice to mean that they have more communication with the muslims peddling the products. While class D are moderate buyers considering the limited income they have and they have moderate communication with the muslims too, favoring ISLAM at 63%. While Class E, favoring ISLAM at 59%, precisely because they have less income to buy the products and therefore have limited interaction with actual Muslims. Well, of course that is only my hypothesis.

Funny though it seem, some people here talks about corruption in government, as if they themselves are not corrupted. Our society should be equally put to blame why it proliferates because our way of life is also condoning it. Corruption as defined in Brittanica Enc. which means -inducement to wrong by improper or unlawful means or a departure from the original or from what is pure or correct. The double standards in us Filipinos are also exemplified by our patronizing pirated products.

However, I could not totally blame the Muslim piracy peddlers because they are there to augment a good income to feed their families. I could not blame the Christian dominated buyers either because, they couldn’t afford to buy or rent original copies having a minimal Philippine standards of income. Corruption in general has already been deeply inculcated in our society’s framework. And changing a single leader alone, I believe is not a viable proposition. Needs a hell more than that to change the deeply rooted corruption in us to change our society as whole- for the better. And frankly, I don’t know the answer.

To Curious,
The SWS survey that has been commissioned was not all about Piracy, Buying or Selling of CD, DVD, pirated softwares, blah, blah, blah! Please don’t equate Muslims to producer of Pirated items. (open up your eyes and you will see that there are more non-Muslims doing this piracy thing!)

You are out of context or maybe you did not read about the survey article. The way you convey your message is so irrational and seems it generalize the whole Muslim people/nation of patronizing the selling of pirated CD/DVDs etc. This is not acceptable man.

As I have said, this could be one of their ways to earn for a living though they know that this is illegal. I know there are more ways to earn “legally” but I can say that, the general Non-Muslim Filipino society is so discriminating as the other people here in this blog. Most of the non-muslim people in the Philippines think that every Muslim person is a traitor or backstabber or only brave when they are in flock. And some thinks that non-Muslim are superior in every ways.

Come On, search within you on and evaluate your outlook about the Muslims. You are lucky that you don’t belong to the “minority group” of the society and you enjoys all the good things that this “double standard” Filipino society are offering.

Don’t you think that the government is fair and just in supporting a certain province or region? Look at Mindanao especially the ARMM areas. Isn’t it that these areas are considered poor, why? Because the government is also double standard. They only see these areas as potential source of cheating every elections!

However, I think that if only the government will give equal treatment to its citizen no matter what his religion or clan is then you will see that both non-Muslims and Muslims can work hand-in-hand, harmoniously and together they will help the Philippines to be one of the great nations.

To curious,
Yes, I have encountered that word but I don’t know which definition did you use in arriving such a “hypothesis”.

Well, I understand your blog defined as “b : an interpretation of a practical situation or condition taken as the ground for action”. You clearly mentioned the practical situation happening in Manila (to be specific) and from that, you made an interpretation which downgraded the level of Muslims.

Your blog is not for the sake of an argument. The communication between Muslims and Non-Muslims does not begins and ends with business transactions of CD/DVDs. There are more than that.

Anyway, I truly understand your “hypothesis” and thanks for recognizing my point. Im also here to share my thoughts and to be objective.

Batong-buhay: I think you are out of line there. Hindi mo masasabi na kapag dumami ang mga Muslim ay patay na lahat. That’s very unfair at huwag mong gawing example ang Saudi Arabia, Indonesia at Pakistan. We will never be like them because the Philippines will remain as a dominantly Christian. At kung dumami man ang Muslim sa bansa ay hindi dapat sabihin na makakagulo sila. If you are a good Christian you should accept everybody whether Muslim, atheist, etc with fairness and understanding. The reason I’m not agreeing with you is because I’ve been working in Saudi Arabia for several years now and I know majority of Muslims are fair and kind. Yes, I admit there are others who are the opposite but still I’m still willing to work in order to help improve my family’s life and in a way also helping this miserable government by my remittances. So, kabayan, huwag kang magalit sa mga Muslims in general. Siyanga pala, maraming mga Pilipinos dito sa Saudi Arabia at may ilan sa kanila ay magugulo din, and that’s a fact.

Doon sa mga tumutuligsa sa akin gusto ko lang sabihin na ang paggawa ng masama o mabuti ay walang sini-sinong relihiyon. Ang relihiyon ay walang silbi dahil sa halip na ito ay makapag “unite” ito ay nagdi-“divide.” Unang tanong: Pag tayo ba ay namatay tatanungin ba tayo kung ano ang relihiyon natin kung sino man ang sasalubong, sa langit man o impiyerno? Ang paggawa man ng masama o mabuti “is a matter of choice.” Kaya nga tayo ang “highest form of animal” na may “free will” para gumawa ng desisyon. Pangalawang tanong: Anong bansa sa gitnang silangan ang may “democratic form of government” bukod sa Israel? Wala. Paano ang batas nila ay galing sa kanilang banal na aklat (kuno) na kailangang sundin kahit anong mangyari. “Total domination” ika nga. At bakit hindi ko gagawing ehemplo ang Saudi, Indonesia at Pakistan? Hindi ba maraming hindi muslim ang pinahihirapan at pinapatay sa mga bansang ito? Kasamang Frustrated OFW, paano kang nakasisiguro na ang Pilipinas ay laging magiging dominanly christian eh nakikita mo naman ang pagdami na ng mga muslim. May holiday na nga sila. Sumasang-ayon ako sa iyo na may mga muslim na mayroon ding mabubuting puso nguni’t ito ay mabibilang mo lang sa daliri. Katulad mo at nang nakararami sa atin, tumira rin ako sa isang bansang muslim ng labing apat na taon at ako ay nagpapasalamat dahil dito ko nasaksihan ang katotohanan. Tunghayan ninyo ang site na ito: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

Makasingit nga please kaibigang Batong Buhay.

Lahat ng relihiyon ay mabuti. Tao ang gumagawa ng kasamaan. Kung “easy going” ang mga Cristiyano sa religious practices mas extreme naman ang pagsunod ng Muslim sa inuutos ng Koran, gaya ng magdasal 5 times a day, hindi pagkain ng pork, etc., kung kaya’t marami sa kanila ay nagiging panatiko. Lalo pa man na ang ‘jihad’ ay nakasaad sa Koran upang makipagdigmaan sa hindi Muslim. Extreme devotion can turn to zealotry. Ito ang nagbibigay alinlangan sa mga Cristiyano. Ngunit dito ang malaking pagkakaiba ng Pilipino Muslim sa dayuhang Muslim. Hindi panatiko ang Pilipino Muslim.

Nabanggit mo din ang riots na nagaganap ngayon sa France dahil daw sa mga Muslim immigrants. I have had a chance in recent years to meet some successful young French Moroccan executives, some Ivorians and Algerians at our head office in Paris. They are the lucky ones who made good, but they had much to complain about the dismal attitude the French govt. has towards their poor compatriots. They described their situation almost akin to the squatter problems we have in the country. They have a social volcano, they explained, that is bound to explode any time. And so it did. My point is, the riots were the result of government indifference and neglect to a social problem that has been growing for so many years. Now it’s out of control. And it’s not because they are Muslims.

Tama ang karamihang sinabi mo, BB, at kung lahat sana ng tao ay katulad mo sa pagiisip na gumawa ng mabuti and mundo ay magiging malaya at tahimik. Ngunit ang tao ay may iba’t ibang kagustuhan, iba ibang paniniwala, o kaya may husto o sirang pagiisip. At kung nagaaway-away at nagpapatayan ang mga tao ay dahil sa hindi pa rin nila maalis ang prejudice sa kapwa. Doon na lamang sa paghusga na lahat ng Muslim ay masama is a form of prejudice. Gayon din ang mababang pagtingin sa mga lahing itim kaysa mga puti is racial prejudice.

Huwag na tayong lumayo pa tungkol sa relihyon. Nasabi ko na ang tao ang gumagawa ng kasamaan at hindi ang relihiyon. Ang ano mang relihyon mabuti ang itinuturo sa tao. Tulad sa mga Christiyano iisa lang ang bibliang ginagamit ngunit iba-iba pa rin ang mga interpretation ng tao kaya nga’t hindi magkasundo sa paniniwala. Gusto nila ang kani-kanilang interpretation ang tama at masunod. Kung nasa Pilipinas ka ngayon lagi mong mapapanood sa TV ang bangayan at siraan ng Iglesia ni Kristo ni Manalo at Ang Dating Daan ni Ely Soriano 24/7. Hindi sila magkasundo sa ulat ng Bibliya.

Kung tungkol sa Abu Sayyaf, naniniwala nga sila sa Koran ngunit hindi naman tumutupad sa kautusan nito. Ang pagiging criminal nila ay dala ng labis na greed tulad din ng mga kriminal sa ating lipunan na marunong din magsimba at magdasal samantalang nagnanakaw at pumapatay.

Iyong nagaganap na kaguluhan sa France gawa ng mga mahihirap na immigrants ay humantong na sa dulo ng mahabang panahong pagtitiis.
Hindi dapat nauwi ito sa ganitong sitwasyon kung ang pamahalaan ng France ay dininig ang hinagpis ng mahihirap nuong pang nakalipas na panahon. Ang lahat ng ito ay dahil sa kapabayaan ng pamahalaan. Di ba’t ganito din ang nangyayari sa ating bayan? Ang nakapagtataka lamang ay bahit nangyayari ito sa France samantalang ito’y isa ng ganap na first world country gaya ng Ameria. Nagpapatunay lamang na maging sa first world countries meroon pa rin prejudices. Kaya’t hindi ka dapat magtaka.

It was a pleasure BB. Marami din akong pinagisipan sa mga naitanong mo na hindi ko dati naitanong sa sarili. It was a fair exchange of views and we both learned something from them.