Uncivil society

If the civil society and the majority of the Filipino people does not do anything to stop Congress from trashing the impeachment, im afraid our country will be going to the dogs and the likes of Bunye, Marcoleta and other sipsips

Bye bye Philippines. Malas nalang natin, we have disGLORIA!!

the problem with civil society is not being uncivil – but being anti-society.

take that.

civil societies as we see today are mostly exclusive. no matter how they pretend to be “para sa masa” yet they remain to be an exclusive organisation that is not representatives of what the “masa” is feeling. civil society creates their own agendas and actions that are always NOT SYNCHRONIZED with the “masa” or the general population. they have a very ROUGE and INDIRECT approach at making their concerns to the public – street rallies, phamplets, the use symbols, etc. NOT very effective at trying to bring the issue to the people.

in a way they have become anti-socials in their methods. they have not reach the people.

its time for them to act differently.

Well, the party list is another way of dividing the loot. Masyado nang maraming congressman but they are not representing the interest of their constituents but their own personal interest. Ever wonder why they spent millions of pesos during the election. The return for their expenses is many times over. Si GMA, mas tuso sa matsing, she spent the people’s money so mas malaki ang ganansiya niya.

Kawawa ang masa. Pero nagpapaloko naman tayo so kasalanan din natin. Dapat niyan iabolish ng ang kongreso. Wala naman silang ginagawa kundi magpapogi sa harap ng kamera. Ilang batas ba ang nagagawa nila sa isang taon? Kung hindi sila kikita wala silang bill na magagawa.

Sa election lang ang pagasa natin para makabawi. Ibasura na ang Kongreso o kaya iboto ang nga non traditional politics baka makaboto pa tayo ng idealistikong tao.

Truly, I have lost all respect for all these (usually self-proclaimed) civil society members. Dati ang tawag ko sa kanila, SEE EVIL Society. Baka ngayon, EVIL Society na. They have evolved, though only in name, from being “cause-oriented groups” to now “civil society groups”. Bakit? Kasi, yung cause-oriented groups kasama dito yung mga maka-kaliwang chaos-oriented daw na mababaho, jologs, etc. So, para madistinguish, yung mayayaman, “civil society” na ang tawag. Yun namang mga leftist organizations humiwalay sa kanila after EDSA2 at dahil feel nila hindi sila welcome sa mga meetings sa subdivisions sa QC and Makati, kaya ang tawag nila sa sarili nila “progressive groups” na.

The Great Gloria has “used” these civil society groups, I really meant “bought” , with our hard-earned tax money. Do you still remember the zero-bonds that gave the civil society group CODE-NGO, Billions of pesos to fund what they claim as poverty-alleviation programs. Why was this group so blessed to merit such huge trust of Malacañang, after all, we already have the DSWD, PCUP, and other line agencies in government for that very purpose?

Its because this group was at the frontlines during the protest actions that led to ERAP’s ouster (remember how they picketed the houses of Sen. Santiago and Sen. Oreta in La Vista?) and since most members are also neighbors of Doña Garapata, they craved for positions in government, funds for NGO projects (kuno), di pa sila nagkasya na na-appoint na si Camacho as Finance Secretary (pati yata si Vince Perez galing din dito, a) gusto pa ng pera…at bilyones, ha!

When this was exposed in media in 2001, did you hear a single whimper from these self-appointed vanguards of morality? Kanino kayang poverty ang na-alleviate ng bilyones na pondo? Can you imagine, nagpalutang ng bonds si Gloria ng billions para may panggastos ang isang NGO samantalang ang magbabayad nito ay taumbayan pagdating ng maturity date?

Yesterday, we read in PCIJ’s blogs na P3-5 Billion more were released to shady Farmer Organizations before the elections. Garapal, di ba? Do you want six more years na laging ganito?

These are the same NGOs that blasted the opposition for immediately going to the streets right after the “I am sorry” affair and noisily proclaimed that the correct thing to do is follow the rule of law in ferreting out the truth. They also espoused the idea of a Truth Commission and/or impeachment na alam naman nilang walang kapupuntahan.

Mabuti na lang lately, nakikita na muli ang CODE-NGO. Madalas kong mapanood ang kaibigan kong Sixdon Macasaet na Sec-Gen ng CODE-NGO sa ANC na sumama sa panawagan na magresign si Doña Gloria. Pero unlike the usual fervor that they displayed during the ERAP ouster, yung ngayon, malabnaw, walang angas. Except for Liway Chato, nasaan na ang Couples for Christ? Nasaan ang APO Hiking Society? Nasaan yung mga yung mga schoolmates ni Erap sa Ateneo na lumait sa kanya noong 2001? Sila Billy (Esposo), Peping, Pastor? The other members of civil society, nasaan na?

Is there anyone else?

Meron pang laman ang kaban ng bayan kaya ‘yung mga alipores ni Gloria kapit-tuko lang muna. Akala yata ni Gloria mga loyal ang mga hinayupak sa kanya. ‘Di niya alam ginagatasan lang siya. Subukan mong wag mong bigyan ng pondo ang mga yan, tingnan natin kung may kakampi sa kanya. Kita mo naman ‘yung sipsip sa kanya, mga mukhang buwaya, mga tipong Villafuerte at Ermita.

OK lang kung may balak mag civil disobedience. It’s already justified kung ‘di naman ang bayan ang nakikinabang.

asa pa kayo nabayaran na ang “civil society”… kakalungkot.. pero alam ko meron pa din dyan natititira na walang hidden agenda para sa sarili nila… hayyy buhay…

primo,

i assure you. marami pa sila, kami, tayo…

mabuhay ka!

Pervert daw ang mga Pinoy tapos dusfunctional daw?
Okey lang na pervert as long as mapatalsik at makulong si GMA, including those who had helped her do injustice to the Filipino people.

gma’s really spending bigtime for this impeachment case. she hired a reputable lawfirm in makati- a breakaway of an established one and no, not the perea one. i suppose, we suckers are paying for that, huh? to what lengths will she go? proceeds from the evat will just go to her legal defense instead of to the food needed by our undersnourished kababayans.

pervert society? eh ano kaya tawag dun sa mga looters sa new orleans (1st rate country)?

yang si benign0 di yan pinoy kaya ganyan yan.. naku e2 na naman tayo sa ad hominem….. well sabagay sa panahon na ito rainy season bumabaha tumataas ang tubig naglalabasan ang TALANGKA!

guys, mayang gabi na… Black and White Movement, at La Salle Greenhills at 7:30 p.m. may mass nandon si Cory (for the first time) manunga, oo madami pang matitino dito sa bayan nating mahal.. Pilipinas…

MitaMS, examine your thoughts please.

this daily dose of hearsays, innuendos, unproven accusations, and chismis to sustain anger should be put to a stop. isn’t it about time for everybody to roll up their sleeves and start focusing on economic survival? This over obsession on Gloria is bordering on deepseated hatred now. Loosen up people, there is life before, during and after Gloria.

pervertion is not the proper term to tag aginst the civil societies today. more of having the lack of new ways to address concern to the public. that’s where the civil society failed – they failed to inform the public.

yes they inform the media, but the media is just the medium. making sure that your concern reaches the people is far more important responsibility than making sure you (just) voice it out.

It is different to know right and wrong as to who’s right or wrong. the generalist comment made by benign0 also proves that he’s lacking in capacity to point to the proper culprit. who has perverted democracy? we as a nation is responsible but not entirely at fault. only a few are guilty.

these are not hearsays.

these are not innuendos.

these are not unproven accusations.

and definitely these are not chismis… so jonathan, calm your anger upon us.

yes i agree there’s life before,after during GMA’s.. but.. picture that life…. it’s like afflicted with leprosy…, or everyone of us turned into zombie.. or the kind of life like an aftermath or a nuclear bomb explosion… so is this the life you’re saying?

let me ask those who doesn’t mind at all the trashing of impeachement. you continue to argue that the economy it is more important. with a misleading thought that it would directly enrich the life of our poor pinoys. though basic economic logic would tell us so, that is not the actual case.

my question is what you think of the billions of peso missing in the national treasury that have landed in the hands of bogus foundations (and not in the hands of projects to support the poor)? had not this billions be accounted for? and serve the people? investigate responsibility, accountability and persecution?

its political economy. its the tyranny of numbers. and i do not mean the 79 signatures… but the numbers in the treasury – billions!

dear noelet

who was that alleged ugly dog who said it’s
the economy stupid? he was thrash just
yesterday and called more dirty names.
that’s there line, the economy is more
important than anything that will
put gloria down, even the criminal act
against the Filipino, so noelet why bother
trying to make them see the light?

primo said

picture that life…. it’s like afflicted with leprosy…, or everyone of us turned into zombie.. or the kind of life like an aftermath or a nuclear bomb explosion… so is this the life you’re saying?

dear primo, you sound scared, or are trying to scare others
from saving their country. many will be called to account, even those
those who don’t know that leprosy is not something to be
afraid of. A country of lepers and zombies is better than a
country of cowards and slaves, of people without honor and
without souls.

I think Osabel has a poin there, if Marcoleta was sincere about endorsing an impeachment complaint and that he was not a party to a conspiracy to thwart a genuine impeacment compalint, why did he not vote for the thing the he himself endorsed.

Ang daming lapses kung tutuusin ang Arroyo Governement tungkol sa usapin ng impeachment, they think that the people are foolish not to see those. Pandaraya yan na naman

who is marcoleta? and who is osabel? and what is alagad?

the report by luz rimban is still incomplete. at best, its all about marcoleta and osabel grabing power inside their party-list, with charges and counter-charges.

can we know as of today what is the composition and leadership of alagad? who really is marcoleta right now with the party? let not osabel alone speak for it if he really represents the party. let the party out and speak for itself.

in my observation the reason why GMA is still in power and cannot be ousted by people power like marcos and erap is that GMA is a natural good person. opossition can try to villify her and make her like a devil but the sound minded people will simply ignore it. God wont let the real evil succeed and let the power hungry forces takes over. my advise to them just pray and dont bad mouth the president as if she is the devil. look at the other side you might be mistaken.you can say that GMA is kapit tuko from her position but it is her mandate. and she swear to stand by it during her oath taking.philippines is not only metro manila. pls respect the other peoples view. just think of it. GMA herself doesn’t bad mouth the opossition and instead offering reconciliation and peace never mind if she has another agenda but who are we to know what is inside of her mind and heart. i think only God knows whats in it. thats why she is still in power.

Ha, really? Rational opinion ng pro-GMA vs. “chismis” of the anti-GMA? Hey MitaMS, if you really think na chismis lang ang PCIJ. Then make like a tree and leave! And you can take Jonathan with you, too.

As I’ve said above, NGO based civil society groups have thrown themselves into the political fray when they allowed themselves to be prostituted by the Great Mini-me with funds that the congressmen and senators wouldn’t share with them. Sure, they needed these funds for civil work which to them, their own participation, financial or otherwise, were limited to providing their own service to medical missions (the medicines, of course, were provided by sponsoring pharmaceutical firms), sample materials for livelihood training, leaflets and brochures, the works. I’ve seen how its done. Yeah, bin der, dan dat.

Believe you me, it takes a lot more than that. I’ve even seen farmers joining MLM schemes with P1,500 for fertilizers which always ends in a rip-off. But there’s one “lucky” company that made shitloads of money before the elections distributing liquid ferlizers to farming barangays in the hundreds of millions of pesos – at least that’s what the sales invoices said. Cong. Villar has signed the impeachment because of this scandal. Her name was included in the liquid fertilizer beneficiaries when the only thing you can plant in Las Piñas is homegrown dope. So with Parañaque, Q.C.(remember Mike Defensor’s sister?), and other cities that received millions worth of “fertilizers” before the elections.

MitaMS, Jonathan, I don’t blame you for wanting to put this impeachment behind us fast. But who doesn’t? I understand that everyone else has been unsettled by this brewing political storm ahead of us. If you are making good money today in whatever it is you are doing, then great, continue what you are doing and continue being successful. But please, for people like us who have lost a lot due to the bungling of The Economist, and the millions of others who have now become worse than ever before, you can’t blame us either. I’ve heard it before, work, work, work. Where, in call centers? I have 12 employees today, down from 72 during the worst of Erap’s time, maybe, they’ll be gone before Christmas. All our foreign prospects have canceled their future business in the Phils. due to corruption, red tape, and the gov’ts unpredictability in terms of investor policies.

But that’s just a few of them reasons. Never mind “Hello Garci”, never mind the cheating (have you bought a copy of Newsbreak?), never mind the Mindoro killing fields, or the road users tax, or jueteng or Piatco and Northrail (ugh! we would have been part of this project had GMA opened the bidding to include us locals and not negotiated it with one Chinese company). Never mind Jose Pidal.

If these things, backed by hard evidence, are to you mere chismis or innuendoes, then go keep fooling yourselves. But you can’t expect us, I mean all of us, to just keep a blind eye and walk away. And work, right?

jay seneca,
the phrase “it’s the economy, stupid” was coined by james carville, the political consultant of bill clinton when he was running for the US presidency. Anyway, what he basically was saying was that voters vote on the basis of the conditions of their pockets come election day.

tongue in, anew.
“…backed by hard evidence”. really, so how come we don’t have convictions yet. don’t you think newspapers are the wrong forum for serious accusations. why don’t you gather all these hard evidences and file appropriate case(s) in the courts of law? talk is cheap, my friend.
about call centers, seems like you don’t have much respect for call center employment. Ok, that’s your opinion. From a number of 2,000 employees in the year 2000, it has grown to about 40,000 seats or the equivalent of 70,000 employees at the end of 2004. With entry level wages from P12,000-P15,000, that’s not bad at all, isn’t it? Or, haven’t you been out late at night and see those buildings in Makati still lit up. Well, they’re expecting to double the number of call center employees by the end of the year. And thats not counting the BPOs, the software, transcription, and animation industries which are all growing at double digit growths. If the Philippines is ever mentioned in international business magazines, it is precisely because of the niche we have secured in the outsourcing industry. You also mentioned about Piatco, and Northrail among others. Wasn’t the Supreme Court who decided against Piatco in the first place? And about Northrail, like Sen. Drilon you have politicized this above-board transaction to the consternation of the Chinese Ambassador who was so mad about the allegation, he warned about the effects on future Chinese investments in the country. Ok, so bureaucratic red tape, corruption, and policy unpredictability are the principal causes of your business’ failure. I felt bad for you, but you know what? Vietnam and Indonesia have conditions worse than ours. But did this deter foreign investments? No, and you know why? Inspite of those problems, they have relative POLITICAL STABILITY. Ours? We always shoot ourselves on the foot, so to speak. Political wranglings, demonstrations, disrespect for the rule of law – these are major turn-offs to foreign investors. And, let me add to that: our people’s penchant for hearsays, chismis, and unsubstantiated allegations.

It’s easy to be cause-oriented and idealistic, until the administration offers you a bribe in 7 figures. Corruption really sucks, and it doesn’t surprise me whenever some members of civil society succumb to it. I don’t think young people are immune.

In my personal opinion, it is those members of civil society whose convictions have been tested who should be noted and lauded. And if our political instability is due to good, upstanding citizens and elite fighting corrupt politicians, well, I am all for political instability until the good upstanding people win.

hi jay seneca,

i’m just using “metaphors”. try to picture leprosy,zombies, nuclear bomb aftermath.. then apply it to our country’s situation. well, i’ve never been “scared” but the the way our present government works scares me to death… kaawa awa ang ating mga anak….

“Vietnam and Indonesia have conditions worse than ours.”

O thank god, jonathan… you save our day. So there are counties worst than us? But how worst they are if they have stable politics? At this point I don’t get where you’re going…

But Im glad we’re not the worst… I can now sleep at night and dream what worst are there outside.

Nice huh. Hahaha

Si GMA isang maligno o kayay parang isang bulate na dapat na nating purgahin. Wala magandang kinabukasan ang bayan natin pag si GMA pa rin dyan. Kapal ng mukha nya.

noelet,

I usually come late at home because i live far from where i work. that’s why i may be exhausted already to watch late night shows like DEBATE. Ang babaw naman na sagot yan ni Marcoleta. He seemed to have understood the substance of the impeachment complaint halfheartedly or perhaps no understanding at all except the understanding with malacanang.

On the question raised by Mr. Osabel, thus:

“If indeed Marcoleta was not a pawn of the administration, why did he not cast a vote in favor of the “sufficiency in form and substance” of the original impeachment complaint?”

Rep. Marcoleta is not a member of the House Committee on Justice ergo he is not allowed to vote.