August 29, 2006 · Posted in: Charter Change, Congress Watch, In the News
Signatures in Sigaw ng Bayan petition ‘fabricated’
THE STOP Chacha movement yesterday showed what it claimed to be proof that signatures — annexed to the petition in support of Charter change — have been “fabricated.” In Makati, for example, some signatures were of deceased individuals; others were affixed more than once, and some were forged.
“The proponents of Charter change committed fraud, used government funds, and used every trick in the book in order to comply with the three-percent requirement in every congressional district,” Senator Franklin Drilon said, in a forum held at the Club Filipino yesterday morning.
The Sigaw ng Bayan Movement and the Union of Local Authorities of the Philippines filed the petition before the Commission on Elections (Comelec) last Friday, seeking the verification of 10 million signatures gathered since March in a campaign to amend the Constitution through a people’s initiative. (Read the petition.)
In a people’s initiative, a petition for amendments requires the signatures of 12 percent of all registered voters and at least three percent of voters in each congressional district. Sigaw claims it was able to verify six million signatures, which is 14 percent of the population.
Makati City Mayor Jejomar Binay said that based on Makati’s experience alone, he can confidently say that the proponents of Charter change failed to comply with the three-percent requirement as the “fraudulent” process of signature-gathering puts into question all of the results.
In the first district of Makati alone, of the 43,405 signatures gathered by Sigaw, only 7,186 signatures were verified. “This means 36,219 signatures are fraudulent,” Binay said. And of those Sigaw said it was able to verify, around 10 belonged to the dead, some were forged, and some names appeared twice in the same forms.
Binay said people were also given P500 each and rice and noodles in exchange for their signatures. Some signed because the they thought their support was being solicited for an AIDS campaign as even the officers who solicited their signatures wore lab gowns. Binay claims that barangay officials in Makati who participated in the signature campaign were paid P3,000 each and coordinators, P1,000 each.
“If this was done in Makati, imagine how they did it in the provinces,” Binay added.
In an opposition he submitted to the Comelec last Saturday, lawyer Sixto Brillantes Jr. gave the same reasons as basis for the dismissal of the Sigaw petition. (Read the opposition.)
He said there is “overwhelming evidence” to prove that:
- Numerous signatures were affixed on the basis of deliberate misrepresentation by representatives of the petitioners
- Signatures were affixed by reason of illicit monetary considerations or the giving of various things of value
- Signatories were not appropriately briefed as to the true and real import of signature affixing process
- Signatures were gathered through direct intervention of elective and appointive public officials and with the use of public funds
Brilliantes said in his opposition that the use of public funds was in “glaring violation of the requirement that the initiative must be purely the undertaking of the people.”
Binay also alleged that two or three days before nationwide barangay assemblies were held, money for the signature drive was deposited in Land Bank accounts in the names of governors and mayors.
Even the signature verification process was “anomalous,” Binay said. In many provinces, signatures were not even verified, he explained.
And worse, in many instances, there were no signature gatherings at all, Brillantes said. “What were submitted for verification were falsified, forged and fabricated signatures.” He said local elections personnel confined their verification on “mere appearance” of signatures and not on “a truly actual verification or confirmation of the authenticity” of the submitted signatures.
“We are asking the Comelec to at least allow the STOP Chacha movement to present evidence showing that the three-percent requirement has not been complied with,” Drilon said, “The Comelec should (also) give (us) an opportunity to examine the signatures and dispute the certification of the Comelec registrars.”
The Sigaw petition
Meanwhile, Comelec chair Benjamin Abalos earlier said the commissioners will still have to meet en banc before any decisions on the Sigaw petition will be made. He said Comelec cannot verify the 10 million signatures submitted because of a 1997 Supreme Court ruling which bars the poll body from entertaining petitions for a people’s initiative in the absence of an enabling law.
The verification of signatures, if upheld, will pave the way for a plebiscite to approve revisions to Articles VI and VII of the Constitution and a new Article XVIII of Transitory provisions, as stated in the Sigaw petition.
The main features of the petition, as summarized by former Senator Vicente Paterno yesterday, are the following:
Articles VI and VII
- Abolish the senate and create a unicameral Parliament
- Term of members of parliament shall be five years without limit to number of term
- The executive power shall be exercised by a Prime Minister
- A President is Head of State, without executive functions since these will be vested in Parliament
Transitory provisions
- The incumbent president and vice president shall serve until the June 2010 and shall continue to exercise their powers under the 1987 Constitution
- The interim Parliament (without executive powers) will consist of incumbent Senators and Representatives and Cabinet members
- Within 45 days from ratification of these amendments the Interim Parliament shall convene to propose amendments to or revisions of this Constitution
- The incumbent, Chief Executive shall nominate, from among the interim Parliament, an interim Prime Minister, who shall be elected by a majority vote of the member
- The interim Parliament shall provide for the election of the members of Parliament together with all local government officials (year of this election is not specified)
Paterno explained that the Transitory Provisions, particularly the one that states that the President shall exercise powers till 2010, effectively delays the implementation of revisions on Article VI and VII which states that executive power shall be exercised by the Prime Minister.
“This means that during the incumbency of Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, the parliament won’t have executive powers,” Paterno explained, “The mode of transition from presidential to parliamentary should provide for the executive powers of the President to decrease (and not the other way around).”
“Who really wants the Chacha? The benefits of which to the incumbents — from the President down to the mayors — are very clear: their term will be longer and the date of elections will be up to them. But what will it benefit the Filipino people?” Paterno raised.
Sigaw however maintains that the shift to a unicameral-parliamentary system “will effect a more efficient, more economical, and more responsive government.”
Meanwhile, House of Representatives Speaker Jose de Venecia said the Lower House will resume its parallel move to amend the Charter, which will run side by side with the Sigaw petition. He earlier told reporters that he needed only six signatures to achieve the required 195 signatures to convene a constituent assembly. The number represents three-fourths of the total 232 congressmen and 23 senators.
Drilon reiterated that the legislature operates under a bicameral system and therefore, there is no basis that the Lower House alone can act as a constituent assembly to amend the Constitution. In March, 51 congressmen filed a resolution declaring that the two chambers must vote separately before any amendments could be introduced.
27 Responses to Signatures in Sigaw ng Bayan petition ‘fabricated’
Ambuot Saimo
August 29th, 2006 at 3:21 am
What kind of people do this administration congressman have? Are they still humans or they already morphed to become animals because of eating so much “pork”. They will do everything to stay in power even if that means thrashing the constitutional firmaments established for a healthy democratic system of governance. Consider these:
They trashed the CONSTITUTION by dismissing the impeachment not on the merits but through sheer “numbers game”;
Now they want to trash the SUPREME COURT by proceeding with the Chacha even if the Supreme Court prohibits it for lack of standard or enabling law;
And now De Venecia wants to proceed with the Chacha by converting congress into ConAss by getting 3/4 vote of the whole congress (senate and house combined) as opposed to each house voting separately in contravention again to the mandate of the CONSTITUTION.
Given these kind of attidude, do not be surprise if next time they will pass a law granting them CONGRESSMEN FOR LIFE.
LET US ACT NOW BEFORE IT HAPPENS BY NOT OUR PAYING TAXES OR CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE. WHEN OUR MONEY IS NOT BEING USED AS INTENDED, IT’S OUR RIGHT TO STOP PAYING. LET’S NOT BE AFRAID OF BEING IMPRISONED FOR NON-PAYMENT OF TAXES IS NOT A CRIME INVOLVING MORAL TURPITUDE. IT’S POLITICAL. YOU WILL NOT LOSE A STRAND OF YOUR PRIDE AND DIGNITY BUT WILL GAIN MORE.
IF ALL OF US (OR EVEN HALF) WON’T PAY TAXES, THEY CANNOT IMPRISON US BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT HAS NO RESOURCES TO ACCOMODATE US. AND/OR IF THEY DON’T WANT TO IMPRISON US LET US INSIST UNTIL THESE SHENANIGANS (mga anak ng ‘INA nila)RESIGN/REMOVED FROM OFFICE.
Helga
August 29th, 2006 at 8:41 am
Civil disobedience can be a good thing, Ambuot Saimo, but at this time, for a myriad reasons, it doesn’t seem that we have the critical mass to make it effective.
May I suggest a more subtle idea proposed by Lito Banayo? Simple and mindful of those who are still iffy about leaving their comfort zones – in case you get one of those Php200 bills with GMA’s dad on it when receiving change, don’t accept it. Ask for two Php100 bills, or another denomination.
The message – we want no part of GMA or her family.
Manuel L. Quezon III: The Daily Dose » Blog Archive » The swarm
August 29th, 2006 at 9:43 am
[…] Speaker proclaims he’s 2 signatures shy of attempting his own, novel interpretation of the Constitution. Meanwhile, senate hearing today, even as various petitions opposing the so-called “people’s initiative” are filed. The initiative, some groups claim, are riddled with fake signatures (see also the PCIJ report). A Comelec employee, jamesjimenez, says the poll body is now in a pickle. comelec AKO, who also works for the Comelec, says the various opposing petitions contain strong arguments. […]
joselu
August 29th, 2006 at 10:01 am
Such a funny group the characters who protest about anything & everything.
If it’s not the impeachment now it’s stop chacah.
But it always boils down to the issue of personalities.
As if those protesting have all the answers & better proposals to give.
Instead, since they never had anything from day 1. It is always a fact that a greater number of people don’t take them seriously.
It’s just a group making silly acts of protest. Acts so subjective to their own fillings or perhaps incapability for change or evolved or is it just their great attachment to defending the “status quo”
I really think we should give change a chance.
What are this “professional protesters” defending anyway?
Obviosly they & the opposition share the same ideas.
It’s also clear that the opposition is not an alternative given how irresponsible & incompitent they are.
jester-in-exile
August 29th, 2006 at 11:23 am
presenting, ladies and gentlemen, the 2006 SpecOps.
jester-in-exile
August 29th, 2006 at 11:59 am
erratum: no longer is it correct to call it “special operations”; shouldn’t we rather call it “normal operations?”
helga, a suggestion:
sigaw is all about signatures of those supporting ChaCha (with GMA as the dancing queen, lambino as lord of the dance?). why do we not create a counter-campaign:
the contention is that 12% of the whole country’s voters, with 3% of each local district must have signed, and each signature verified as correct.
therefore, if a signature on the sheet is invalid, even just a single one on any single sheet, then the “initiative” cannot claim authenticity. ergo, the “initiative” is fraudulent and therefore invalid.
thus, a legal means might be:
I DID NOT SIGN SIGAW NG BAYAN’S “PEOPLE’S INITIATIVE”
have it notarized. i’ll sign up.
jester-in-exile
August 29th, 2006 at 1:08 pm
From Fake signatures mar Cha-cha signature drive, ABS-CBNNews.com:
of course it exceeds the requirement! why? because:
now:
whether it is true that the signature drive was “sabotaged” or not, the drive has become tainted and therefore invalidated, counselor. i’m sure you know where to shove the sign-up sheets now, then.
Juan_at_Bandila
August 29th, 2006 at 1:30 pm
Pwede ba Joselu, mag F7 ka mali spelling mo and di ko kaya maintindihan sinasabi mo, the way you write I think it is you who is funny and silly, think you have to visit your doctor in Mandaluyong…..
joselu
August 29th, 2006 at 2:29 pm
ok juan, palibasa wala ka lang masagot, hehehe, kaya patulan mo na lang whatever you can pick on
jr_lad
August 29th, 2006 at 5:40 pm
“I really think we should give change a chance.”
whatabout changing our cheating, lying and stealing president first before we talk of cha-cha?
and here’s a comical news item:
Arroyo to PRC: Punish nursing test cheaters
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=48692
Juan_at_Bandila
August 29th, 2006 at 7:08 pm
Sabi ko na nga ba, sounds like kakaiba ka…. anyway Mr. Joselu, look at the very foundation of the people who are pushing this “Peoples Initiative” sino ba si Mr. Lambino, di ba sya ang isa sya sa mga drafters ng Charter Change kasama sya ng UP President na si Prof. Abueva, sino ang nasa likod sumusulong ng Charter Change di ba mga Local Government Official, so where is this a simple Juan Dela Cruz Initiative????? Did you ask yourself Joselu where did this local gov. get this fund, pagkain, papel, ballpen at iba pa,,,,
Go Joselu go figure it out…..
So ok na tayo my comment na ako,,,, ay naku sabi ng mama ko wag daw ako pumatol sa sira ulo kasi magiging sira ulo din ako,,, tsk tsk,,,, I think I have to consult now a doctor too….
Ambuot Saimo
August 29th, 2006 at 10:31 pm
J at B, huwag mo na lang patulan ‘yang si Jose Pidal y Lulec a.k.a JoseLu. Full time Malakanyan operative ‘yan assigned solely to this blog hiding his identity by mispellings kaya iisa lang ang direksyon ng leeg. Masakit man sa ulo basahin ang kanyang mga blogs but it’s his signature. Sinasadya ‘nya yon mispellings para sumakit ang ulo mo at umalis ka.
Helga, how about wearing black arm bands to signify mourning over the death of democracy in Pinas. It’s least costly and can effectively send the message. If majority of the people e.g. commuters, street people, workers & office workers wear the arm band especially in Metro Manila it will catch the attention of the whole world that Gloria has no mandate and indeed stole the presidency.
tongue in, anew
August 31st, 2006 at 3:20 am
Maganda na rin sana ang STOP CHACHA pero kailangan tapatan iyang People’s Initiative ni Lambino ng:
PEOPLE INIS-SA-THIEVES ni LambiMo
(“lambi”: Tagalog for penile foreskin)
shamir_2480
August 31st, 2006 at 8:27 pm
Why do we need charter change?
The usual response would mention the economic restrictions in our constitution and the current destructive political structure with a weak party system.
But what makes charter change a must is the fact that we are currently maintaning an obsolete and totally irrelevant institution.
I’m talking of course about the Philippine Senate. Forget the fact that it mainly consists of “weirdos” and that their performance when it comes to passing important bills is dismal. Let us investigate why we have a senate in the first place!
Most of us are well aware that our system of government was copied from United States. When United States was still in its infancy, delegates from original 13 colonies met and discussed myriad of issues including what should consist their legislature.
One group pushed the idea that the legislature should be composed of representatives from each district. But another group argued that with this arrangement, bigger states like New York will overpower smaller states like Vermont. The opposing group believes that the legislature should be composed of equal number of representatives from each state.
As a consensus, the American legislature became bi-camaral. The superiority in number of representatives of the bigger states at the lower chamber is now countered by the equal number of representatives at the upper chamber.
In the Philippines, our senators does not represent a specific constituency. The rationale on why the American senate exists cannot be used to justify the existence of our own. Well in fact the existence of Philippine senate has been a source of destructive political bickering, a hindrance to the passge of important bills and adds burden to our complicated system of government.
The Philippine senate is now but a vestigial institution. A product of blind copying of American system. We need a massive overhaul in our system of government. It’s time for a parliamentary, uni-camaral system of government.
Ric G. Galvez
shamir_2480
August 31st, 2006 at 8:34 pm
Hus!
Bakit Makati City City lang at San Juan lang ang nagreklamo? Alam nating baluarte yan ni Binay at Estrada.
Ambuot Saimo
August 31st, 2006 at 10:51 pm
Shamir, I (and I would say majority of the Pinoys) agree that indeed there is a need to overhaul our system of government; that unicameralism is more effective and less expensive; that our constitution should be more adaptive or compliant with the current changes of time like the globalization of the economy, etc.
However, when effecting such a fundamental change of a system, it should not be done in haste just for the purpose of advancing a group of individual’s motives or design just like what the current ChaCha proponents are now pushing. They may be doing it in good faith but given the current political situation, the would-be-effect of the change and their being identified with the current administration the people cannot avoid but subject them to “suspicion”. Hence, to avoid such a suspicion and have a semblance of neutrality it should be done through a Constitutional Convention no matter how expensive it will be.
Also, I agree with Sen. Pimentel that such a change should be made when our heads are already cooler unlike this time where we are so much divided.
jester-in-exile
September 1st, 2006 at 8:46 am
on the issue why we need a senate? the times that are show how its existence is justified.
do we have political parties that are formed based on issues and ideologies? in the main, they are not, and the current laws are silent on turncoatism. unless one is willing to have a rubber-stamp parliament beholden to malacañang — how very reminiscent of the days of yore — the senate’s existence provides the necessary check and balance in the legislative, considering how little the legislative checks and balances the executive, and how few are the oppportunities for the judiciary to do the same.
amendments, i believe, to fine-tune the 1987 charter are fine. a total overhaul? no bloody way. for all its flaws, its fine the way it is, bar a few details.
what we need is an overhaul of political landscape, not the political system.
shamir_2480
September 1st, 2006 at 9:31 pm
Ambout Saimo…truly only fools rush in. But those people from the opposition would like you to think that cha-cha is something that it’s not. The opposition accused PGMA that cha-cha is her way to escape impeachment. The opposition would like to paint the worst of the available scenarios to such extent that they become imaginary. More like Alan Peter Cayetano’s strike agaisnt the First Gentleman.
Bal-an mo daw pareho lang na sa pag utot sa elevator. Mahapos ang magpasibangod kabudlay mapamatu-od.
Interestingly, the call for charter change was initiated by PGMA some moments later after assuming office largely because of the politically chaotic EDSA II.
shamir_2480
September 1st, 2006 at 9:38 pm
Jester-in-Exile,
i’m confused with the structure of your argument.
Why push a justification that I clearly refuted?
Using the “check and balance” argument to justify the existence of our senate is stale and stupid. There is nothing for senate to check and balance in the first place!
Saying that the judiciary has “few” oppurtunities to serve as a check and balance is neither half-true, quasi-true nor wholly true. And you should know that, of course.
Cecile Impens
September 2nd, 2006 at 4:03 am
Indeed this government is never been short of ideas on how to cheat the people. What made this administration decides that a mere 3% of the voters is enough to represent the voice of the whole population? What about the 97% majority? And the manner used to gather the signatures is disgusting!
It is only proper for those people whose signatures been illegally included in this ChaCha petition to expose this anomally to the media to make the whole country aware of the cheatings and manipulations of Arroyo to deceive the people. And if possible, these persons should pool themselves together to file a case against the offenders. This “fake people initiative” is the last thing the country is needing: we need serious overhauls and reforms in the compositions of the government: and that means the politicians, the roots of all the country’s chaos.
tongue in, anew
September 2nd, 2006 at 4:51 am
Ang sagot ni Shamir sa isyu ng pekeng petisyon, e ang hiniram kay Ric Galvez na “Why do we need charter change”. Kita nyo ba ang usual pattern?
Juan_at_Bandila
September 2nd, 2006 at 3:01 pm
Why do we need charter change????
tongue, kita ko, basang-basa, kita naman natin lahat na mabibiyaan ng mahabang termino ang kasalukuyang nakaupo ngayon pag natuloy ang chacha, si Shamir talaga a.k.a. Joselu….. Alam ng 97% ng kabuuhang Pilipino maliban lang siguro kay Shamir and disadvantage na mangyayari kung magpatuloy ang chacha. Makikita naman natin sa chacha primer.
Alam naman ng 97% na kabuuhang pilipino kung gaano katalamak ang mga admin congressman at si Sen. Lito Lapid….
Alam 97% na kabuuhang pilipino kung gaano pinapatay ang mga journalists at mga political ideologists…..
Alam 97% na kabuuhang pilipino kung gaano tinago at kung paano binaboy ni Gluria ang katotohanan… Elections scam, corruption, and killings…..
Now tell me Shamir a.k.a. Joselu, ano ba klase kaluluwa mo, maitim or mas maitim??????
tongue in, anew
September 4th, 2006 at 6:54 am
J&B, madaling makita talaga. Mahirap lang kung nagbubulag-bulagan. By the proposed amendments, Gloria will be given more powers even Marcos could have only wished for.
She becomes strong president up to 2010, with or without a prime minister, can declare martial law without concurrence of congress, and she can’t be stopped, not even by the Supreme Court, in case she declares it based on false grounds.
She can later become Prime Minister in 2010 til kingdom come.
She, and her bootlickers in Joe DeV’s House, can rob us all blind, without the Senate to stop them.
She, and her fertilized bunch, can cancel elections in 2007, and forever, should they desire.
She marginalizes the Supreme Court and abolishes the Senate, so much for transparency, accountability, and checks and balance, and equality of the branches of gov’t.
She cannot be impeached forever and ever. The pro-chacha are rationalizing that she can easily be removed by a vote of no confidence which takes several hours if not days to happen; she can dissolve parliament with her signature in a few seconds.
She, and if she allows it – her minions in parliament, can stay on forever and our lives,and that of our children, and our children’s children, and so on, will be decided by one party who gets more numbers, Lakas or Kampi – both her allies. The opposition? Who said there will be opposition?
She will sell millions of hectares of our territory to foreigners who cannot even buy a single square meter of land today. Mindanao will obviously be sold to the oil-rich Arab countries who do not have farmlands to produce their food, or oceans that provide them with fish. That is her vision of a federal Philippines.
She becomes Chairman of Emeritus of all corporations. All businesses will have to be incorporated under Pidal, Inc. or else face closure.
We will all be monitored via our National ID, cellphone calls and text recorded against our registered SIM cards, internet users like you and me, will be given a permanent IP address so that all our blogs will be monitored, that is if blogs like PCIJ will be allowed under her new “constitutional dictatorship”
She will have the power to make the following appointments, as lobbied by her puppies:
Mike Arroyo will be Gambling czar, with casinos, legalized jueteng, cockpits, horseracing, dogracing, even frogracing, under his watch. Stanley Ho can now build casinos in the Reclamation Area along the most expensive street in the universe called Macapagal Blvd., and in every street corner of every barangay.
Mikey Arroyo will be State Minister for the Super Region of North Luzon concurrent with Minister of Taxes.
Lito Atienza will be State Minister for the Super Region of Metro Manila.
Luis Villafuerte will be State Minister for the Super Region of South Luzon.
Iggy Arroyo will be State Minister for the Super Region of Visayas
Prospero Pichay will be State Minister for the Super Region of Northern Mindanao.
Propspero Nograles will be State Minister for the Super Region of South Mindanao.
Garci will be Minister of Elections.
Jocjoc Bolante will be minister of Agriculture concurrent with Minister of the Central Bank.
Manny Pacquiao will be Special Minister for Sports.
Lito Lapid will be Special Minister for Movies and Television.
Ricardo Manapat will be Special Minister for Records and Professional Regulation.
Nora Aunor will be Special Minister for
Alcohol, Drugs, and Tobacco.
Chavit Singson will be Minister of Justice.
The military and police will be reunified and officially become her personal security force…against the people.
Rallies, strikes, labor unions, talk shows, commentaries, and blogs will be outlawed.
Guimaras Island will be transformed into State Penitentiary – no need to clean it anymore.
Liquid fertilizers will be given to farmers for free, delivered frozen, like dry ice, which evaporates quickly.
All airports and piers shall be named Gloria 1, Gloria 2, etc.
All classrooms will accomodate 300 students, 100 per shift, the 10PM to 2AM will have 5 coffee breaks.
To eliminate poverty, those earning below minimum wage shall be killed.
To demonstrate her strong peso, the exchange rate will be permanently pegged to P1 = $1
All surveys shall be outlawed.
All laws shall henceforth be deemed repealed until determined by either Chavit Singson or Sir Raul O. Gonzales as legal.
Finally all those who have read and agree with this post shall be arrested and shot on the spot.
Juan_at_Bandila
September 4th, 2006 at 2:43 pm
This Glue-ria and her minoins are a real devil, I can’t imagine why Cory has to urge us to pray for this devils, sana sinabi nya magtirik tayo ng itim na kandila, para sa kaluluwa nilang maitim…..and para naman yung kidlat na sinasabi ng admin tongressman ay tumama sa kanila…wag sa kawawang sumisigaw ng katarungan…
I was really upset, the impeachement is gone, and now they are pushing Chacha to complete their evil mission. Ang malaking tanong paano na si Juan Dela Cruz mamuhay ng matino and may pag-asang guminhawa na we all know na this Chacha effect will bring Juan Dela Cruz go down. Tongue is right… Si Jose Rizal, Andress Bonifacio, Juan Luna, and iba pang bayani pinaglaban na wag sakupin ng dayuhan ang ating Inang Bayan, itong peste na bayan pilit ibenebenta ang ating mga lupain sa banyaga dahil sa pagsusulong pagbabago ng saligang batas, iwan kung bakit merong Joselu, Shamir, na nagdedefend pa nito, its just a common sense and patriotism sana kahit konti, or just konting consyensya sana magkaroon sila, Alam kahit nino man na itong ginagawa ng Admin ni Glue-ria ngayon is really wrong and an abuse of power, from impeachment process to pushing of Chacha.
Well ano pa ba ang dahilan….
Money and power is all about….. Greed…..
Kabayani
September 19th, 2006 at 8:30 pm
Jester’s idea to counter-campaign the sigaw ng bayan campaign is a good suggestion to prove the authenticity of the said sigaw ng bayan’s claim. However, doing so will just ignite another form of rejection and opposition to those who truly signed and supporting the chacha campaign, at walang katapusang batikusan, tirahan, at silipan ng kung ano anong legalities na naman.
Let me ask you guys, ano ba mang yayari kung ipalagay na natin na naging valid at authenticate ang lahat ng mga signature? Ibig sabihin ba non, panalo na ang mga pro cha cha? This means mapapalitan na ang sistema ng gobyerno natin? Ibig sabihin ba nito na the next day eh simula na ang charter change??? As far as I know nde pa naman diba? Mag kakaroon pa ng plebesito? Please correct me if im wrong.
Ganun pa man, kung may plebesito pa, nangangahulugan lamang na pag bobotohan pa ng taong bayan kung tuloy or nde ang plano ng chacha! Tama po ba ako? Can someone enlighten me on this query, pleaseeee? Thanks!
INSIDE PCIJ » Deception and the Sigaw initiative
November 3rd, 2006 at 10:30 am
[…] Other anti-Charter change groups also said there were lack of verification of signatures in several legislative districts. The Alternative Law Groups (ALG), a coalition of 18 legal resource organizations, found that signatures gathered in at least nine provinces were either not properly verified or not verified at all by local election officials. Others alleged there were irregularities in the collection of signatures in cities like Makati, where even signatures of people “long dead, in prison, abroad, and other forgeries appear on the Sigaw ng Bayan signature sheets.” […]
beetlejuice21179
December 12th, 2006 at 8:55 pm
Hindi natin kelangan ng cha-cha. sa totoo lang! kaya yang sina lambino at mga kasama nya..tumigil na sila dahil sa totoo lang, fake naman ang mga pirma dyan! pati estudyanteng walang kamalay-malay na umatend ng mga symposiums, naka-pirma dyan. At masama, baka sina Quezon, Magsaysay, Bonifacio o Rizal, nakapirma dyan. At meron akong kaibigan at kakilala na nagta-trabaho sa LGU na chu-chu ni GMA. Sinabihan sila na pumirma, iba-ibahin lang style para di daw obvious (owwwsss!!!)
Nweys, buti na lang yung boss ko sa opposition kaya di ako naka-pirma dyan.