Welcome back, Garci

here comes another liar, manipulator, and thief. the author of GLUE-Ria’s “good fate”.

😛

Should we even bother to give Garci the benefit of the doubt? Hasn’t majority of the public passed judgement already on the “HELLO GARCI” issue? Obviously briefed, the public expects GARCI’s “Tell All” to be lies and nothing but lies. At this point, the LIAR, like GLUE-RIA, doesn’t have an iota of credibility to “swear” to the public “that there was no such thing as rigging the last elections.” Too late even for that! History has already unfolded, and the key players are GARCI and GLUE-RIA. Their fates were sealed when the “HELLO GARCI” issue broke out. In other words, it’s GAME OVER. Howver, it was a good move on the part of Sen. Lacson to have announced that GARCI was “in town.” Had he not, would the GLUE-RIA camp have done so?

The prophets of doom are quick! Really quick!
To these muppets, the truth is only what they want to see, hear and believe in. Before, they believed in Pimentel who said that Garci is dead. Then, they believed in Tatad and Remulla, harharhar!
They want to believe in the SWS and Pulse Asia surveys that showed that President is unpopular now. But they do not want to believe in the surveys conducted by the same organizations (SWS and Pulse Asia) that pointed to a victory for President Arroyo over the late actor Fernando Poe Jr.

Nakakatakot ang mga ito! Sa kanila, ang blue ay nagiging pula pag gusto nila! And to think that they even suggested that wiretapping be made legal in violation of the Constitution only to satisfy their self-serving motives!

Basahin nyo ang Bill of Rights ng Saligang Batas ng Republika ng Pilipinas!

Section 3. The privacy of communication and correspondence shall be inviolable except upon lawful order of the court, or when public safety or order requires otherwise as prescribed by law. Any evidence obtained in violation of this or the preceding section shall be inadmissible for any purpose in any proceeding.

Section 14. No person shall be held to answer for a criminal offense without due process of law.
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall be presumed innocent until the contrary is proved, and shall enjoy the right to be heard by himself and counsel, to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation against him, to have a speedy, impartial, and public trial, to meet the witnesses face to face, and to have compulsory process to secure the attendance of witnesses and the production of evidence in his behalf.

Section 17. No person shall be compelled to be a witness against himself.

All these apply to each one of us!

Lies, lies and more lies.

If Gloria Arroyo and her spin doctors think that they can misled us all over again, THEY GOT IT WRONG. Most of us knew in our hearts and in our minds that Gloria Arroyo stole, cheated and rigged the last presidential election with the help of the “dagdag-bawas” king in the persona of Virgilio Garcillano. I read the whole 106 pages of the Hello-Garci transcript and I even let my non-Filipino friends read it. Our consensus is that she really rigged the last election. The one that really stuck in our mind is the conversation between Gloria and Garci where Gloria was telling Garci that her lead “cannot be less than one M”.
Gloria wasn’t protecting her votes in this conversation, it’s very clear that she’s telling and directing Garci what’s her expected advantage should be towards her opponent. After the canvassing, Gloria got her wish of over 1 million votes advantage against FPJ. Thanks to the midas touch of Virgilio Garcillano.

WHATEVER WORDS THAT COME OUT OF GARCI’S MOUTH FROM HERE ON I WILL NEVER BELIEVE, EVEN IF HIS TONGUE COMES NOTARIZED.

in time for SEA Games, scorekeepers previously in a dilemma who will eventually tally the results now have an answer. SMS making the rounds in the “text populi” at present say garci is the answer! we’re now certain to win the medal tally…huhuhu…hahaha

welcome back, garci!

Sorry to use this section Mr. Pabico but the topic on “Paradox of Freedom” does not have the space provided for comments.

Jester, I cannot give you my comments until Mr. Pabico fixes the problem.

Nowadays in this country, a person is always presumed guilty until proven innocent beyond reasonable doubt! harharhar!
Long ago, we have bayanihan, damayan and other good traits. Now these cultural heritage are gone, replaced by crab mentality and sisihan. Even abroad, Filipinos are known to backstab fellow Filipinos.
The Garci illegal tapes divided our nation because of political and self-serving interests of a few who want to grab power for themselves.
Believe me, these politicians, led by Escudero (who have said that he wants to become president), Remulla (who have openly announced in Cavite his desire to become senator), Villanueva (whose like his father is using religion for political purposes), Etta Rosales and Akbayan (who are nothing self-proclaimed messiahs and have acquired enormous riches for themselves because of their prok barrel funds in Congress), Satur Ocampo and Bayan Muna (some call them “bayad muna” who are against the pork barrel before but are now staunch defenders of it), and others, will go against each others throats before the start of the campaign for the 2007 national and local elections. They will demand release of funds from government and will use the funds to finance their campaign.
Garci for them is not the issue anymore. They want media attention and media will give it to them, come hell or highwater because the Filipinos will buy and read their newspapers, and watch their shows and in the process acquire high viewership ratings and more advertisements. harharhar!
Cause-oriented!?!? No! It’s more of COST ORIENTED!

1. jester-in-exile said,
November 27, 2005 @ 7:15 pm

cromwell6,
“The paradox of it, I aver may exemplify complexities of magnitude because we still have to determine exactly where the oligarchy interests’ lie and it is not easily discernible. Henceforth, the paradox of the oligarchy can spell to be the genuine power behind the People Power and the Martial Rule, the creator and the destroyer of both the phenomenon and this is not ‘the chicken and egg’ theory.”
am i to understand that you claim that it was the rich folk as a class who backed martial law, engineered its disposal through people power, and bastardized people power as a means of transforming society?

wow.

interesting idea, if i understand you right. i’d like to see why you believe so, without losing sight of the first quarter storm participants, the desaparecidos, et al.

toro, baycas,

comments on cromwell6’s comment?

Jester-in-exile,

Thank you for asking: Simply put, it’s much like dealing with the garbage problem, and it should poke on how one can clean up. What you would as the premise should perhaps be interested asking as much as cleaning up may be to do more with people behind garbage collection, as probably would to deal with uncollected garbage and the missing street sweepers, (the disappeared).

What I’m meaning to say is also pretty much like garbage, only pretty serious ones like garbage from toxic materials and the kind of long term damage it does to unsuspecting people now afflicted with diseases imaginably without cure wrought from such poisonous wastes.

Mine is more to deal with people behind these industries who continue to violate, soiling up our environment and worst, bribe people in government and powerful politicians to continue with their business never mind the damage.

The irony is that the Oligarchs get away with it quick and clean, very unfortunately, also the exclusive clique of few power peddlers dictating the tempo and upbeat of politics and business in the country, thus, crime does pay whenever sometimes.

Of course it goes on to my saying there certainly is a difference, such that tell between who are behind the street sweepers and the one with the toxic wastes, all of them deal with garbage anyway.

So the garbage of Marcos, the war criminal as I’m meaning to say, continue on and this I remind much like the toxicity of his crimes as the reason why there is armed confrontation with the Muslims, the Marxists and the Rightists.

The Rightists, who may be the people of the oligarchy and the military seemingly are appearing to have perhaps been the petrol behind the People Power locomotive.

And of course the unsettling embarassment of the mishap of a near shooting war with our neighbor Malaysia, because of the Sabah misadventures circa the 60’s, have at best of why we continue to be a problematic nation, and continuing still to be very corrupt and in squalor, and oh so poor.

This was the Marcos botched caper to secretly annex the State of Sabah, Malaysia, suspected of having been in jointly venturing with the Oligarchy, and the pocket back-up as said to being the Oligarch money.

Allow me to post my commentary, since same phenomenon also may be the paradox behind the Garcillano et al, of things called ‘cheating in elections’. Has Garci joined up with the ASG, J.I. maybe?

1. Cromwell6 said,
November 25, 2005 @ 2:53 pm

The ‘thing’ Freedom

Essentially, Pinoys have from daunting experiences, been amongst the few in the world who would have pedigrees of invaluable lessons, history of colors dealing with extraneously difficult situations from other people, outsiders as well as from themselves and colonizers who would have none but be exploitative, assimilate Pinoys to tailor according to only their peripheral interests.

But despite the education, still we are from how I see it, so far away as if in some animated stagnation, unmoving and so irrepressibly naïve despite the impeccable academics.

In business, we like saying ‘stick to basics’ which means be the raw deal let outsiders invest and be the maker of the ‘finished’ product, we just buy them back double, no cinch.

I have no make of to be honest with the kind of business infrastructure we have as a ‘free’ nation but with the kind of incredible money we owe to people here there and everywhere, I would probably assume we could be aiming to ourselves exploit the riches of the Moon and then the Martian soil.

But that’s not it, otherwise we could have been just like most other people in the ‘hood’ be righteously involved in making do with provisions for just the simple need like transport and this is to enable assuring the ‘supply and need’ thing so that we assure there’s food on the table, is this too difficult to understand?

Freedom by just the sampler of how we should treat overrated technocrats, the ‘borrow money exclusive club’ clique of morons (forgive the bad mouthing) can only utter none but just borrow and borrow.

This explains also why we have oligarchs who may be behind many celebrated heists financiers of both Martial Law & People Power, some brand new ones every now and then; you can’t miss them because they always have Swiss bank accounts in hidden bank vaults somewhere.

Well, some good some bad may portend to just how life should be lived in a free nation like ours.

But when people start to die for nothing, this I would probably imagine to be a differing kind of derangement. Can we win wars by being so naïve not know that it is fraught with dangers and that it is ill affordable?

There are other ways by which to handle conflict one I would imagine would be to comprehend why there should be one in the first place, are we really knowing why we are at war with ourselves?

I am beginning to be very afraid we as ‘freedom loving’ people may not really be knowing the heck why there’s war in these times especially with the 9/11 global menace of people so irreversibly insane they just have to blow, detonate away never mind the innocent. God be my keeper, I am really scared.

Freedom as explicate in money terms said in many trading floors does entail of an intricate web of money culture the world is so heavenly hamstrung with, ours by way of saying is just an insignificant subsidiary, be as it may, is in reality a plaything for just the very few oligarchy in the country.

Sure, the oligarchy when they are possessing of good numbers is definitely healthy economic signs, the preponderance of which is growth and development. It is when they are few and exclusionary and so controlling that it somehow become abnormal, sometimes very dangerous.

The Oligarchy in the country is dominant and is too small a number for comfort and for a country too large and widely scattered as ours, and all water in between, it is definitely a bad sign.

For none medics like us, let it be the dengue the soon pandemic disease (the Oligarchs) and we know this to be borne from mosquitoes that would dwell in unkempt waterholes, like say our economically stagnated country.

To come of it, our military infrastructure is badly incapacitated and is not in ways to describe, capable of deployment in multifaceted battlefronts.

The reason being faces behind the armed fronts engaging our troops are either Marxists, Muslims or rightists. This being difficult to assess in pedigrees of how to treat each and everyone of them, no money for it either so that military resolutions by my way of saying more so definitely is nil.

Economics is, I would surmise, the only viable locomotive by way of perhaps enhancing the ability to bat for negotiated settlements, and may be the best remainder of the best thing, but what economics is there for a poverty stricken democracy for us to be able to enable for political resolutions?

So back to the oligarchy the few clique of filthy rich people behind the money thing, the people from within the economics of it all.
The paradox of it, I aver may exemplify complexities of magnitude because we still have to determine exactly where the oligarchy interests’ lie and it is not easily discernible. Henceforth, the paradox of the oligarchy can spell to be the genuine power behind the People Power and the Martial Rule, the creator and the destroyer of both the phenomenon and this is not ‘the chicken and egg’ theory.

A sign to say the filthy rich being scared is when you see their walls climb sky high. The Marxists would like to line them up and massacre them, and the military and politicians milk them bone dry. I personally would like more and more of them than their present number because by having so, you get to have jobs and good business, a very good thing isn’t it?

However, who are this people? Marcos the brilliant despot rounded them up like the beef on his dining table, promised them if they provide the pocket backing to invade the Sabah State of Malaysia during the 60s, they will have the riches yet imagined. They even recruited a Cavite smuggling king according to the movie-make of the terribly embarrassing event, for the transport scheme.

In the super secret invasion plans, Marcos recruited Muslims from Sulu to be his terrorists invade unsuspecting Sabahans, which was by the way, the very trigger why there is war with the Muslims present day.
In other words, the oligarchy is behind every mill to grind in the country and we do need them badly to cooperate if the intent is economics to solve things up in-as-much-as political resolutions should ever come to naught, this to my mind is the paradox to tell whether to be or not to be.

They never learned their Lesson!!!is that how bad we are..as filipinos?
nakakahiya!!!talaga nga naman ang ating mga kababayan na nagsisilbi kuno para sa kabutihan ng bayan..do you people in the Goverment dosn`t have a conscience at all??? look at JDV..di ba namatay ang daughter niya,at nasunog yata.Abalos lost also his grandaughter..nakainom daw ng lason..Sec Rufino..terminally ill..liver cancer daw..NSA Sec N.Gonzales was hospitalised..heart ailment daw,kung nag dadrama siya..I pray its up to you Lord..then Dir Wycoco now in ICU after heart attack..what do they have in common??? they are all born and commited to lie to cheat to steal for the sake of Ms Gloria Macapagal Arroyo..to stay in power illegally..all you evil`s pretending to served the filipino people but in truth is..has one commitment..that is to protect Ms Arroyo..the like`s of Bunye,Ermita,Tiglao,Saludo,Claudio,Pichay,Nograles,Baterina,FVR,JDV,
R Gonzales and now Garcillano..we the filipino people had suffered enough,,masyado na po na hirap na hirap ang ating mamayan at bayan..I`m one..opo isa po ako sa mga nagdadasal na sana sapitin niyo rin ang sinapit ng mga taong ito na lumoko sa taong bayan sa ating bayang Pilipinas..hope you all go to hell..and I will always pray to God that you suffer the worst ng kayo ay hindi na maparisan!!!!

please, let us just welcome garci back. we know from his tack in media that he’s sticking to what he said before he “disappeared.” i just hope i’ll hear it from the horse’s mouth when he appears in congress (senate and HOR). no high hopes for me though (as i’ve already braced myself for any eventuality).

now that he’s back in the limelight, verification of the authenticity of the hello, garci tapes can now be readily done through voice-print analysis [i just wonder why they didn’t do that before – voice tapes (tv and radio interviews) of him are in abundance anyway.].

to say the truth or not, that’s his problem. he waited and thought of it for almost six months. let’s hear from him when he’s under oath and let’s pray no harm on garci’s life will occur.

as to the “innocent until proven guilty,” this is a political thing and one has a freedom to think. it only applies in courts of law. virgilio is not yet charged in any Philippine court.

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arturo, cromwell6, and jester: no “log-in” links were noted early this morning in blog # 500 and a few blogposts previous to that. i get this to mean we’ve been barred to post further digressions. jester, i emailed my additional comment on the “paradox” to mr. alecks. it’s mighty humble for our hosts not to bar our log-in user names.

ms. sheila, ms. avigail, and mr. alecks: we apologize and promise to stick to the blog rules. thanks and more power!

right, welcome back garci! i hope you bring with you solid evidence to disprove all these “LIES” that have been circulating in your absence. if you can prove also that other people ask favors from you during the last election, fine. bring them all out. bring them to congress. don’t just swear in front of the media that there was no rigging in the last election. disprove to us the “hello garci” tapes. then, i might just believe you.

opps mali, taga SEA pala.

what do you think those oppositions who also called Garci should do in case they are also proven to have committed cheating in the last election? Are they also willing to say ” I’m sorry” in public due to lapse in judgement? I doubt if they have balls to say that.

Pahabol Po………….Mang GARCI Hello ULI, since close kayo ni Aling Gloria ARROVO pakibigay sa kanya etong draft ng RESIGNATION LETTER I wish to tell the source of this resignation letter, I AM SORRY!!! I forgot to include your name when I cut and paste this from your column. Please come forward in this blog, I AM SORRY, REALLY. I cant help to share this.
To Mang GARCI, heto yun :
The Resignation Speech
INTRODUCTION FROM THE AUTHOR/COLUMNIST
(My students in law school were each asked to draft a speech to be delivered by President Arroyo when the mounting pressure from the Filipino people becomes at last too much for her to bear. Together with some added Nixonesque rhetoric, this is the best of them all:)

The Resignation Speech:

Mga kababayan, magandang madaling araw:
I have spoken to you many times from this office, where many erroneous decisions have been made which grievously affected the fate of our nation. Each time, I did so to discuss some matter of national interest, even if it meant that in a number of times I would have to go back on my word.
In the same manner and time that you were awakened by my proclamation in the wee hours of dawn on June 24, 2004 as President for a six-year term, I now rouse you to listen to what I feel is the best way, notwithstanding what my good sense and better judgment tell me, to deal with the crises that have gripped our nation.
In all the decisions I have made, I have always tried to do what I imagined Pope John Paul II advised me to do when I asked him whether it would be a legal and moral act to unseat a constitutionally elected President. Throughout the questionable period of that succession — and until now — I have always felt it was my duty to make every possible effort to complete the term of office to which the overwhelming majority of people in Pampanga, Cebu, Iloilo, Bohol and the quaint town of Tipo-Tipo in faraway Basilan have elected me.
In the past few weeks, however, it has become evident — by way of ringer tones, surveys, media broadcasts and rantings of columnists and fair-weather, treacherous allies — that I no longer have any credibility to justify continuing that effort. As long as there was such credibility, I felt I could tough it out and invoke a constitutional process which could be moderated by my allies in Congress.
But with the disappearance of that credibility, I now believe that the constitutional process would not serve to get me off the hook. There is no longer a need for this fragmented national unity of our Strong Republic to be prolonged.
I would have preferred to wage a battle to the finish, whatever the personal agony it would have involved me and my family. My only husband, his brother, and my favorite son, have urged me to do so, even as they have exiled themselves to avoid being smeared when the fecal matter hits the air-conditioner.
I do not blame the deserted feeling that I have on my allies in Congress, who have been silent in defending me from allegations of malfeasance, misfeasance and nonfeasance. There have just been too many termites in my administration who know nothing but take advantage of me. My spokesman is a very loyal man, and I would not either condemn him for his zeal in protecting me from the slings of outrageous fortune, or deride him for being too naive not to know the difference between an original disc and a copy. And so the interest of our nation must always come before any personal lapse of judgment and show of bravura.
From the enlightened calls I have received from past presidents, ineffective vice presidents, resigned Cabinet members, congressional leaders, officers of the military and members of the Philippine National Police (PNP) not to mention an irate actress, I have concluded that the Gloria-Garci tapes have broken the back of our patient, ever-suffering nation and goad it into a rampage of bloodshed and fraternal strife.
I have never been anybody who gives up easily, as probably most of you will remember when I decided to break a promise not to run for the presidency. To vacate the presidency before my term is finished is repugnant to every impulse in my physical and mental structure. But I must put the benefit of the Philippines first. You need a full-size President to work with a full-time Congress, particularly at this time with problems of poverty, unemployment, corruption and a myriad more.
The allegations of jueteng have not even reached as far as the door to the Palace. The veracity of the contents of those tapes that everyone salivated on would implicate me have never been proved. I must admit, though, that the corruption that enveloped my administration, that gave us the distinction of being the second most corrupt nation in Asia, has stymied my effectiveness to govern.
To continue to fight for my personal vindication from all these would totally absorb my time and attention, in a period when my entire focus should be on the greater issues of an expanded value-added tax that was intended to be a palliative, but you have just been too eager for results of instant prosperity.
True, I won by only just over 1,000,000 votes over Fernando Poe Jr., just as a phonepal in Intramuros had assiduously calibrated and predicted, but it was victory well-deserved nonetheless. Fact is, I have been in power very much longer than anyone had ever predicted, and it must be God that kept me afloat all these years. I will say it again: The Lord brought me to the presidency, and now that He has spoken through the people, I am leaving it at His bidding.
I can only blame all these on myself. I have been much too proud to admit to any imperfection, but I cannot but make such an admission now.
I could go on and on. But now I find it impossible to govern. I have a disapproval rating of 64 percent, the highest ever for any President. My political base has been significantly eroded. Members of Congress, including those in the Liberal Party whom I pampered, have expressed their desire for me to go. People are marching in the streets. The military, the protector of the people, have spoken. The members of the PNP have said they do not want bloodshed. Just as easily they came to my succor in 2001, they are now saying my time is up.
I must admit I have lost my mandate to govern; Zion is far from restored.
At high noon today, I shall resign from the presidency. My Vice President, who shall speak after me, shall also resign effective at the same time. You all know he is ill-prepared for the weight of responsibility and the art of presidential governance. Instead, he shall go back to a chore he does best — reading the news scribbled on an idiot board. The process of constitutional succession under Section 11, Article VII of the Constitution shall be then followed.
History will judge me better than now. With no rancor in my heart, with my head held high, I know I have done my best.
God bless the Philippines!

Napaka sinungaling si Garci. Bakakong dako sabi pa dito sa Mindanao. Napahiya tuloy si Atty Ed Tamondong because when he guested in ANC, Gov. Ayong Maliksi called and denied that he told Garci that Lacson men were looking for Garci. Maliksi said that he only offered to help Garci, by providing a place to stay/hide. Napa sabi tuloy si Tamondong na the true is somewhere between the version of Garci and Maliksi.

Tapos he denied over ABS that he owns the house in RER subdivision and a large farm in Baungon, Bukidnon. I just cant help to comment because i am from CDOC and we also own a farm in Baungon, Bukidnon. We know that he owns that place. Althought he was set to sell or have the house rented because he was about to transfer to an exclusive subdivision in Upper Carmen.

lokalokang matino-

Alam naman natin na ang assignment ni Garci sa Regions IV and V ay good in paper only. Ang totoong assignment talaga ni Garci ay ang Mindanao. Alam kasi ni Garci kong saan-saan sa Mindanao ang vulnerable na lugar sa dayaan – sayang naman ang reputation niya na pagiging “dagdag-bawas operator” kong hindi gagamitin ni Pandak ang kanyang talent. That’s why Pandak appointed him before the elections despite his nasty reputation. It’s not in Gloria Arrovo’s best interest to appoint a credible person as an election commissioner.

Marami na namang kalokohan or hocus-pocus na nagyayari or mangyayari dahil nandito na naman sa bansa ang henchman ni Gloria Arrovo na si Big Mike Arrovo. Bumalik si Big Mike A sa bansa, so bumalik din si Garci. Abangan ang mga kalokohang magaganap ng pekeng administrayong Arrovo!

HELLO GARCI! tell it to the marines! hahaha! pansin nyo feeling artista si garci nagpapacute hehehe. kinukuha sympathy ng mga muslim love daw sya ng mga muslin ano? whoa? sino yung mga contact at bayaran ni big mike? in fairness to our muslim brothers, hinde sila ganoon. ayaw nila ng mga sinungaling di ba?

HELLO GARCI! matanda ka na. magpakototoo ka na. mas matutuwa ang nakararami kung sasabihen mo ang totoo. the people will support you. matakot ka sa nakapaligid sayo na baka matapos kang pakinabangan ay bumulagta ka na lang at ang ituro ng aroyo cohorts si lacson. huh! (sigh)

HELLO GARCI! put a closure to this issue. malapit na christmas. pamasko mo na lang sa sambayanan. GO TO CONGRESS at magsalita ka na under oath. di pwede yung one sided. kailangan ma cross examine para fair. nagkaroon ba ng dayaan? totoo bang nanalo si aroyo? please maawa ka. PAGOD NA KAMI!!

“But at the same time he said that the tapes that had been publicly released were ‘most likely spliced, edited and tailored to fit a sinister purpose.’ ”

sorry, garci, to my mind you hve no credibility. the burden of proving that statement is yours.

start with having the master tape found, authenticated (at least to show that it is not a copy of a copy, nor that it has been “massaged” — have a competent engineer do that), then released to the public. no point in claiming that it’s inadmissible in court, now, is there?

toro,

agreed that we have to give him the benefit of the doubt… although i find it difficult not to believe that in his flight and hiding he wasn’t preparing an iron-clad script. i wonder how gudani and balutan are taking this development?

baycas,

“verification of the authenticity of the hello, garci tapes can now be readily done through voice-print analysis [i just wonder why they didn’t do that before – voice tapes (tv and radio interviews) of him are in abundance anyway.].”

yes, baycas, voiceprint analysis can establish to a sufficient amount of confidence that it was garci, GMA, and whoever else garci wants to taint (like in the 95% and up range, for lower-end equipment). voiceprinting won’t prove splicing and other manipulation, though; we’d need a bit of detailed waveform analysis to do that.

(yep, we have to stay on topic. i hope the pcij people weren’t so annoyed by us.)

lokalokang matino,

nice letter. do you have a “good-bye, garci” version after he taints the both the administration and the opposition, and the powers-that-be leave him to be hung up to dry?

jr_lad,

“really garci, it’s not your voice that was on the tape?”

apparently the fellow thinks that nobody can prove “beyond reasonable doubt” that it’s him on the tape… as if we still live in the 1940’s or something.

luzviminda,

“I am worried that the life of Garci is more in danger after Garci clears GMA of the rigging in the election 2004. Baka lalo lang siyang patahimikin pagkatapos niyang ‘linisin at i-abswelto’ si GMA.”

personally, i think the fellow is in the unenviable position that he can’t please everyone, and in pleasing one camp he’d incur the ire of the other. hard to know what to do when one isn’t sure from which side the bullet is going to come from.

besides, i don’t think i’d join in efforts to protect him; after all, he tainted the comelec, the body supposed to be protecting the purity of the voice of the people (by this i mean the correct counting of votes). i don’t think that he’d be justified in asking sanctuary from the very people he screwed.

hello garci! after repeatedly denying before going underground that you did not talk to glue-ria, now, your singing a different tune. is it because of that new script on your hand?

also, i watch your interview and you’re acting like a muslim man now base on your gestures and costumes. i understand also that you’re being secured by our muslim brothers. why, you don’t trust your own religion now? nagbalik islam ka na ba? ang mga kapatid nating muslim ang ginagamit mo naman ngayon?

I won’t be surprised if Garci will produce a tape that is similar to the original tape of Sammy Ong. I guess, when he was away, Big M Arrovo tutored him what to say when he comes out. Now that Garci is in town, the Big Arrove is also back from his hibernation.
Only fools will believe Garci! He should have came out when the Hello Garci tape came out.
If his the one who wrote his prepared speech, how come he could not even read what he wrote? Big M Arrovo, I believe, prepared it for him.
We have to wake up, fellow Filipinos! Bad Karma is going around the families of the Palakpak people that surround Ms. Arrovo. If I were you, guys, I would submit to the will of the people and let Ms. Arrovo get isolated. Once she leaves the Presidency, she should be hanged her face kissing the ground to atone for her evil deeds!
Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!!!!!

1. baycas said,
November 28, 2005 @ 5:35 pm

“arturo, cromwell6, and jester: no “log-in” links were noted early this morning in blog # 500 and a few blogposts previous to that. i get this to mean we’ve been barred to post further digressions. jester, i emailed my additional comment on the “paradox” to mr. alecks. it’s mighty humble for our hosts not to bar our log-in user names.”

ms. sheila, ms. avigail, and mr. alecks: we apologize and promise to stick to the blog rules. thanks and more power!

Bay,
The apology, was it because there were few invectives unleashed in few of the exchanges on blog # 500, and not censorship?

Actually, it is the armed conflict that unnerves the heck of me and I can’t seem to find any of the issues any more relevant to the damage armed confrontation can to dislocate people and business, and asylum seekers clogging urban centers.

I think that burning issues like fire mill of cheats and the withdrawal of the Marxixsts on the peace table, would Muslims also follow on through with the Marxists can certain to be taxing enough like the evat, this could mean war that we can’t afford, will Garci join the insurgency?

Bay, fill us in soonest you are forgiven, it disheartens finding our blogposts in some bin for no serious enough reason, okay bro?

[…] Even the prepared statement read by the elections official on Philippine TV appears to have been written by someone else — the polished style is vastly different from the letter he wrote to President Arroyo in November 2003, when he was practically begging to be appointed Comelec commissioner. […]

Maybe you are right jester, on second thought, siguro dapat nga yata ay i-firing squad si Garci! Kasama ng amo nyang si GMA (Gagoya-Makapal-Arrovo)

sana nag suot ng ray-ban shades si garci… para kamukha nya si abu sabaya. oh di ba mas bagay sana.

ohmygoodness!

[…] SINCE resurfacing last week, former poll commissioner Virgilio Garcillano has gone public twice, portraying himself a victim and convincing television viewers that there is nothing wrong with the phone conversations he had with Pres. Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo in the May 2004 elections caught on tape in what has come to be known as the "Hello Garci" recordings. […]

wiretappings used as instruments for fighting corruptions, crimes and all illegals activities should be done legally in order for them to have force in the court of law. I just read a few blogs and just joined this blog journal but I noticed in some blogs that we forgot the basic principles of justice. your evidence obtained illegally, you have no case.
and here we hanged the man “garci” before we even tried him. Merci ..

jester-in-exile

…”i disagree that any principle of justice was forgotten”.

in my comment i was referring to how the case was unfolded. If i was not mistaken it started with the “hello garci” tape which was obtained by illegal means. I don’t deny that there were no illegal activities or even criminals that may or may not happened. Had all the parties to this crisis did their homework and started this case in the right note GMA had long gone and I should not be blogging about this subject.

I’m sorry if I have different perspective of justice system, but living most of my life in a country where even a serious criminal case is thrown out summarilly for illegally obtained evidence, even if corraborating evidence strong enough to support a conviction. That country is Canada. And naykika will be forever proud of how we settle our political crisis over here. Like grown and mature person, even we are just as young as my native country…

Naykika, it is not quite correct to say all this rap about Garci started with the Hello Garci tape. It all began in May 2004, when the discovery of discrepancies in the canvass certificates were completely ignored during the canvassing of votes in Congress. The dominant pro-Gloria congressmen brushed aside all attempts to even discuss the issue with a simple “noted”.

Things would have died down and the issue forgotten until the revelation of the Garci tapes and the incriminating clear voice of what is generally believed to be the President talking to Comelec Commissioner Garcillano. Those tapes substantiated the allegations of electoral cheating, and the admission of mental lapse by Gloria for being caught on the tape bolstered those allegations even more.

Those tapes were obtained illegally and people know they cannot be used as evidence in the court of law to prosecute the parties involved, but you cannot erase the perception in the minds of so many that a criminal act was committed in the wake of facts that had preceded those tapes.

If there are glaring evidences and testimonies of cheating from witnesses staring at your face you cannot remove the perception of cheating with or without the Garci tapes. I, for one, do not believe that cheating done in several hundred precincts elsewhere in Mindanao would have changed the outcome of the results from over 200,000 precincts in the country, but nonetheless, cheating was committed.

Do not think that we do things differently in appreciating the law on illegal evidence as done in your beloved Canada. And just as we have corruption in government, so too in PM Paul Martin’s government who just got a no confidence vote and dissolution of Parliament for having lost the moral authority to lead in the wake of corruption scandals.

kapatid,

Article III (Bill of Rights), Section 14, No. 2 of the 1987 Constitution states: “In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall be presumed innocent until the contrary is proved…”

this applies to anyone only in courts of law: TRUE.

IF garci is criminally prosecuted of lying and vote-rigging (in may 2004), of course, he’ll be presumed innocent at first. but he made himself scarce!!! the principle of “flight means guilt” may then be deduced from his actions.

this was cited above and repeated here: “The unexplained flight of the accused person may, as a general rule, be taken as evidence having tendency to establish his guilt.” (People v. Cirilo, 346 SCRA 648, December 1, 2000).

as long as he continues to “disappear,” garci is guilty of lying and vote-rigging: TRUE.

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…STILL, this forum is NOT a criminal proceeding and therefore one is allowed to reason whatever is in his mind. i just wish those thoughts come from a rational mind…

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“Garcillano is back in Manila” http://news.inq7.net/breaking/index.php?index=1&story_id=58778
First posted 02:40pm (Mla time) Dec 04, 2005

“Garcillano arrives in Manila” http://www.philstar.com/philstar/NEWS_FLASH120420054515_7.htm
12/04 3:20:51 PM

garci has “touched down” from his long “flight.” as the title of this post hails, it’s now time to greet him…

heard on radio:

a letter-writer to time mag commented that poor countries spend so much time in sports and entertainment…we’ve just been through with sports yesterday…

tomorrow, it’s yet another entertainment offering by our congress…when we see and hear garci being welcomed!

[…] Garcillano resurfaced in a televised interview just last week, after being in hiding for many months. […]

[…] The survey was conducted over eight days from November 27, the day former elections Commissioner Virgilio Garcillano resurfaced, denying charges of conniving with Arroyo to rig the 2004 presidential elections. […]