April 14, 2006 · Posted in: 2004 Electoral Fraud, Gloriagate, In the News
Mayuga report silent on other top military officials linked to poll fraud
FINDINGS of the military fact-finding report made public Wednesday night that cleared the so-called “Hello, Garci” generals of any complicity in the alleged rigging of the 2004 elections are conspicuously silent on the other high-ranking military officers accused by a group of junior officers of having also involved in electoral fraud.
In August last year, the Young Officers Union of the new generation (YOUng) identified 10 officers of the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) suspected of participating in poll results manipulation to favor Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.
Aside from the four generals mentioned in the Garci recordings (Army chief Maj. Gen. Hermogenes Esperon, Southern Command chief Maj. Gen. Gabriel Habacon, retired Lt. Gen. Roy Kyamko, and retired Brig. Gen. Francisco Gudani), the YOUng also urged the fact-finding board headed by Vice Admiral Mateo Mayuga to investigate the following top AFP officials:
- Brig. Gen. Nehemias Pajarito, then colonel and commander of the 104th Brigade assigned to Sulu’s first district
- Brig. Gen. Nelson Allaga, then colonel and commander of the 3rd Marine Brigade assigned to Sulu’s second district
Allaga and Pajarito reported and took orders from Gen. Habacon, who was then the commander of the 1st Infantry Division based in Sulu, during the elections. The newspaper Malaya reported last year, quoting retired police general Ramon Montano, that Habacon had distributed funds to Commission on Elections officials, Allaga and Pajarito during the elections. Allaga and Pajarito, Montaño said, had also barred poll watchers from observing the canvassing.
Both Allaga and Pajarito have since been promoted to brigadier general.
It will be recalled that Allaga’s surprise appointment as Marine commandant sparked a protest among the ranks of the elite unit, leading to the seven-hour standoff in Fort Bonifacio last February 26.
Also on the YOUng list were the following officers:
- Navy Capt. Feliciano Angue, then head of Naval Task Force 62 operating in Tawi-tawi and now Navy operations chief
- Marine Lieutenant Colonel Fred Pelonia, commanding officer of the 1st Marine Battalion based in Tawi-tawi
- Marine Lieutenant Colonel Elmer Estopin, commanding officer of the 10th Marine Battalion based in Sulu
- Army Colonel Rey Arde
- Army Colonel Aminkadra Undog
- a Colonel Pereno
- a Captain Perez
Col. Pereno is believed to be Col. Gominto Pirino of the 5th Infantry Brigade, who replaced Brig. Gen. Francisco Gudani, now retired, as head of Task Force Ranao during the elections. Gudani testified at the Senate last year that his relief for no apparent reason was a maneuver by the Commission on Elections, with the help of top military officials, to “slacken” security in Lanao del Sur, leaving the door open to massive cheating in the province in the May 10, 2004 elections.
Pirino is also the same military official that Abdullah Dalidig, Lanao del Sur provincial chapter chair of the National Citizens’ Movement for Free Elections (Namfrel), identified as the one who approached him at the height of the canvassing in 2004, telling him not to report the election anomalies in the province.
In his affidavit submitted to the Senate defense committee looking into the “Hello, Garci” scandal, Dalidig divulged that Pirino went to the Namfrel office in Marawi City and advised him against exposing dagdag-bawas (vote padding and shaving) operations since:
“…being a townmate from Balindong, Lanao del Sur, he was promised to be promoted to general and many good things for me would be forthcoming but I didn’t listen to him, thinking that I would turn traitor to Islam, to my people and the Republic.”
Junior officers, who asked not to be identified, also criticized the findings of the Mayuga report. “Puro kasinungalingan yan, sir. Binaboy nila ang Marines, sir (It’s all lies, sir. They dishonored the Marines, sir).”
They also disclosed that during the investigation, Mayuga listed their names as resource persons to attest to the election anomalies. “We waited for that to happen pero di kami pinatawag. Ang gusto lang namin ay maibalik ang dangal ng Marines (We waited for that to happen but we were never called. All we wanted was to bring back honor to the Marines).”
A senior officer said that if Executive Order No. 464 will be lifted, a lot of those who might have personal knowledge of what happened might come out and follow the lead of Gudani and Lt. Col. Alexander Balutan.
Gudani and Balutan defied Arroyo’s gag order on executive officials, including the military, from testifying before congressional inquiries without her permission. Both are now facing court martial proceedings.
38 Responses to Mayuga report silent on other top military officials linked to poll fraud
Jon Mariano
April 14th, 2006 at 3:18 pm
It took 6 months to clean up the report. Kaya hayan, napakalinis tuloy.
scud_1975
April 14th, 2006 at 9:24 pm
I am not surprised. All right, Sir?
scud_1975
April 14th, 2006 at 10:07 pm
“We waited for that to happen pero di kami pinatawag. Ang gusto lang namin ay maibalik ang dangal ng Marines (We waited for that to happen but we were never called. All we wanted was to bring back honor to the Marines).”
– I sympathize with you, brothers. Iba talaga ang pakiramdam ng isang “helpless”, di ba? Mahira tlaga banggain ang mga Generals at Commodores na isasanla pati ang kaluluwa umangat lang ang ranggo. At ang sistemang ginagamit ang loyalty at brotherhood para pagtakpan ang mga kamalian ni “Sir”. Ang suggestion ko jan..RESIGN! dahil habang nanjan kayo, ang “Pledge of Loyalty” ang makakalaban ninyo..wala tayong karapatan kumalas sa Chain of Command habang nasa loob tayo ng serbisyo, yan ang hindi naiintindihan ng masa. “Pogi” ka for a while sa kudeta, but history will judge you otherwise..ang masama pa, kung bibigyan ka ng reward sa politikong kinampihan mo dahil sa baluktot mong paniniwala kokontrahin ka rin ng mga tao na dating pumuri sayo at sasabihing walang papel ang militar sa pulitika.
So, anong mapapala ng isang Junior Officer na naglantad ng mga baho ni “Sir”? Wala..dahil walang kakampi sayo. Get out of the system at gawin mo ang alam mong tama. An officer and a gentleman will remain an officer and a gentleman to the end kahit wala ka sa serbisyo.
tongue in, anew
April 15th, 2006 at 3:42 am
Mali ka naman diyan, Scud. To effect change in a system, you cannot be an outsider. Like any institution, the military cannot lick corruption should those who can institute the corrective measures choose to resign and work for reforms outside. Para matanggal ang bulok hindi mo dapat alisin ang matitino. Gaya sa cancer, ang tinatanggal ay ang tumor upang ang maiwan ay ang malusog at maayos na bahagi ng katawan.
Isa pa, bakit kailangang i-equate ang paglalantad ng baho ni Sir (at ni Ma’m) sa coup d’etat. That’s exactly the propaganda of the present tyrants in the seat of power. Stifling dissent by branding reformist officers as coup plotters and charging them before the military tribunal will do more harm to the organization as it only promotes the status quo where the padrino system rewards the incompetent but “loyal”, at the expense of the qualified but unconnected. I put quotes on the word loyal because the military sense of loyalty has now been degraded to loyalty to persons instead of loyalty to the flag and country.
Kelan pa naging baluktot ang paniniwala ng isang marangal na alagad ng bayan na ilagay sa tama at kaayusan ang isang samahang naliligaw ng landas? Ang baluktot, yung gamitin mo ang mga sundalong naatasan upang ipagtanggol ang bansa laban sa kaaway upang nakawin ang kaisa-isang pagkakataon ng bayang maiparinig ang kanilang hinaing, sa pamamagitan ng pagbaboy sa proseso ng halalan. The disease that has stricken all public servants, not just the military, is that they have forgotten whom they are supposed to serve. Ang taongbayan ang nagpapasweldo sa kanila, hindi si Gloria.
Tama ka, hindi kayo dapat kumalas sa chain of command. But this chain does not stop at the comander-in-chief. Ang taongbayan ang tunay na amo na dapat pagsilbihan ng kasundaluhan ng buong tapat, hindi lang ang kasalukuyang chain of command, hindi lang si Gloria.
Ultimately, the people are the supreme commanders. When the supreme commanders’ orders, written by hand on the ballots were switched with fake ones, or by dagdag-bawas, supplanted with unauthorized ones, wasn’t this chain of comand broken?
Kawal, sino ba ang dapat parusahan?
scud_1975
April 15th, 2006 at 4:16 am
Article II, Section III of the Constitution. – “Civilian authority is, at all times, supreme over the military. The Armed Forces of the Philippines is the protector of the PEOPLE and the STATE. Its goal is to secure the sovereignty of the State and the integrity of the national territory.”
Madaling sabihin, hindi po ba? Pero kung kayo kaya ang nasa posisyon namin..you want to help the PEOPLE you sworn to protect and at the same time you are ordered by the STATE represented by the Commander-in-Chief to do something illegal. Ano kaya ang gagawin nyo? Yes, the civilian authority is supreme over the military at ang mga tao ang nagpapasweldo sa amin..pero pag hindi ka sumunod sa order ni Sir at ni Ma’m pwede ka ipatapon sa Mindanao na malayo sa pamilya mo in just one stroke of a pen. Ano kaya ang gagawin nyo?
Very few people understand kung ano ang mga pinagdadaanan ng mga ordinaryong sundalo, ang isang paa nasa hukay habang nakikipaglaban pero ano nga ba ang natatanggap nila sa mga tordinaryong Pilipino na kanilang pinuprotektahan. Napakaraming “cheerleaders” kung gagawa ng maganda para sa bayan, pag kinasuhan naman ng mutiny wala ni isa man lang handang tumulong.
Ang mabuti pa..lahat ng mga Pilipinong kumukutya sa mga sundalo pumasok sa serbisyo para maranasan nila “First Hand” kung ano meron sa loob. Doon nyo malalaman kung bakit ko nasabi Mag-Resign ka na lang at gawin ang alam mong tama sa labas ng chain of command kesa kalabanin mo si Sir at Mam at tumanggap ng mapait na parusa, doon nyo siguro masasabi na hindi makakain ng pamilya nyo ang mga “congratulations” na binibigay ng mga tao.
primo
April 15th, 2006 at 7:33 am
ano kaya ang susunod na “regalo” ni “ma’am” kay “sir” …. balita ko mabenta daw yung mga trophies at medals dun sa may recto….
Toro
April 15th, 2006 at 8:49 am
Dapat lamang na lumabas sa military chain of command kung hindi rin lamang nila masusunod ang mga pinaguutos na sa kanilang palagay ay mali o kaya’y walang karapatang magsalita laban sa mga nagaganap na katiwalian sa loob ng military. Hindi paglabag sa batas ang mag resign ng commission bilang junior officers. Nararapat lang gawin ito upang silay’y malayang makapagsalita ng kanilang tunay na damdamin. At may pagkakataon pa rin na makabalik sa serbisyo na intact ang malinis na service record. Ngunit ang magalsa laban sa pamahalaan ay ibang usapan at maling pakikipagsapalaran. They are heroes if they win, court martial if they lose.
I think I know enough about the hardships of the lower level officers in the military having been associated with many of them playing tennis and golf at Aguinaldo.
Ang sa akin lang, bakit hindi nila naisip na higit na malaki ang impact sa taong bayan kung ang isang company o batallion-size na junior officers ang sama-samang nag-resign at lumabas sabay-sabay upang ipadama sa tao na hinihingi nila ang tunay na pagbabago di lamang sa military pati na rin sa pamahalaan. Marahil ang buong lansangan ng Edsa ay mapupuno ng taong bayan na suportahan sila. Malaking kamalian ang ginawa ng Magdalo ng nagtiwala sila sa mga senior leaders nila (Honasan?) na wala namang ipinanalong coup attempt na mamuno sa kanila at umasa sa financial help ni Erap upang makamit ang tagumpay. Ganoon din ang kinahinatnan ni Gen. Lim at Col. Querubin. Lumayo sa kanila ang suporta ng tao dahil nakita rin na kasapi sa kanila ang mga makakaliwa, kaakbay pa yong isa ni Querubin sa TV, at kasama pa ang samahan ng restore-Erap movement. Sa mata ng tao sila ay nagpagamit lamang sa mga gustong makabalik sa kapangyarihan kaya hindi sinuportahan ang kanilang layunin. May panahon pa mga junior officers. You are military specialists. For once, read the minds and sentiments of the people and not your self-serving leaders.
luzviminda
April 15th, 2006 at 8:55 am
Tutal hindi pwede humarap sa inquiries sa senado dahil sa EO 464 ang mga sundalo natin…Eh ano kaya kung magpa-pressconference na lang (o kaya in taped video) ang mga junior officers na ito at sabihin ang gusto nilang sabihin sa kanilang generals at sa taong bayan tungkol sa nangyaring dayaan nuong 2004 eleksyon…NA NAKATALUKBONG DIN ANG MUKHA!!! At syempre pati nameplate ano para safe. Pag hindi umubra, umpisahan na nilang mag-ala Oakwood na rin o kaya sa isang lugar tulad EDSA Shrine at susuporta at dadagsa na kaming taong bayan. Kung ngayon nangyari ang Oakwood incident, malamang na napatalsik na si Gloria!
lokalokang matino
April 15th, 2006 at 5:26 pm
luzviminda:
APPROVED KAMI DYAN.!!!! At sasama kami!!!
MABUHAY LAHAT NA UMAAYAW KAY gloria.
scud_1975
April 15th, 2006 at 9:57 pm
I just spoke with a fellow officer..I told him marami pa rin Pilipino ang sumusuporta sa kanila, sinabi ko rin na kung magpapatawag sila for civilian bodies marami pang pupunta. He just said.. TELL IT TO THE MARINES
freewheel
April 15th, 2006 at 10:18 pm
scud 1975:
2 argumento ang pwedeng masilungan ng mga magigiting nating mga sundalo:
NUMERO UNO — Article 2, Sec. 3 ng 1987 Konstitusyon (gaya ng binanggit mo sa itaas). kung ikukumpara mo ito sa 1935 at 1973 Konsti, mapapansin ang kakaibang hubog at pananalita nito. bakit? ang partikular na empasis o diin duon sa bigkas na ” … the armed forces is the protector of the PEOPLE and the STATE” . mas matingkad ang pagbibigay daan duon sa puntong PEOPLE kaysa sa STATE.
una, sa interpretasyon ng mga batas sa buong mundo (universally accepted principles), malaking bahagdan at importansya ang nauna sa mga titik kung dalawa ang pagpipilian. ibig sabihin, kung kinakailangan mamili ang sandatahang lakas (armed forces), ang nasabing seksyon ng Konsti. ang malinaw na giya (guide)- minamanduhan ang sandatahang lakas para pumabor sa taumbayan (people).
pangalawa, kung natatandaan mo, ang Konsti na ito ay bunga ng EDSA 1 at ang partikular seksyon na ito ay inpluwensyado sa pagkalas ng ‘chain of command’ nina gringo, tabako, atbp. inspirado din ang seksyon na ito sa pag-aklas ng taumbayan laban sa isang pasistang diktador, kaya nga dito nagbunga ang katagang ‘People Power’…
pangatlo, ang pangalawang aspeto ng ‘universally accepted principles’ ay ang pag-alam sa intensyon (o mga intensyon) ng sumulat ( o mga sumulat) at nagbalangkas ng saligang batas. matatandaan, na ang nasabing seksyon ay may isa sa pinakamahabang (kasama ang agraryo sa lupa) deliberasyon sa kasaysayan ng 1987 CON-CON (sina Munoz-Palma, Brocka, Padilla, Tadeo, Braid, Gascon, atbp. ang mga nanguna dito). ang mga kwestyon/tanong kung sakaling may pagpipilian, ito ay natalakay ng mga nagbalangkas- matingkad at nauuna ang kahalagahan ng interes ng taumbayan- People over the State Principle.
pang-apat, HINDI AKSIDENTE ang bersyon na sinusulat ng komite on Constitutional Amendments sa pangunguna ni Rep. Jaraula na nagsasaad na “…the Armed Forces is the protector of the State and the fundamental rights of the People”. Malaking-malaki ang pinagkakaiba at implikasyon nito kumpara sa 1987 Konsti. Bakit?
pang-lima, HINDI AKSIDENTE ang bersyon ng mga kaibigan ni GMA, Constitional Consultative Commission na pinamumunuan ni J. Abueva ibalik sa pananalita at hugis ng 1935 at 1973 Konsti ang seksyon na may kinalaman sa sandatahang lakas. Kailangan pa bang itanong kung, BAKIT?
NUMERO DOS — ang ” NUREMBERG TRIALS” . ang mga pasista katulad ng mga heneral at iba pang opisyales ni Hitler, laging kinakatuwiran na sila ay sumusunod lamang sa mga utos ng mga nakakataas sa kanila (your chain of command). Ito ay hindi tinanggap at gawing rason upang pagtakpan ang mga krimen laban sa sangkatauhan (crimes against humanity)- binitay ang mga ito.
Hanggang sa ngayon, ito ay kinikilala bilang konseptong giya ng International Court of Justice sa paglilitis laban sa mga disipulo ng tiranya- Milosevic, atbp.
sa pagtatapos at sa aking personal na pananaw, ang mga suliranin ng mga opisyal at karaniwang kawal sa loob ng sandatahang lakas ng pilipinas, ay HINDI BAGO at HINDI ITO EKSKLUSIBO (exclusive). maraming bansa ang dumaan nito, pero kanilang naig-pawan at naipag-wagi ang mga saloobin at interes ng taumbayan, na kung saan sila ay kabilang din dito. ang tanong, bakit di kayang gawin ng sundalong Pinoy?
P.S. on 1987 Constitution, i never have an extreme liking to it. it is too wordy, open-ended and full of ambiguities, save for the Section on Armed Forces tackled above. The framers should have incorporated a separate provision giving ” … rights to the people to BEAR ARMS”.
scud_1975
April 15th, 2006 at 11:09 pm
Sang-ayon ako sa interpretasyon mo tungkol sa PEOPLE at STATE na nasasaad sa saligang batas. Maliwanag naman talaga na mas nakakaangat DAPAT ang interes ng mamamayan bago ang Estado. Kaya nga nasa Section 1 ang “Sovereignty resides in the PEOPLE and all government authority emanates from them.” Di ako kontra dyan. But because of of Presidential System of Government na ang Commander-in-Chief ay ang Pangulo who represents the State, di nyo ba naiisip na ang nakasulat sa constitution is more of a THEORY than a REALITY? Yan ang isang problema ng kumokontra sa Charter Change, ayaw nilang palitan mula sa presidential system..pero ayaw rin nilang magamit ang military sa pulitika.
THEORY: Minamanduhan ng taumbayan ang sandatahang lakas para pumabor sa taumbayan.
REALITY: Ang mga nakakataas na opisyal ang nagbibigay ng Mission Order, May kakayahang maglagay sa Floating Status, May kakayahang magtransfer at may kakayahang magbigay ng Restriction.
Wala bang Pilipino na magtatanong man lang sa mga Constitutionalist natin? Na nasusulat sa Saligang batas sila ang mas nakakaangat sa mga sundalo pero hindi sila makapagbigay ng order? Hindi ba sila kikilos para gawing malinaw at isama ang isyu na to para sa charter change? Aminin man natin o hindi, na ang mga sundalo nagagamit sa pulitika na hindi naman nararapat. Kaya kung sino man ang dapat umaksyon para maputol ang bulok na sistema na pagsunod sa chain of command hindi yan dapat manggaling sa mga sundalo. Dapat yan pasimulan ng mga Ordinaryong Pilipino na binibigyan ng mas mataas na otoridad kesa saming mga sundalo. Kami ang susunod sa mga tao, hindi ang mga tao ang susunod sa amin. Dahil habang walang ginagawa ang mga tao, hindi nila dapat sisihin ang mga ordinaryong sundalo na sumusunod lang sa chain of command, sabagay hindi nga pala alam ni Juan dela Cruz ang mga salitang “That’s an Order” at “Obey First before you Complain”.
Kung talagang gustong i-klaro ng mga ordinaryong mamamayan ang nakasaad sa saligang batas na ‘CIVILIAL AUTHORITY, IS AT ALL TIMES, SUPREME OVER THE MILITARY” . Baguhin natin ang konstitusyon at alisin ang Presidente bilang Commander-in-Chief
lutongmakaw
April 15th, 2006 at 11:53 pm
Actually, our soldiers are aware of their rule as far as protecting the constitution, the people and the state are in concern. Even during the 2004 election, a lot of our principled Generals, junior officers and soldiers in the field are already aware of the cheating going on in varying degrees and in various parts of the country. However, they failed to take immediate actions because of their inherent training of following the chain of command and their basic tenets in following orders and questioning later ( in fact one wonders if they have the gall to question their superior officers).
The stand off in fort bonifacio is one classic example of believing in such tenets in military training; and sadly to say, it was this training that are being capitalized by GMA and her minions of corrupt generals in the Armed Forces of the Philippines and in the Police Organizations.
The Mayuga report, sanitized as it was is just a piece of scrap to continue to fool the people.
I think, the dignified officers and soldiers of the Armed Forces are just waiting for the catalyst from the people to trigger the uprising to save the constitution, the people and the State as what they have vowed and sweared as Filipino soldiers.
We were struck of taking active participation because of the CPR and 1017 as declared and promulgated by GMA to save her ass from being thrown out in Malacañang Palace. We can however have a non violent protest against the usurper in the office by starting to perpetrate civil disobidient to paralysed the government. We should stop paying our taxes, boycott the plebisite if ever the PI is declared constitutional by the SC, boycott businesses of those who are supporting the PI…etc… we need not go out the street to face the riot police who are hampered by their blind obidience in the chain of command. All we need is a no-nonsence campaigned to arrive at these goals.
Here is an inspirational site in the life of Mahatma Gandhi he whom by advocating civil disobedient had successfully liberated his country from the hands of a tyrrant government. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohandas_Gandhi
tongue in, anew
April 16th, 2006 at 2:52 am
Kakainis! Ang haba ng na-type ko, tapos “Server not found”. DI ko na ma-retrieve. Waaaaa!
scud_1975
April 16th, 2006 at 4:20 am
Dagdagan ko lang ang argumento ko tungkol sa DILEMMA na mga Junior Officers na naiipit sa pagsunod sa nakasulat sa Saligang Batas o pagsunod sa Commander-in-Chief.
REPUBLIC ACT NO. 7055
AN ACT STRENGTHENING CIVILIAN SUPREMACY OVER THE MILITARY BY RETURNING TO THE CIVIL COURTS THE JURISDICTION OVER CERTAIN OFFENSES INVOLVING MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE PHILIPPINES, OTHER PERSONS SUBJECT TO MILITARY LAW, AND THE MEMBERS OF THE PHILIPPINE NATIONAL OFFICE, REPEALING FOR THE PURPOSE CERTAIN PRESIDENTIAL DECREES
“Section 1. Members of the Armed forces of the Philippines and other persons subject to military law, including members of the Citizens Armed Forces Geographical Units, who commit crimes or offenses penalized under the Revised Penal Code, other special penal laws, or local government ordinances, regardless, of whether or not civilians are co-accused, victims, or offended parties which may be natural or juridical persons, shall be tried by the proper CIVIL court, EXCEPT when the offense, as determined before arraignment
by the civil court, is SERVICE-CONNECTED, in which case the offense shall be tried by COURT-MARTIAL: Provided, That the PRESIDENT the Philippines may, in the interest of justice, order or direct at any time before arraignment that any such crimes or offenses be tried by the proper civil courts. ”
Maliwanag sa Title ng batas ang Civilan Supremacy over the military. Pero kung babasahing mabuti ang batas..kung Service Connected hindi na sakop yan ng Civil Court, sumasailalim na sya sa Court Martial. Ang masakit pa ayon sa batas, dahil nga nasa Presidential Form of Government tayo, ang Presidente ng Pilipinas ang mag-uutos kung saan dapat sila litisin. Military Tribunal ba o Civil Court? O di ba, sa totoong buhay mas lumalakas ang kapangyarihan ng Presidente kesa sa Civilan kung? Pwedeng sabihin ni Ma’m na Service Connected ang pagbalasa sa militar sa panahon ng eleksyon gaya ng mga nababasa nyo sa report ni Mayuga.
So pano, magpapatuloy pa rin ba tayo sa Presidential System of Government at ang Presidente ng Pilipinas ang Commander-in-Chief ng militar?
tongue in, anew
April 16th, 2006 at 5:04 am
Wala sa pagiging Commander-in-Chief ng presidente ang problema. Lalong wala System of Government ang dahilan ng krisis pulitikal ngayon.
Ang problema, si Gloria mismo.
Halos lahat naman ng demokrasya, ang pinuno ng bansa ang pinuno ng militar. Kahit pa parliamentary ang gobyerno, kung ang prime minister ay matino, walang problemang ganito. Kung parliamentary man at si Gloria rin ang nakaupo, anong pagkakaiba ang aasahan mo?
Ang problema, swapang si Gloria. Mandaraya, magnanakaw, sinungaling pa.
Imulat ninyo ang inyong mga mata na ang 3 natitirang bansa sa Southeast Asia na talunan ng Pilipinas sa ekonomiya ay parliamentary ang gobyerno. Wala sa anyo ng pamahalaan ang ikinabubuti ng isang gobyerno. Nasa mga pinuno nakasalalay ito. Hindi Cha-cha ang sagot sa problema.
Ang sagot, patalsikin ang Donya.
scud_1975
April 16th, 2006 at 5:26 am
I beg to disagree. Do some research. Hindi halos lahat ng pinuno ng bansa sya rin ang pinuno ng militar under parliamentary.
rego
April 16th, 2006 at 9:25 am
Eto ang mahirap, kasi pinagpipilitan na si Mrs Arroyo ang problema…..Kaya malaki ang tsansa na mali na naman ang magiging solution sa problema . ( mapaalis si Mrs Arroyo solve na ang problema) . Hope this is a just a part of the learning process……
scud_1975
April 16th, 2006 at 11:47 am
Sa isang Sistemang Presidential na gaya ng Pilipinas..ang Head of State, Head of Government at Commander-in-Chief ay nasa ulo ng iisang tao.. Yan ay nasa Presidente. Hindi gaya ng sistemang Parliamentary na ang Head of State ay ang Presidente, ang Head of Government ay Prime Minister at ang Commander-in-Chief ay kadalasan nasa Minister of Defense. At wag sana tayo padadala sa maling akala na magiging Prime Minister si Gloria dahil hindi sya myembro ng Parliament, ang Prime Minister ay nanggagaling sa Members of the Parliament.
Bago sana tayo magalit kung bakit may kakayahang mag issue ang Pangulo ng EO 464 na nagbabawal sa mga Department Head na magpunta sa Senado na walang clearance basahin muna natin ang Constitution
Article VII, Section 17. “The President shall have control of all the executive departments, bureaus, and offices. He shall ensure that the laws be faithfully executed”
At kung bakit naman may kakayahan ang pangulo bilang Commander-in-Chief na magbigay ng utos sa mga sundalo at magdeklara ng state of rebellion basahin ulit natin ang constitution
Article VII,Section 18. “The President shall be the Commander-in-Chief of all armed forces of the Philippines and whenever it becomes necessary, he may call out such armed forces to prevent or suppress lawless violence, invasion or rebellion”
Maliwanag sa sistema, na kahit hindi si Gloria pwede pa rin mangyari ang krisis na hinaharap natin ngayon kahit sino pa ang maging presidente. So ano ang dapat gawin? Revise o Ammendment sa Constitution, at bawasan ang kapangyarihan ng Executive Department.
Toro
April 16th, 2006 at 3:57 pm
Matagal na nating naririnig na patalsikin si Gloria, si JDV, si Mike Arroyo at kung sino-sino pa. May nangyari ba? Wala. Napakadaling sabihin na ang may kasalanan ay si Gloria, ang Opposition, ang mga komunista, sila Erap kaya dapat din itong palitan. May nangyari din ba? Wala pa rin. Matagal na din nating naririnig na ‘let’s all go to Edsa!” May sumunod ba? Wala. Tuwing Friday nagkalat ang text messages na magkita kita daw sa Metro Walk, o sa Luneta, o sa Eastwood, o kung saan saan pa para magpakita ng instant protest ang mga middle class. Nagdagsaan ba ang tao? Hindi. Lahat na halos ginawa mula pa ng People’s Court (Kangaroo Court ang tawag ng iba) sa UP. Pinansin ba ng nakararaming tao? Hindi. Bakit ba naman papansinin eh iba-iba ang kulay at layunin ng samahan na nag buklod nito kaya’t watak pa rin ang mga tao sa kanilang paniniwala.
Sa ngayon ang charter change ang pinagtutuunan ng pansin ng Administrasyon. Bagamat sangayon ako sa pagamienda ng ilang mga provisions sa Constitution specifically those that are needed for economic reforms, hindi ako naniniwala na ang shifting of govt to parliamentary is the panacea for all that ails our political and economic systems. Ang sa akin lang, na sa uri pa rin ng mamumuno ang magdudulot ng mahusay o masama na pamahalaan. Halintulad na lang natin sa Comelec, di ba maayos naman ang alituntunin nito ngunit ng pinasukan ito ng mga taong may masamang hangarin di nga ba’t tuluyan na itong nasira at pati tao ay nawalan na ng tiwala dito? Ngunit kung ang mas nakararami ang may nais sa parliamentary sa pamamagitan ng plebiscite o referendum tanggap ko na rin ito sa aking paniniwala that majority rules.
Ngunit sa pangangahas ng administrasyon na gapangin ang pagpasa ng charter change isa na ako na hahadlang na sana’y hindi makapasa ito sa plebiscite at i-reject ng bayan sa dahilan na kulang na kulang sa paliwanag ang tao kung papano makakabuti ang parliamentary para sa bayan. What is so urgent that the parliamentary must be in place in July. We have waited this long why can’t it wait for next year? The people must be fully informed. The only reasonable excuse I can see is with the parliamentary in place in three months the impeachment provison will no longer exist. If the idea is to save Gloria the intent and purpose is indeed highly immoral and despicable.
Papano pa masasagot ang katanungan na mabawasan ang kapangyarihan ng Pangulo at iba pang mahahalagang bagay kung ang parliamentary becomes fait accompli na at naisalin na rin ang kapangyarihan sa takdang mamumuno nito at hindi man lang alam natin kung ito ba’y susunod sa French form or British or what. Kung ganito din lang ang mangyayari mabuti pa ay ipaglaban na huwag makapasa ang charter change sa plebiscite at ipagpaliban na lang sa ibang mas naaayos na panahon. For all those failed efforts seeking GMA’s resignation, dapat ipakita ng tao ang kanilang paghihimagsik sa pamamagitan ng pag reject sa charter dhange. This is your chance to show your contempt.
rego
April 16th, 2006 at 9:14 pm
totoo ka, toro, nakakainis talaga ng ginagawang hararapang pag mamanipula para mamabago ang constitution para lang maiwasan ang impeachment sa July. Kung ako lang sana ang masususnod. Dapat maimpeach muna si Mrs Arroyo bago tayo mag palit ng constitution of form of government….
scud_1975
April 16th, 2006 at 9:42 pm
That’s my point exactly, sa dami ng paraan na ginawa ng Pinoy walang naging successful para patalsikin si Gloria. I am pro-impeachment, pero maging realistic tayo..tingin nyo ba talagang isinusulong ang Cha-cha para makaiwas si Gloria sa impeachment? Para sakin hindi, kasi alam ko wala syang dapat katakutan sa impeachment dahil sya ang LYAMADO. Palagay nyo ba tuluyan na maiimpeach ngayon taon si Gloria? Palagay ko hindi dahil ganun pa rin ang mga bumubuo sa kongreso at ganun pa rin ang mga isyung ilalatag ng oposisyon. Ang akin lang, d ko masyado pinapansin kung ano man sabihin ni JDV..walang kredibilidad ang taong yan. Pero sige, kung talagang ayaw ng tao ng Charter Change yan ang masusunod. Isip na lang ang oposisyon ng ibang gimik habang tuloy-tuloy lang ang sigaw ng GLORIA RESIGN, maghintay na lang muna si Juan dela Cruz na matapos ang krisis bago mabigyan ng pansin. At sana man lang, wag na ulit tawaging apathetic ng mga mabababaw nating kababayan ang mga di sumasama sa istilo nila.
naykika
April 17th, 2006 at 3:18 pm
Hi everyone, posting here besides dozen of kids at internet cafe at brookside hills in the neigborhood of atty bello residence and it’s scorching hot. My only other comment this time its nice to be home and taste the real San Miguel. Anyways, it may be true that most heads of the government in most form are also the commonder-in- chief, but military decisions are usually undertaken by the cabinet and the prime minister in the case of parlimanetary system, upon the reccomendations of military top brass. That is following the wisdom that military men are the people qualified to put forward options for their commander-in-chief to choose from. And I am just wondering why a military officer investigating the alleged wrongdoings of another military offficers? The results were obvious before they are released. Meanwhile time to cool off and hit some beer garden. hi scud its hot hot how’s the true north?
scud_1975
April 17th, 2006 at 9:32 pm
Hi naykika, finally spring is here. No more winter blues! hehe. Wow, nakakainggit naman San Miguel mo..its still the best beer in the world for me. Walang binatbat ang Heineken at Budweiser.
Anyway, back to topic. It’s really important to inform the Filipino people kung ano ang magiging lagay ng Piipinas kung sakaling maging Parliamenary system tayo at sa magiging epekto nito sa AFP. The Head of Government may not be The Head of State (imho, pang ceremonial lang). At ang magiging Commander-in-Chief ay military person mismo at hindi politiko. In our present system, where the promotions of Generals are under the whims and caprices of Commision on Appointments, and the ordinary soldiers are being used as human shields of politicians..pano natin masasabing dapat apolitical ang AFP?
Cecile Impens
April 20th, 2006 at 2:53 am
The President is the Commander-in-Chief of the Arm Forces of the Philippines, all right! But the support of the military to Arroyo had gone too far: lying and deciving the people. Is there something left for the citizens to continue in their involvements to the future of the country? Not that much, unfortunately! Arroyo and her bandits even robbed the Filipinos of their basic rights, their votes! No wonder why the military is losing their reputation. They don’t deserve it anymore, least entitled even to a respect!
Toro
April 20th, 2006 at 8:23 am
It is not fair to give a sweeping repudiation of the entire military establishment for the sins committed by a few who allowed themselves to be used by and be subservient to ambitious political leaders. It is precisely that there are dissensions within the military between those largely in the majority who want to follow the rule of law and those few high officers who do not, and the only thing that holds the establishment together is that thinning chain of command that many of them do not want to be broken. Respect not the rascals in the military, but the establishment deserves absolute support.
zoemahn
April 21st, 2006 at 6:38 pm
You can talk and talk about this and many other issues that plague the country since Marcos took over and have the military taste power and money till thy kingdom come and all you’d achieve is a humongous collection of words. Myriad of editors, columnists, newswiters, opinion makers, newscasters, and commentators from all the available media, including school organs and NGO newprints, report in painstaking details on the ails and travails of the country every single day, in most kind of styles, good and/or bad, for more than a quarter of century now, and what has the whole exercise produced- a country that continues to spin down to the abyss. Everyone knows the situation and real score. Only those with vested interests sugar-coat reality. The late Teddy Benigno till his death never gave up the fight to enlighten the citizenry of what it had been, what it was then, and what it could and would be, day in and day out, in his daily column. And he ended up with practically nothing. Now comes the latest medium of the internet that is supposed to have more readership among the upper crust of the society, and what do you get- more of the usual-DADA-AN and DAKDAKAN from here to eternity. The mountain labors and all it produces is a mouse.
Even the village idiots know what the real problem of the country is. No need to beat a dead horse. The French did what was necessary. The Russians did it too. We all know that the problem is not the DRIVER but rather the VEHICLE. No matter how good a driver you put in a dilapidated car, the car won’t go far. On the other hand, if the vehicle is in tip-top condition, the driver won’t matter. Look at BUSH…..U.S.A. still hums despite of him. But if we are going to change our car, might as well get a good driver to make sure that the car is driven well and properly.
We have a saying in the vernacular that goes: ” Kung hindi makuha sa santong dasalan, daanin sa santong paspasan”. Someone else cited Lim Seng. Good example. People usually remember very well and intently when they see an event associated with blood. I say let the heads of the THIEVES of the country roll. (It will take probably months to complete the task). And finally to the procrastinators, “A-anhin pa ang damo, kung patay na ang kabayo?”
Toro
April 21st, 2006 at 10:19 pm
Gulayin ang damo, ilaga ang kabayo. Okay, ba?
zoemahn
April 21st, 2006 at 11:17 pm
OKs na OKs……pero mas mabuti kung ibitin ng patiwarik matapos litsunin yong gugulay ng damo at maglalaga ng kabayo….tapos gawing fertilizer sa pagpapataba ulit ng damo para merong makain yong natitirang buhay na kabayo. Nang sa gayon. meron na namang magugulay at malalaga ang mga dakdak-ng-dakdak at sarsarita ng sarsarita na wala namang pinatutunguhan. Aprub ba, bro?
Toro
April 22nd, 2006 at 2:44 pm
Aprub na aprub.
zoemahn
April 23rd, 2006 at 12:11 am
So mote be, bro, so mote be….OK ka Toro!
Toro
April 23rd, 2006 at 7:18 am
Make sure lang yong damo hindi tulad ng binebenta sa Pasig tiangge ni Mayor. heheh. Have a great weekend bro.
zoemahn
April 23rd, 2006 at 8:44 am
Si bro naman….kung masamang damo yon, e, di mamamatay ang toro nyan! Ha ha ha….definitely naman, bro, aanhin pa natin ang damo kung wala na si TORO?
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Urgie F.
July 22nd, 2006 at 9:28 pm
Nothing is really hidden from God, and despite the hallucination and illustion of Usuper Gloria Arroyo that she is God ‘s annointed as what she said. Gloria is more clever than Lucifer. We all know the truth of how she cheated and squandered public funds in the last election. One these funds in fact are the monies paid for by the OFWs all over the world.
Now our country, is conisderd as number
exporter of humans on earth and/or nations of nanies. Gloria corrupted or prostituted everythings; the CBCP, military, tongressmen, etc. AS ,long as Gloria and her cohorts still in Malacanang they will continue to deceive the people and lead our country to distruction. We could not expect the report of Mayuga, that’s already cooked.
From the passage of Holy Bible, hebrews 4:13 ” Nothingd is all creation is hidden from GOD’s sight everything is uncovered and laid bare before theyes of HIM to whom we must give account.”
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Makulit na pinoy
August 19th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Naku naman ha ako din ako umaasa pa na may mangyayari pa dyan. Alam na alam nila ang takbo ng mga batas kaya napapa ikot tayo ng mga yan. Kung minsan kitang kita na natin ang mga kalokohan nila pero ano bang nagagawa natin? Tayo pa ding mga mamayan ang kawawa sa bandang huli. Sana naman maparusahan ang mga may sala para ipakita sa mga tao na puspusan ang kanilang adhikain na linisin ang gobyerno para di na tularan. Ito na ang tamang panahon para naman makapamuhay ang bawat filipino ng marangal at wala ng nagugutom. Ang sanhi talaga ng mga pagnanakaw sa gobyerno natin ang nagiging dahilan ng gutom ng bawat mamayan. Nakakaawa talaga ang mga pinoy..sana matigil na ang iringan bagkus gawin sa aksyon ang nararapat at tama na din ang “conspiracy” dyan. Lahat ng sangkot idamay para wala ng utangan ng loob sa susunod at makita natin ng lubos kung sino ba talaga ang tapat sa serbisyo ng may takot sa diyos at makabayan. God bless us all!