Mrs. Aquino’s statement

Iyan ang mahirap kay Cory Aquino. Palagay niya ay siya lang ang pinakikinggan ng Diyos. Tila ba nais niyang ipahiwatig na kung di siya sasama sa pagkilos ng mga tao ay di ito magtatagumpay. Huwag nating kalimutan na isa siya sa mga nakipagsabwatan sa pagluluklok kay arroyo sa malacanang. Hindi siya pipiyok laban kay gloria dahil may posisyon ngayon si peping cojuangco at si tingting cojuangco sa pamahalaang arroyo. Tama na, sobra na ang pagkukunwari mo na ikaw ay banal na tao! Isa kang salot sa bayang ito. Habang buhay si Cory Aquino at FVR di titino ang bayang ito.

I agree, it seems that Mrs. Aquino thinks that those who seek the ouster of GMA do not rely on the power of prayer. It would have been better, in my opinion, if she had gone out and supported PGMA, not this play-it-safe-behind-the-sanctity-of-prayer excuse. But, just like the rest of us, she has a right to her own opinion, and I respect that. haay naku.

just plain DOUBLE STANDARDS. kung feel lang niya. maybe in 2001 she felt Erap had no respect for. No relatives were in government positions. They got no contracts. Thats pure and simple. She is asking will I benefit if I oust GMA. GREED

i for one am praying that the guilty be charged and justice be served.. i cant believe shes taking a holier than thou safe side to this…hinde na cguro sya dapat makigulo pa, tutal gnagamit lng sya as political leverege. if shes not going to support one group or the other she shouldve just stayed quiet and abstain from releasing words that contradict herself.

prayer is different from person to person, and not all prayers are granted.. she sed her prayer has never failed her or the nation.. she should look at reality.. isnt this situation a perfect example of a failure. a failure to some, are a prayer fullfilment to others. u pray for truth, justice, but hinder its wake.. what are u praying for in the first place?

hohumm… aquino na naman….kelangang pangalagaan ang pagkakabalik sa angkan niya ng halos lahat uli ng hacienda luisita….

pray na lang uli tayo….

Excuse me rin po with all due respect mam cory, let’s be true to ourselves. is requesting a cheater/thief to return what he/she stolen unconstitutional? Mam, you should have at the very least read the transcript of the tapes before you prayed. No amount of prayers can change the fact that GMA cheated in the elections and tried/still tries to cover up that fact. We cannot have a set of standards for Marcos and Erap and a different one for GMA. I wonder if you will have the same reactions if ERAP or MARCOS were the ones caught talking with a comelec official? It is very easy for evil to triumph, all it takes is for good people to just stand at the sidelines, do nothing and go on with their lives. What more if the supposedly good people in our society supports it. Indeed GOD HELP US.

ewan ko kung totoong dasal ang alam ni cory. ewan ko rin kung totoo rin ang dasal ni cardinal sin. mga kabayan, basahin nga natin itong munting datos kung ano ba talaga ang paniniwala na gusto nilang mabasa at paniwalaan din natin: kung mali ang mga itinuro ng mga pusakal na mga lahi ni padre damaso pakisuri na lang kung ano ba talaga ang totoo sa ating simbahang katoliko. lumaki akong ang daming tanong sa simbahang katoliko.

Christianity: Who Invented The Trinity ?
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By Aisha Brown

The three monotheistic religions– Judaism, Christianity, and Islam– all purport to share one fundamental concept: belief in God as the Supreme Being, the Creator and Sustainer of the Universe. Known as “tawhid” in Islam, this concept of the Oneness of God was stressed by Moses in a Biblical passage known as the “Shema”, or the Jewish creed of faith: “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord.” (Deuteronomy 6:4)

It was repeated word-for-word approximately 1500 years later by Jesus when he said “…The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord.” (Mark 12:29)

Muhammad came along approximately 600 years later, bringing the same message again: “And your God is One God: there is no God but He, …” (The Qur’an 2:163).

Christianity has digressed from the concept of the Oneness of God, however, into a vague and mysterious doctrine that was formulated during the fourth century. This doctrine, which continues to be a source of controversy both within and without the Christian religion, is known as the Doctrine of the Trinity. Simply put, the Christian doctrine of the Trinity states that God is the union of three divine persons– the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit– in one divine being.

If that concept, put in basic terms, sounds confusing, the flowery language in the actual text of the doctrine lends even more mystery to the matter:

“…we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity…for there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, another of the Holy Ghost is all one…they are not three gods, but one God…the whole three persons are co-eternal and co-equal…he therefore that will be saved must thus think of the Trinity…” (excerpts from the Athanasian Creed).

Let’s put this together in a different form: one person, God the Father + one person, God the Son, + one person, God the Holy Ghost = one person, God the What? Is this English or is this gibberish?

It is said that Athanasius, the bishop who formulated this doctrine, confessed that the more he wrote on the matter, the less capable he was of clearly expressing his thoughts regarding it.

How did such a confusing doctrine get its start?

Trinity in the Bible

References in the Bible to a Trinity of divine beings are vague, at best.

In Matthew 28:19, we find Jesus telling his disciples to go out and preach to all nations. While this “Great Commission” does make mention of the three persons who later become components of the Trinity, the phrase “…baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost” is quite clearly an addition to Biblical text–that is, not the actual words of Jesus– as can be seen by two factors:

1) baptism in the early Church, as discussed by Paul in his letters, was done only in the name of Jesus; and

2) the “Great Commission” was found in the first gospel written, that of Mark, bears no mention of Father, Son and/or Holy Ghost–see Mark 16:15.

The only other reference in the Bible to a Trinity can be found in the Epistle of I John 5:7. Biblical scholars of today, however, have admitted that the phrase “… there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one” is definitely a “later addition” to Biblical text, and it is not found in any of today’s versions of the Bible.

It can, therefore, be seen that the concept of a Trinity of divine beings was not an idea put forth by Jesus or any other prophet of God. This doctrine, now subscribed to by Christians all over the world, is entirely man-made in origin.

The Doctrine Takes Shape

While Paul of Tarsus, the man who could rightfully be considered the true founder of Christianity, did formulate many of its doctrines, that of the Trinity was not among them. He did, however, lay the groundwork for such when he put forth the idea of Jesus being a “divine Son”. After all, a Son does need a Father, and what about a vehicle for God’s revelations to man? In essence, Paul named the principal players, but it was the later Church people who put the matter together.

Tertullian, a lawyer and presbyter of the third-century Church in Carthage, was the first to use the word “Trinity” when he put forth the theory that the Son and the Spirit participate in the being of God, but all are of one being of substance with the Father.

A Formal Doctrine Is Drawn Up

When controversy over the matter of the Trinity blew up in 318 between two church men from Alexandria–Arius, the deacon, and Alexander, his bishop– Emperor Constantine stepped into the fray.

Although Christian dogma was a complete mystery to him, he did realize that a unified church was necessary for a strong kingdom. When negotiation failed to settle the dispute, Constantine called for the first ecumenical council in Church history in order to settle the matter once and for all.

Six weeks after the 300 bishops first gathered at Nicea in 325, the doctrine of the Trinity was hammered out. The God of the Christians was now seen as having three essences, or natures, in the form of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

The Church Puts Its Foot Down

The matter was far from settled, however, despite high hopes for such on the part of Constantine. Arius and the new bishop of Alexandria, a man named Athanasius, began arguing over the matter even as the Nicene Creed was being signed; “Arianism” became a catch-word from that time onward for anyone who didn’t hold to the doctrine of the Trinity.

It wasn’t until 451, at the Council of Chalcedon that, with the approval of the Pope, the Nicene/ Constantinople Creed was set as authoritative. Debate on the matter was no longer tolerated; to speak out against the Trinity was now considered blasphemy, and such earned stiff sentences that ranged from mutilation to death. Christians now turned on Christians, maiming and slaughtering thousands because of a difference of opinion.

Debate Continues

Brutal punishments and even death did not stop the controversy over the doctrine of the Trinity, however, and the said controversy continues even today.

The majority of Christians, when asked to explain this fundamental doctrine of their faith, can offer nothing more than “I believe it because I was told to do so.” It is explained away as “mystery” — yet the Bible says in I Corinthians 14:33 that “… God is not the author of confusion …”

The Unitarian denomination of Christianity has kept alive the teachings of Arius in saying that God is one; they do not believe in the Trinity. As a result, mainstream Christians abhor them, and the National Council of Churches has refused their admittance. In Unitarianism, the hope is kept alive that Christians will someday return to the preachings of Jesus: “… Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve.” (Luke 4:8)

Islam and the Matter of the Trinity

While Christianity may have a problem defining the essence of God, such is not the case in Islam.

“They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity, for there is no god except One God” (Qur’an 5:73). It is worth noting that the Arabic language Bible uses the name “Allah” as the name of God.

Suzanne Haneef, in her book What Everyone Should Know About Islam and Muslims (Library of Islam, 1985), puts the matter quite succinctly when she says “But God is not like a pie or an apple which can be divided into three thirds which form one whole; if God is three persons or possesses three parts, He is assuredly not the Single, Unique, Indivisible Being which God is and which Christianity professes to believe in.” (pp. 183-184)

Looking at it from another angle, the Trinity designates God as being three separate entities — the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. If God is the Father and also the Son, He would then be the Father of Himself because He is His own Son. This is not exactly logical.

Christianity claims to be a monotheistic religion. Monotheism, however, has as its fundamental belief that God is One; the Christian doctrine of the Trinity — God being Three-in-One– is seen by Islam as a form of polytheism. Christians don’t revere just One God, they revere three.

This is a charge not taken lightly by Christians, however. They, in turn, accuse the Muslims of not even knowing what the Trinity is, pointing out that the Qur’an sets it up as Allah the Father, Jesus the Son, and Mary his mother. While veneration of Mary has been a figment of the Catholic Church since 431 when she was given the title “Mother of God” by the Council of Ephesus, a closer examination of the verses in the Qur’an most often cited by Christians in support of their accusation, shows that the designation of Mary by the Qur’an as a “member” of the Trinity, is simply not true.

While the Qur’an does condemn both trinitarianism (the Qur’an 4:171; 5:73) and the worship of Jesus and his mother Mary (the Qur’an 5:116), nowhere does it identify the actual three components of the Christian Trinity. The position of the Qur’an is that WHO or WHAT comprises this doctrine is not important; what is important is that the very notion of a Trinity is an affront against the concept of One God.

In conclusion, we see that the doctrine of the Trinity is a concept conceived entirely by man; there is no sanction whatsoever from God to be found regarding the matter simply because the whole idea of a Trinity of divine beings has no place in monotheism. In the Qur’an, God’s Final Revelation to mankind, we find His stand quite clearly stated in a number of eloquent passages,

“… your God is One God: whoever expects to meet his Lord, let him work righteousness, and, in the worship of his Lord, admit no one as partner.” (the Qur’an 18:110)

“… take not, with God, another object of worship, lest you should be thrown into Hell, blameworthy and rejected.” (the Qur’an 17:39)

— because, as God tells us over and over again in a Message that is echoed throughout ALL His Revealed Scriptures,

“… I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore, serve Me (and no other) …” (the Qur’an 21:92)

TITA CORY, hintayin ko ang tawag mo ha… I-congratulate mo rin ako for “the passion of my speech and sincerity of my convictions…”

asa bahay lang ako tonight, feel free to call me anytime. wala na ako pang-gimik, yung sweldo ko na halos kalahati e nakaltasan na ng tax at premium sa gsis, ayun, nwidraw ko na lahat. ubos na. naipambayad ko na ng utang. kulang pa nga. july 1 pa lang ngayon ha.

at ang mahirap pa diyan na tanggapin ay ito: cory and her civil society group think themselves righteous. they think they can do no wrong. therefore, they think they have the right to decide to lead this country.
ang daming mga kasalanan ng mga iyan sa taong-bayan. kung nagkasala eh parusahan! at dito sila takot! dahil ang ginawa nila noong pinatalsik nila si erap sa sedition, treason, court martial sa military officers — which is punishable by death. if ever there will be a leader who will emerge, i want the death penalty to be implemented on this criminals.

Tita CORY’s statement is all but political hypocrisy. How can she say that she will always stand by the constitution when she herself and the ARROYO’s turned their backs on the constitution when they unseated ERAP. Asikasuhin nyo na lang po ang mga problema nyo sa Hacienda ninyo at ipagdasal ang mga nasawing nagprotesta doon.

Madame Cory is so subtle in saying that adhering to double standard is the “in” thing to do today.

It seems so easy for her to invoke the Rule of Law when in truth and in fact she used to be the beneficiary of the people’s denouncement of the 1973 Constitution during Marcos time.

How easily can she forget.

She should first practice what her hand made 1987 Constitution advocates : the inviolable separation of the Church and the State.

Problem with her is, she’s confusing her political judgment against her false dogmas and doctrines.

O di kaya na sobrahan lang po sa pag-ma-mahjong?

Let us all pray then for her deliverance.

Gloria will not resign. She is not leaving in any way. What are they going to do?

There is still a lot more serious people who went to EDSA 2.

Gloria will make new politicial compromises with the left if she has to.

Here’s what really don’t understand…..

1986, Mrs. Aquino calls for people power against a obviously rigged election and successfully outed FM.

2001, Mrs. Aquino calls for people power against a president accused of accepting jueteng bribes and successfully ousted ERAP.

2005, Mrs. Aquino calls for prayer and support for a president who already admitted rigging the elections and accused of accepting jueteng bribes.

She should join her husband.

may naisip ako… paano kung sinagot ng diyos ang dasal ni Cory at ang sabi niya kailangan talaga outside the constitution ang kailangang hakbang??? hmmm… Sa tingin ko naman may hinihintay siyang sagot sa mga dasal niya…

Mrs. Aquino bends where she can benefits. She won’t call for the ouster of GMA because she sees no one in the opposition who will serve her interest when GMA is out. Thats pure and simple. She has lost moral ground. Mrs. Aquino should pray harder to overcome her GREEDS.

Tita Cory nakisali pa kasi kayo. Sana nanahimik na lang kayo. Tingnan nyo katako-takot na batikos tuloy ang napala nyo. Kahit pa ano ang sabihin nyo ay nagkamali kayo sa pagluklok kay Gloria Arroyo. Sana inamin nyo nya lang ang pagkakamaling ito and if I may quote Gen. Fortunato Abat “Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo is a TERRIBLE MISTAKE”.

I think she should have asked Gloria to resign. That’s the moral thing to do. When you here the tapes about people being kidnapped just to cheat in the election. Where is the CONSTITUTIONAL process there Mrs. Aquino? If Ninoy were here he wouldn’t waist a second to make a stand on this issue. As I said Mrs. Aquino bends the constitution to suit her needs not the Filipino people.

filipinos never lost their spirituality tita cory, or have you lost faith in the filipino? we are all praying. we have been praying that the thief/cheat/liar in malacañang get what she deserves.

that’s the problem with GMA daming utang=daming corrupt projects. And Mrs. Aquino is willing to look the other way. Siempre diba ??? Please check also San Jose Builders owned by the Aquino’s and Cojuangco’s

really, cory, asikasuhin mo na lang si kris. pag matino na ang bunso o tsaka ka lang magkakaron ng standing to tell us to do anything.

cory? magnanakaw din yan… masahol pa… tama kayo… hacienda luisita… support of cardinal sin…

kaya nga pinapacheck ko si kris aquina sa gene level at most likely anak din ni cardinal sin yun eh…

sa husay manalangin ni roy… NAKALUHOD!!!

the cat is now out of the bag. cory aquino has no choice but to support gma. gloria is blackmailing cory that it will release a video of the hacienda luisita massacre if cory supports a move to unseat her. so there goes the edsa1 heroine!

You just hate her because she has a lot of clout in our society and she is not on your side.

I keep on hearing the staement “mob rule because it was not following constitutional process”. Gloria was the vice President and the Presidency just became vacant because Erap cant find anybody to replace the cabinet members who resigned on him and cant make the military block the demonstrators. Whats more constitutional than that? Did Erap have an idea that his government will give up on him? I dont think so. He was so out of touch giving out favors to his drinking buddies.

Constitutions dont impose themselves on the people. Its a formalisation or institutionalisation of a common idea. And sometimes the common idea that a majority agrees upon is not written down yet but it is common and agreed upon by the majority. Its a numbers game. call it mob rule if you want but a body of people reached a common decision and they acted on it. Thats the most basic form of power. And ultimately the basis of the power of the people.

As to Edsa 3 And ‘Ayala whatever’ there is no majority there. the majority is in their homes disgusted at the situation but thinking things over waiting for the right group of people to present themselves. and unwilling to be deluded by the idea that they have to act fast and replace the President now by somebody who they believe will most likely do the same thing and make the situation worse.

Gloria will be replaced but not by the current opposition. When Gloria is removed it will be by changes so big even the current opposition will have a fit. It will be a wholesale generational change because the people now blame the entire generation of leaders that have failed.

What constitutional with removing Gloria and replace her with somebody totally out of the succession chain? Its like watching boxing and the declared winner comes from the audience.

Heh heh. you dont like Loren either. Heh heh.

Obvious ang script ni Lacson! Gusto nya sya ang Presidente hindi si FPJ.

Sorry po OT!

to jammer: Sadly and unforunately.. this is very true! Alot of my classmates parents work in the field of agriculture. This seems to be the scare. Or atleast a worry. I remember reading an article about this in the newspapers. calling it “The Philippine Gestapo movment” yikes.. scary.. though this issue has gone down the trench.. just shows the power of stonewalling and coverup.. really its true.. money.. makes you go crazy.. yikes..

Godbless and takecare!

plus.. sad to say.. cory has lost some of her credibility aswell.. well… I really hope Iam mistaken.. hay..

Godbless and takecare!

Hi everyone, I am new here but I could feel that I’ve finally found a home. It’s good to be in the company of minds that values the truth and honor more than greed and power unlike the over-staying tenant in the palace of Mordor.

I’m so tired of all these war of words..let’s cut the chase and ask ourselves…are you for the cheater or for the cheated? Your answer and the side you take will in some ways determine the future of our children. Please, let’s not forget that what we do now…will forever echo to all eternity…have mercy to the next generation of our great country. Gloria, if you are the intelligent soul that you claim you are…you should know by now how “to accept the things that you can’t change, to change the things that you can and to have the wisdom to know the difference”. These are not my words but am sure that it will help set you free from the bondage of greed and lust for power. I know that despite what you’ve done and the things that you still plan to do, there is still some good things within you. Dig deep inside and summon the courage to let go…sometimes, it is in letting go that you get much in return.

And here we go again…those who chose to be identified with the cheater is calling all heavens..preaching the gospel of observing the institutional processes and the remedies that the constitution provides…oh these people, they’re all guilty of one thing..Hypocrisy to the highest degree. They do have a very short memory or maybe it’s about arrogance and the mind-set that if it works for them it should be the right thing, otherwise, it’s all about destabilization. Can they not remember that they’ve trampled the Constitution not so long ago? Did they not chose to pursue justice on the streets of Edsa instead of sticking it out with what the constitution provides for? Did they not enticed the military to march to Edsa and join the fray of the barbarians in our society? You know who you people are…your words are as empty as your soul…may your devil friend bring you to your rightful place…the lake of fire, where brimstone and burning rocks will consume your filthiness for all eternity…be very afraid, the Devil has already prepared a place for you.

CHEATED

MABUHAY!!!!
Umaasa akong sa mga katulad mo nakasalalay, at sa mga narito pang naniniwala sa KATOTOHANAN, ang IKAGIGISING NG ATING BAYAN.
Mapalad na lang at inabutan ng ating henerasyon ang ganitong pamamahayag.
Ipagpatuloy po sana natin.

[…] The big news yesterday was Cory Aquino’s statement and the interesting decision by the majority in the House to go along with the playing of the Paguia tape: talk is that the administration has decided to raise the ante by preparing to release new tapes that show at least two opposition senators also talked to Garcellano (if this happens, the result will be that those senators will have no choice but to share the same fate as the president). Also, a new Civil Society coalition has called for the Comelec’s resignation. […]

mlqIII;

i always re-read the term civil society. where did this come from? anybody outside that secret(?) org. does not qualify to be called civil? pls provide a lead on their roster of members. thnx.

i second the motion w/ jammer statement. Cory, if you really care w/ our countrymen, provide proper distribution of your “hacienda luisita” land to the poor farmers. GOD will bless you.. not by your prayers alone but by implementing right doings. Also, you must pray for the safety of the former girlfriend of James Yap who is going to deliver his child any day from now.

Ito ang magandang dasal ng mamamayang Pinoy sa ngayon at ito`y galing sa column ni Lito Banayo ng MALAYA. Dapat dasalin natin ito ng sabay-sabay para tayo pakingan ng Diyos. Hayaan na natin yong dasal ni Tita Cory at di na obra yon, wala na si Cardinal Sin!

“Aba naman Gloria, puno ka na ng grasya;

Kayamanan ng bayan ay nasa iyo na.

Bukod kang pinagpala at iyong angkan;

Wala ng natira sa AMEN”.

Sana makonsensiya na sila!…Tama na at sobra naaaaaa!!!!!!!

SA DAKONG PARUROON, BAKA NGA NAMAN EPEKTIBO RIN ANG PAYO NI CORY NA MAGDASAL NA LANG TAYO TUNGKOL SA KRISIS PAMPULITIKA SA BAYAN NATIN. SUSPETSA KO IPINAGDASAL DIN NI CORY NA MAKAKUHA NG BINATA SI KRIS NA KANYANG MAUUTO AT PAKAKASALAN SIYA.

Tita Cory 4 your information PRAYER is not effective without action. Sa dami ng nananalangin ngayun sa buong mundo di lahat maaasikaso ni LORD. Kaya kailangan natin kumilos para mapaalis c GMA. Huwag natin hintayin ang panginoon sapagkat abala sya sa Iraq at iba pang bansa sa mudo. GOT IT?

Just wondering kung asan n ngayon c Cardina Sin, sana magpadala sya ng message d2 sa atin para malaman natin kung tama ang kanilang pinaggagawa d2 sa lupa noon. O baka naman d sya makapagpadala ng message kc nalaman nyan mali pla sya.

For those who still believe in Cory …

According to our constitution,

ARTICLE XI
ACCOUNTABILITY OF PUBLIC OFFICERS
Section 1. Public office is a public trust. Public officers and employees must, at all times, be accountable to the people, serve them with utmost responsibility, integrity, loyalty, and efficiency; act with patriotism and justice, and lead modest lives.

Section 2. The President, the Vice-President, the Members of the Supreme Court, the Members of the Constitutional Commissions, and the Ombudsman may be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, culpable violation of the Constitution, treason, bribery, graft and corruption, other high crimes, or betrayal of public trust. All other public officers and employees may be removed from office as provided by law, but not by impeachment.

AND

ARTICLE VII
EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT
Section 8.
In case of death, permanent disability, removal from office, or resignation of the President, the Vice-President shall become the President to serve the unexpired term. In case of death, permanent disability, removal from office, or resignation of both the President and Vice-President, the President of the Senate or, in case of his inability, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, shall then act as President until the President or Vice-President shall have been elected and qualified.

So, nasaan ang constitutional nung EDSA 2?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sana wag na tayong maglokohan! “People power has succeeded only if it is for others”? “Others”, such as, Guillermo Luz of the Makati Business Club? Joe Con and his cohorts in NAMFREL? FVR? GMA? your incumbent TRAPO friends in government? And, oh, the COJUANGCOs AND THE AQUINOs of this country?

Really! Cory and her friends reminds me so much of Padre Damaso noong panahon ng Kastila … mga HIPOKRITO! mga GARAPAL!

btw, let me just say na yung karamihan ng College Students na nagpunta ng EDSA 2 ay REQUIRED MAGPUNTA!