Evidence of 2004 poll fraud captured in photos?

These days, I am trying to entertain myself listening to talk show hosts in government-owned radio and tv broadcast firms, as well as playing a game of “spot the logical fallacies” on statements coming from President Arroyo and her lieutenants.

Two classics here.

Presidential Chief of Staff Mike Defensor does not hesistate to commit an “appeal to consequences” false argument when he frames Loren Legarda’s protest against Noli de Castro as a waste of some P186 million in public funds since the 124,400 ballot boxes containing protested ballots could not be taken from the Presidential Electoral Tribunal while Legarda’s protest is pending.

In the same breath, Defensor also commits the “association fallacy argument” by claiming that “the absence of election fraud manifested from the revision of ballots from the province of Cebu in the ongoing election protest of former Legarda against De Castro is the best evidence that President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo won fair and square in the 2004 presidential polls.”

How about pulling off the Chewbacca Defense next time, Mike? 😀

my two cents, while these pictures MAY show na nagkaroon nga ng dayaan nung election..they do not prove na si GMA ang nakinabang sa tampering base sa mga pinapakita sa mga larawan. Ooppsss..di sa nagbubulag bulagan, i hope lawyers here or law students could explain kung magagamit ang mga ito as evidence na nandaya nga si GMA nung nakaraang eleksyon.

…”PHOTOGRAPHS have surfaced that appear to substantiate allegations that election returns (ERs) were faked and switched with genuine ones to make it appear that Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo won in the 2004 presidential election. “

That’s right , Scud! I can’t wait to see this photographs properly examined in court particularly in a televized Impeachment proceeding And see how will they really stand!

Good question, Lokaloka.

Nawiwili na ata ang iba sa atin. Nauna na naman ang media makatanggap ng mga ganitong “ebidensya.” Look what happened to Ong. Sa wala din napunta ang mga efforts nya. I don’t know why, but trial by publicity only worked against Erap. It’s having a hard time working against PGMA.

The proper way of doing this is to present the evidences in a proper forum. Preferably, the members of the opposition, or militant organizations, who are willing to file an impeachment case against PGMA should be the ones to which these evidences are submitted. They will have the legal expertise needed to handle the matter.

Newsbreak and Malaya may be able to expose these photos, but knowing how PGMA had ignored all previous issues, this would surely lead again to nowhere.

But if these evidences are submitted to the concerned members of Congress, and hopefully the latter would learn from their mistake last year, then this may lead to something good.

manuel..di magagawa ni Raul Roco ang ganyan.

Another chance for the crooks at the lower house when another impeachment case will be filed against GMA. For sure millions of pork barrel for them, that’s the reason why the lower house is delaying the passage of the annual budget. Mabubusog na naman ang mga buwaya sa lower house mabuhay sila!! Ang kakapal ng mukha!! ang tatanga pa!!!

bloodyass,

do you know that you misspelled “Photoshop” with PHOTOSHOPPE? if you really are what you claim you are, such an elementary mistake!

o baka naman mali ang dinig mo sa idinikta sa iyo? just asking!

Elementary mistake as it is having a typo error, but it does not affect my experience, as far as familiarity with the program is concerned. In fact COREL DRAW suite 12 is much effective, efficient and more convenient to use in splicing than PHOTOSHOP program.

Baka PENNSHOPPE. Hrhrhrhr

I-disbar yang Atty. Roque Bello na yan.

sure, sure bloodyass, anything you say.

ladies and gentlemen, since bloodyass here has successfully impugned the veracity of these photos, go back to work! and don’t you ever again wonder why this country is in such a mess. you, yes you, you smart-alecky blogger, pocket your impish grin and lower your eyebrow, get a hold of your document which is probably long overdue for submission!

it’s all a matter of perception! the hello garci tapes are spliced! the photos are fake! it’s all a colossal mistake! long live the strong republic! May the queen reign forever and ever….

(handel’s messiah in the background)

Parang star wars, nauna ang sound track (hello..garci) bago ang movie (House videos) 😉

conscience? yun yata ang wala si GMA. Otherwise, she would not be doing these things she’s doing now to the very same people who helped her into her present position. On a lighter note, this only proves that GMA is a true Christian… she does not believe in karma.
bloodyass, this is not a simple photo editing thing that you wanted it to be. For the pictures to be taken seriously, there should be underlying circumstances or related events that reinforce them. The pictures are not the issue, they are one of those mitigating circumstances that defined the whole picture. If you still choose to ignore the total issue of GMA cheating in the 2004 elections, that’s your prerogative. But please don’t make an idiot out of us who may be more discerning, logical and objective.

BloddyAss,

I agree with you. Digital editing can be done with any photos, even videos.

But the point is, are these specific photos digitally edited? Di pa nga nasusuri ng expert, na-rule out mo na agad ang possibility ng authenticity.

unconfirmed breaking news tell that stormtroopers will break in newsbreak’s office…probably before dawn break…

mas mabuti tatlo sila. si nixon na nagresign at nag apologize.. si gloria na ayaw pa ring mag resign pero nag apologize at si erap na huli na… tanggi pa rin na nag resign at mag apologize…

magaling talaga mag=isip ang pinoy kaya lang di pa rin nag=iisip.. hehe…

next tym kahit sino pa ang presidente pag kinagat ang ganyan ebidensiya. kahit sino anytime pwede matanggal…tsk..tsk..

sino namang bobo maniniwala diyan kasi wla namang bobo na magpakuha na picture na kung ganyan ka illegal ang ginagawa nila na maaring silang maputolan na ulo pag nagkamali.. ahh mayron pala.. yung mga bobo nga nakikinig palagi sa tsismis

perhaps the person who took the pictures did so as an insurance policy …. baka nga napagutusan lang siya by his/her superiors or commanding officer so mabuti na yung may hinahawakan siya kung saka sakali.

perhaps i’m being too naive but i have to agree that the pics can be doctored or edited.

kasi ba naman … sino-sino ba yung ayaw lumabas ang katotohanan dyan sa resulta ng eleksiyon 2004.

rego said,

That’s right , Scud! I can’t wait to see this photographs properly examined in court particularly in a televized Impeachment proceeding And see how will they really stand!

If Mrs. Arroyo will go through a televised impeachment proceeding, that would be welcome news to us Filipinos. An impeachment trial would be the best and the most appropriate venue for her to answer all the allegations against her; like the Hello-Garci scandal, the fertilizer scam, etc. It should be televised so that the whole nation can weigh in. This is what the majority of us wanted her to do from the very beginning. She owes the Filipino people the TRUTH. But, the big question is, will Mrs. Arroyo do it? If she has nothing to hide, what’s the big deal? Any decent and innocent human being will have no qualms in facing any court, any trial, any probe, any investigation to clear his or her name. But, if a person is guilty or is hiding something, they will do anything and everything just to cover their tracks.

mahirap yung reason na kumuha sila nang picture para ma protect ang kanilang sarili.. mas lalong nilang ididiin ang kanilang sarili.. kasi unless nakuhaan mo pati si gloria. paano mo mailink siya kahit pa pabor sa kanya ang ginawa..

for example..

kahit na sumigaw ako dito na sana mamatay kung sino man ponsyo pilato.. pag may pumatay sa kanya ko na iba… kahit aaminin ko pa.. the court should still prove na ako mismo ang may kakagawan noon…

hirap e link iyan.

tama ka diyan coldfeet. tsismis lang yan. hindi naman iyan mapapatunayan sa korte.

for example din.

si glue-ria nakuhaan ng mga tapes na kausap si garci. umamin pa at nagsorry. still walang nangyari sa korte. binasura pa rin ng magagaling sa kongreso. sabi pa spliced yun. so, tsismis lang yun.

may link na nga absuelto pa rin sa korte. yan pa kayang mga photos na yan na hirap ilink kamo.

ganunpaman, may maniniwala sa tsismis na yan at may mga hindi rin maniniwala.

sabi nga pala ni nograles, noong isang taon pa inaalok sa kanila ang mga pictures na yan pero malaking halaga ang hinihingi. now, now, insurance ba ang dahilan o pera? bello, magsalita ka!

correction. hindi tape ang pinag-uusapan kundi ang mga photos. at hindi oposisyon ang nagsalita kundi si nograles na kaalyado ng malacanang. tama ka hindi sila poor at kayang-kaya nilang bayaran magkano man halaga neto. ang tanong mo dapat ngayon sa akin ay kung naniniwala ako na talagang inalok sa kanila eto. dahil kung pagiisipan nating mabuti, iba ang talagang intension ni nograles sa pagsabi neto at pagbanggit niya ng pera … mensahe yun para sa mga bobo… gets mo rin ba ang ibig kung sabihin?

Press Secretary Ignacio Bunye said the video was a rehash of an attempt to revive the old charges of election fraud against Arroyo.

“They had the chance to prove their case in the unsuccessful impeachment attempt, and now they’re trying to resuscitate this issue,” he said.

“We believe it’s time to set this matter aside so that we can attend to the more important business of the economy,” Buye added

Well see the NO Compromise to cheating, lying and stealing.. i doubt na papansinin yan ng mga opposition.. pipit bingi din sila sa issue na makakasakit sa kanila.. siguro ikaw.kasi buo pa ang prinsipyo mo…kaya lang pangit tingnan kasi na may kasabay mo ang mga wlang prinsipyo.. 100% percent ako hindi ito papansinin ni cory o sino man sa hanay nila.agree ako na wlang dignidad yang enrile na yan pero sino nga ba meron sa mga senadors ngaun.. heheh.. .basta let wait see nalang sa reaction nila kung meron man.. .may signs na nga of insomia si cory kasi kasama na nia si marcos at mga erap.. yan ba ang NO COMPROMISE… eh halos lahat na COMPROMISE

I doubt it very much if these so-called photos will convince or even touch the patriotic hearts of our honorable members of congress to submit an impeachment to the senate for trial. Leaders of Congress will be most likely affected by these photos ifever they are proven to be authentic since those ballot boxes are under their care and are even located inside the Batasan Pambansa building.And besides, the Speaker is very much busy preparing for the cha-cha while an impeachment trial will take some time. So, I don’t think they’re gonna waste their time on these.
Perhaps it would be most appropriate to submit evidences like these to the Presidential Electoral Tribunal. However, when shall the tribunal give its verdict nobody would know.

[…] FORMER Comelec Regional Director Roque Bello admitted today that the house that appears in a photo where election returns in the May 2004 polls were supposedly tampered with was his. But he denied an operation that manufactured election returns took place in his Cainta, Rizal home in December 2004 as reported in Newsbreak‘s latest issue. […]

naive ba kamo? ikaw ata ang naive para masabi mo na naive kami.

sa dinami dami ng mga nag post dito ng mga posibleng interpretasyon ng mga pics na ito, naisip mo nalang bigla na naive pa kami?

hinahangaan kita joserizal sa pag-amin mo na kasama ka sa mga nanloko ng bayan. sa pag-amin mo na ikaw ay nabayaran. maraming tarantado diyan na hanggang ngayon ay pilit pinagtatakpan ang kanilang mga ginagawang panloloko sa bayan. ikaw ay isang buhay na halimbawa isang pagpapatunay ng isang bulok na sistemang tunay na umiiral sa ating lipunan na pilit pinagtatakpan ng mga taong.ganid sa kapangyarihan. sana tuloy-tuloy na yang pagbabagong-buhay mo.

ako ay humahanga sa yo joserizal sa pag-amin mo na kasama ka sa mga nanloko ng bayan. sa pag-amin mo na ikaw ay nabayaran. maraming tarantado diyan na hanggang ngayon ay pilit pinagtatakpan ang kanilang mga ginagawang panloloko sa bayan. ikaw ay isang buhay na halimbawa isang pagpapatunay ng isang bulok na sistemang tunay na umiiral sa ating lipunan na pilit pinagtatakpan ng mga taong.ganid sa kapangyarihan. sana tuloy-tuloy na yang pagbabagong-buhay mo.

Jose Rizal,

Ikaw ay isang magandang halimbawa.

Pinapakita mo kung ano ang mali. Dahil sayo, lalong nawawalan ng kredibilidad ang comelec. Lalong nagiging kaduda-duda ang resulta ng 2004 elections.

Mabuhay ka. T***..

Sadly, joserizal has only confirmed to us what we already know about the Comelec (read our report here). What is supposed to be an impartial body, the constitutionally ordained guardian of the ballot no less, reeks of the politics of accommodation, one that has allowed politicians (including the President) to stack it with officials and staff that they have endorsed, who in turn do their political benefactors’ every bidding, including rigging election results in their favor.

BTW, joserizal, mind changing your alias? It demeans Rizal’s name and legacy.

Seems reminiscent of the “Great Election Robbery of 2004”, isn’t it?

In the end, all roads will lead to where the money is. Politics is business and business is politics, come to think of it.