Many Pinoys didn’t favor People Power — Pulse Asia

Up to now, to me it is not clear if it was really the people power that primarily brought down Marcos regime, but more of spontaneous military rebellion mixed with emotion arising from Ninoy’s Assassination and the U.S. giving up on Marcos dictatorship. As for Pres. Estrada I believe it was his corrupt administration and also a military conspiring with opposition and the public protest and also his incapacity to run the office of the President. Public protest alone had no chance to have brought down those governments.

Somehow, the survey reflects the attitudes of the people that the people power do not have much probability of succeeding unless other factors such as military support and strong opposition are present. And also a U.S. administration distancing itself means a lot too. Or maybe the public are getting feed up replacing another government for one they are not sure of.

(i am just posting what i could have posted here http://www.pcij.org/blog/?p=500 as I HAVE MORE PRESSING CONCERNS right now. this was a reply to jester-in-exile. actually, that particular thread had an amusing exchange of comments.)

many now believe people power is not the answer to our present woes. is it apathy? probably, just partly. is it the number as i’ve pointed out above? partly too, yes.

but i believe it is Learning the Lesson that greatly shuns people from creating “the power” again. same old “tayo-tayo,” “sila-sila,” “kayo-kayo dyan” after every upheavals. same worn-out “reconciliation” (to which we have allotted a budget for, mind you – To Heal the Wounds of EDSA!) that only proved to be detrimental to our society because there are too many “unclosures” (as enumerated by arturo some time back) in our politics.

moreover, it is the same class who rules us – sad to say, the class who easily become politicians by tradition. it is apt to say they are the “trapos” among us who deserve their place…only on the kitchen floor!

the dirt in politics is mainly in patronage politics (which i mentioned before that gloria is the epitome of such). and who among the social classes are capable of doing that? all the wheeling-and-dealing, the influence-peddling, and the vote-buyings during elections are done mostly by the moneyed people in our society (there are exceptions, of course.). this, in turn, earns their right to rule!

the dominant ruling class (the political elite, the oligarchs) should change their attitude (or better, if they’d be annihilated and be replaced by fresh breeds? – sarcasm intended!). the middle class who’ve always been instrumental in providing the “critical mass” for a people power is no longer in our midst.

people power is now relegated to the sides of EDSA as remembrance or a memento of our past political experience…here lies the paradox of people power (as rizalist opined) because people power has now become unpopular.

People power, if there’s any, is a figment of imagination.
And that is my statement.
Mine and mine alone.

To change the government in the Philippine sitting, one need to have the full support of the armed forces, coupled by the church and some elitists in the Cabinet as well in the Business and, well, the essential subtle nod of approval from Uncle Sam.

How about the so-called ‘masa”? As history provides, they are usually are use as pawns, if not de facto foot soldiers. Just like the Easy Company of the late Stephen Ambrose but minus the rifle and the clear direction to survive and succeed.

Did I hear we have a Rule of Law in the Philippines?

Jezz, get a grip folks.

Recipe to turn the Philippines around in 20 years…
If I were the next president, I will do the following:

1. Shut the country’s ports and hunt all known corrupt Filipinos past and present and transform Corregidor into Alcatraz–imprisoning them for life or executing them.

2. Shut Congress with no election for 20 years.

3. Grant 5 hectares of land (tax exempt) to corporations and universities from around the world in every Philippine city so long as they provide jobs and education to our people.

4. Transform PMA into a respectable institution once again with the help of West Point in America.

5. Lease to the United States an island in Mindanao for their military so that we don’t have to worry about security in the region and have them go after Muslim extremists and separatists.

6. Dismantle all those gigantic billboards along the highways in Metro Manila.

7. Restore the original names of historic streets and rebuild the architecture that made Manila famous before World War 2.

8. Construct an efficient and reliable public transit system to rid Manila of congestion.

9. After 20 years, adopt the U.S. style constitution and hold national elections wherein each of the Philippine provinces will have 2 senators in the Senate and the House composed of representatives based on district population.

10. Once the Philippines reaches first world status, I will retire in Amanpulo, eat sisig na tinostado with achara and buko sherbet…hmmm.

ryebosco, yung item 4, 5 and 9 mo sa iyong listahan…. parang gusto mo ng ipamigay ang Pilipinas sa mga Amerikano ,,, masakit sa mata… 1914 matapos na matalo ng Amerika ang Kastila, ipinagbili ng mga Kastilaloy ang Pilipinas sa Amerika.. nakasulat yan sa kasaysayan….at dito na nagsimula yung sinasabi mo na US style constitution hindi na tutularan, matagal ng katulad na katulad ng US ang ating salligang batas dahil ipinakopya nila ito sa atin…. Isang batas na nakapaloob sa ating salligang batas,,, may kalayaan ang Amerika na bungkalin, gamitin at minahin ang ating likas na kayamanan….. Kaya nga hindi umunlad ang Pilipinas dahil sa pakikialam ng mga Amerikano. Natatandaan ko bago umalis ng Pilipinas ang mga Amerikano dahil medyo naunahan sila ng mga sakang ,,, ang isa sa mga ginawa nila… Kinuha nila sa Sierra Madre ang mga punla ng sarsaparilla tree, pagkatapos binomba nila ito upang matiyak na hindi na muling tutubo ang puno ng sarsaparilla.. Kaya pag umiinom tayo ng Coca Cola, pepsi, at iba pa…. unang dapat nating isipin, narito sa loob ng bote ng coke na ito ang ugat ng sarsaparilla na ninakaw ng mga amerikano at pagkatapos ay ipinagbibili sa atin. Kaya pag sinabi nating gayahin natin ang saligang batas ng US, mamumundok na lang ako sa piling ni Ka Roger… Maraming kaparaanan ng pag-unlad at sa aking haka haka, kuro kuro , pala palagay ay hindi natin kailangan ang kahit na isang letra ng Amerika sa ating saligang batas.

“kung nakamamatay lang ang masasakit na salita ay matagal na kayong mga nangisay mga hayup kayo…”

Kasi talagang walang magyayari sa masasakit na salita! Pangalanan nyo na ng kung anu ano si Glorya at kung sino sino pang alam nyong corrupt, inept. or what ever…. Murahin nyo ng husto hanggang sa manigas ang mga litid nyo. Wala pa rin pong mangyayari dyan…

Ang pinakaepektibong paraan para sa mga tao sa gobyerno na sa palagay nyo ay may ginagawang kalokohan at labag sa batas ay magakalap ng mga matitibay na ebidensya laban sa nasabing tao. At sampahan ng kaso sa korte!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Magandang umaga ryebosco,

Nagsisiyasat pa rin ako pero may ilan na akong nakalista para umunlad ang Pilipinas.

1. Ipatupad ang nakasaad sa saligang batas na huwag makialam ang simbahang katoliko sa pagpapatakbo ng gobyerno,, ang mga pari huwag uupo bilang representante ng ano mang aktibidad para sa saligang batas. i.e Joaquin Bernas, the running priest nakalimutan ko ang pangalan, etc etc. masakit pakinggan pero totoo.
2. Alisin ang pork barrel ng mga senador at kongresman, sa halip i divert sa ibang proyekto na kapaki-pakinabang… Libreng pag-aaral mula elementary, highschool at kolehiyo, bigyan mo pa ng allowance para sa pamasahe ang mga estudyante, siguro lahat gustong mag-aral.
3. Ilagay sa umiiral na saligang batas na suportado ng gobyerno ang lahat ng imbensiyon ng mga Pilipino at hindi puwedeng ibenta sa labas ng bansa.. i.e. Nakaimbento ng flouresent lamps, ibinenta sa Philips, nakaimbento ng langis para sa eroplano na makakatipid ng 50% ibenenta sa Amerikano. Tubig o yung deuterium, hindi nakapasa sa Kongreso at senado, … Ngayon may nakaimbento ng mekanismo na makakatipid ng konsumo ng gasolina ng 50% . Siyasatin, kung totoo tangkilikin.. Ang tinutukoy kong kong benta ay yung patent, hindi yung produkto.
4. Ilagay sa kontrol ng senado at kongreso ang militar sa halip na sa Pangulo ng Pilipinas. Sa senado at kongreso marami silang mag-aaway away bago nila maimpluwensiyahan ang ang isang partikular na opisyal ng militar. Ilang heneral ang sumuporta kay gma?
5. Ilagay din sa hurisdiksiyon ng kongreso at senado ang pagtatalaga sa mga huwes. Marami din silang mag-aaway bago makaimpluwensiya sa isang huwes sa halip na isang tao lamang.
6. Ang mga nakaupo sa COMELEC palitan kasabay ng pagtatapos ng termino ng nakaupong Pangulo ng Pilipinas. Huwag hayaang mag-ugat sa puwesto para hindi maging kasangkapan ng mga tiwaling pulitiko. ie. Garci, etc etc.
7. Ibatay sa seniority o lenght of service ang pagtatalaga sa mga chief of staff ng militar para walang gulo, i.e Ramos at Favian Ver kaya nauso tuloy ang kudeta, marami pang iba.
Lahat ng mga iyan naman ay magagaling kaya nga naging heneral e.

Marami pang kasunod, mag-aalmusal muna ako…

10. Payagan ang oposisiyon, mga komunista at iba pang sektor na makapagpahayag ng kanilang mga hinaing at sama ng loob sa telebisyon. Kapag nagmura at nagtungayaw naman sa ere, kulong agad walang piyansa. Para makilala ng taong bayan, sino ba itong si Roger Rosal na ito, sino ba itong si Drilon, si etc, etc.
11. Ilagay din sa saligang batas na bago tumuntong ng kolehiyo ang isang estudyanteng lalaki na magserbisyo muna sa alinmang sangay ng militar para maranasan nila kung paano kahirap ang sumunod sa utos ng nakatataas sa kanila. bombahin mo ng tubig utos ni Heneral… ang bobombahin mo e mga kaklase mong babae at lalaki na hindi qualified na maging sundalo, me hika, highblood , me sakit sa puso,pilay at bulag ang isang mata. 6 na buwang training 6 na buwang serbisyo.Pagkatapos kolehiyo ka na….para pag binatikos mo ang militar sasabihin niya hindi totoo yan galing ako dyan e…..

Surveys most of the time is bias and it’s result doesn’t always prove that the majority of the people really does favor or dislike whatever they are asking. Just ask your friends, family and neighbors. People just wants to do their usual thing and with their disappointment with the traditional politicians, they won’t allow themselves to be used by these wolves dressed in sheep’s clothing. The proposal for charter change, I believe, is gaining support.

“A parliamentary system tends to allow peaceful changes in government without Constitutional crises or armed uprisings by the discontented sectors of society.” And don’t you guys like the idea that the country’s leader can easily be ousted from office by a vote of no-confidence? From what I’ve read, a no confidence vote does not depend on proof of perjury or treason or bribery or obstruction of justice or crimes against the state; it can be offered because of a declining economy or foreign policy failures. It is a statement that the legislative branch lacks confidence in the ability of the executive to provide the leadership the office requires. So there you have it. No need for a long process of impeachment. No more Edsa ek. No more throwing stones in Makati City.

fellow bloggers: allow me to give my Loonie’s worth of suggestions of how to help transform the government into not exactly a first world- but far from what it is now.

Australia, New Zealand, Canada and a few more commonwealth countries who once colonies of great Britain and just like the Philippines been use as sourced of resources, revenues without representations. Now we are still commonwealth and the Queen is still the head of State but we are fiercely independent and have and thru time was able to formulate laws and statutes that are practical, enforceable. I can only suggest the current set up here in Canada since I have spent 31 years here, and was an active participant of our way of life.

1. Govt. Set up-Strong Party system where voters and prospective leaders join or support a particular party where their principles, moral, ethics conform with. (very strict regulation and enforcement of party financing).

2. Judges Not allowed to Vote- Any person who has to make decision on the law passed by elected person is not allowed to vote in order not to be perceived as bias in his duty.

3. Cabinet Ministers Stop being Business People-Any politician in government position should have their businesses in complete blind trust, and in this country we take this very seriously.

4. Law enforcement Authorities is completely independent of political intervention in conduct of its business. The government responsibilities is to legislate laws for our Police forces and Judicial system and Let them do their job.

5. So far the only business that is still protected by statute for foreign ownership is the banking system, but that too is slowly opening up. Lawfully regulated open market is not a sellout as most are afraid of. It is the corruption associated with such that hurts.

6. most important for each of us to know our responsibilities and accountabilities as citizen, such as our duties of paying our taxes, doing our civic duties, participate in election (vote, even a protest vote is counted). by that I mean cross your ballot with an X.

Eventually, things will fall into places and maybe not in our time (boy, Dr. Jose Rizal must be shaking his head), but who knows…

The problem I have with people power and military coups is because they tend to set back the country’s economy a number of years. Foreign investors move out of the country, potential investors go elsewhere, etc. The economic costs are too much. Poverty is so widespread in the Philippines and we can ill afford to damage our economy over and over again. Even with the consititutional impeachment method, the political instability is enough to rattle the financial markets. And we’re gonna have this year after year? Why can’t we have a long period of political stability for a change? Our political zarzuela does not really affect the elite. Look at the Marcos and Estrada cronies, they still have economic power. Only the POOR are affected. Once you tamper with the flow of investments, jobs are not forthcoming and the Philippines will always be the perrenial sick man of Asia.

The people who are fed up with GMA’s BOGUS LEADERSHIP are just WAITING for the RIGHT TIME. Because ALL our DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS are already ROTTEN TO THE CORE! …and they REALLY STINKS!!!

Below is an editorial from The Tribune:

01/21/2006
Any which way it is cut, the finger points to Gloria Arroyo’s cheating ways, and no matter the Palace denials and propaganda of her having won the polls “fair and square,” all signs point to her having cheated her way to Malacañang — and to the point of her getting the country’s Intelligence Service of the Armed Forces of the Philippines (Isafp) to bug the opposition presidential bets, as the Senate’s wiretapping probe Thursday established.

What more, by way of proof, is needed to show that Gloria has been prostituting — to cheap street walker’s level — the government institutions, especially the military and police, and for her personal political interests?

And the military and police brass, all of whom are in their posts on the sheer basis of their willingness to prostitute their institutions and violate the fundamental law for Gloria’s political interest, even have the nerve to publicly swear fealty to the Constitution, the flag and their oath!

Who else would have an interest in having the opposition presidential bets and their people bugged, if not Gloria, who was certainly eyeing her continued stay in the presidency. Who else could have ordered the bugging by Isafp of these opposing groups, if not Gloria, who claims to be the legitimate Commander- in-Chief and President of the republic?

Can anyone now doubt the authenticity of the “Hello Garci” tapes which not only caught her talking to a election commissioner on ensuring that the vote would be rigged in her favor, but also the conversations between the same commissioner and his squad of poll election cheats, including military and police generals, that showed how they effected this poll rigging?

Gloria does not tire of claiming that it is dirty politics that is bringing this country to ruin, but it was precisely she who had brought dirty politics to the highest levels, when she and her elite mob, backed up by the treasonous Angelo Reyes and his service commanders, in their greed to gain power and position, trampled on the Constitution and the rule of law.

Edsa II cannot be seen as anything else but a pure power grab and a gross violation of the Charter, since there is that undeniable fact that then sitting President Joseph Estrada was undergoing the constitutional process of impeachment, of which the highest official of the judiciary, Chief Justice Hilario Davide Jr., was its presiding judge but who himself blatantly violated his oath and the Constitution, making a mockery of the rule of law.

And the total prostitution of all democratic institutions was on its way to being institutionalized. No longer were the Supreme Court (SC), the Armed Forces and Philippine National Police, along with all other constitutional bodies, insulated from partisan politics. With their chiefs all engaged in partisan politics, it wasn’t long before they all discovered that, with Gloria at the helm of power, she paid handsomely for them not only to engage actively in partisan politics, but to continue defending and upholding the unconstitutional and the illegal, as the rewards from Gloria were great.

Were not those who participated in the Edsa II coup rewarded greatly with Cabinet positions and cushy government jobs? Were not those treasonous military officers richly promoted to the top posts, one after the other, under the revolving-door policy? And weren’t even the church leaders the beneficiaries of political largesse? More to the point, even while they were all dipping their hands into the government coffers, they all knew Gloria would protect them to the hilt. After all, her trusted people were positioned in the SC, the Office of the Ombudsman, the military and police chiefs, as well as the fiscals and the courts, not to mention the disgraceful Commission on Elections (Comelec), were all under her thumb.

Even the Isafp was immediately plunged into partisan politics, with the appointment of Victor Corpus, who had no intelligence training and proved to be an utter disgrace to the uniform, as its chief.

It is not a cause for wonderment therefore that the Isafp and all other intelligence agencies have been used for Gloria’s personal and political interests, made to spy on her election foes, while she makes the Comelec into her big cheating machine to ensure her stay in Malacañang.

But there has to come a time when all this would have to rise to the surface, as resentments will have to rise.

Too many have realized, albeit a bit late, that there can be no salvation for these prostituted institutions unless Gloria, the biggest Mama-san and her whole clique of prostitutes are first booted out.

It has reached a point that this has become the solution — THE ONLY SOLUTION.

And I bet, we will be saying the same thing to the next president. And the next, and the next, and the next, next, next, next, next…………

Like your reaction is important to me?

ryebosco,

In your ‘to do’ list as ‘president’ you forgot one thing: A president should not be a cheat and a liar in order to successfully implement those things that you enumerated

People Power is something that “just” happens. It is a result of a momentum. However, one cannot buy a momentum , much less, create it, however, it can be provoked into being.

There are various types of People Power; it does not necessarily mean we must all go out again to the streets and shout at the top of our lungs and demand that a leader resign–which is what happened in EDSA 1, 2, and 3. People Power is not only limited to one kind.

Let us take the case of GMA. To begin with, her legitimacy is in question, so why must she be asked to resign? The type of People Power that should be used on her is CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE. Why? Because the people should disobey a leader who is not CREDIBLE, who CHEATED, LIED and STOLE. Which is why going out to the streets and demanding for her resignation, or even asking her to get the h*ll out of Malacanan, won’t work. The woman is glued to her seat! In other words, you don’t remove rugby using water.

Pulse Asia asked: “Alin sa mga sumusunod na protesta o ‘People Power’ rally na nagpaalis o nagtangkang magpaalis ng pangulo ng bansa ang inyong pinaboran?”

1. Respondents who favored PEOPLE POWER II (January 2001): 10%.

If this survey is to be believed (and the 2004 election is to be doubted), then the Erap loyalists should rejoice for only a tenth of Filipinos favored his ouster. Was the Palace dejected by this reality because there is a “possibility” that Erap may be exonerated and then reinstated as President?

Is there really a cause for PP2 celebration? For sure, Gloria-haters will gloomily say “NO.” But apparently even the Palace doesn’t think there is…because it was not commemorated this year (“not even a squeak,” says DJB http://philippinecommentary.blogspot.com/2006/01/real-coup-detat.html ).

2. Respondents who favored PEOPLE POWER III (May 2001): 8%.

Again, if this survey is to be believed, there is probably a negligible difference between 10% and this 8%. The difference may not be significant but how come PP2 succeeded while PP3 failed? The violence in PP3 could be one of the many reasons. PP2 may not have been a true People Power but just a conspiracy (as some would regard it).

Since a lot of us know what happened then, would one care to venture on the other reasons?

PS> I must congratulate Ms. Tabunda for pointing out that subnational data points have +/- 6% error bars and only national data points have +/-3% error bars.Unfortunately that ERROR ANALYSIS only applies to BINARY QUESTION DESIGN (those that add up to 100% totals in the reported statistics). If the pollster then reports that “a plurality [42%] support NONE”, this implictly adds up the results for pp1+pp2+pp3 + Others into a category we can call “SOME”

But notice the mathematical sleight of hand: SOME includes those who supported TWO or MORE PP events. These are thus effectively DOUBLE COUNTED in the Editorial (but not so an ordinary person would notice it!)

Survey Design is a tricky, sneaky biznes!

DJB
Philippine Commentary

Pulse Asia…P’lease Asia.

The survey result is both partly correct and partly wrong. Partly correct because at the time of the survey, people asked said so, but partly wrong because majority of those who favored PEOPLE were never
asked. BUT IF THE SURVEY WILL BE CONDUCTED AMONG PCIJ BLOGGERS,, then am sure, 75 to 90 % will support PEOPLE POWER.

The win by Manny Pacquiao in the just concluded “The Battle” boxing rematch Between Morales/Pacquiao was THE REAL PEOPLE POWER!!!!

All Filipinos reunited. The World stopped from the 1st round up to the 10th round, when Erik Morales kissed the canvass twice and the referee have to rule a TKO (Technical Knock Out).

survey organizations’ innumeracy vs. internal revenue’s numeracy…

DEMAND AND SUPPLY By Boo Chanco
The Philippine Star 01/23/2006

Dogs of war

The grapevine is rife with stories that the green light has been given to unleash the dogs of war, actually internal revenue agents, on all enemies of the regime. That includes unfriendly businessmen, professionals, journalists and even survey organizations.

Supposedly on top of the list of companies to be served letters of authority this week are Pulse Asia and Social Weather Stations. That’s probably to show the nose counters that two can play at numbers and some numbers can really hurt.

Declaring an all out war at this time when the country is pretty much still destabilized is really asking for it. People, even those who are not quite enemies yet, will be forced to clearly take sides. This macho bravado, if true, shows how some people around her are getting a bit drunk with power. Not good at all… not good for her and not good for the country.

JONAS,

Alin ang kasinungalingan sa mga sinulat ko… Marunong ka bang umintindi o baka may sayad ang utak mo? Ang sulat ko ay sagot ko kay reybosco dahil naglista siya ng mga bagay na dapat daw mangyari sa isang bansang maligaya at masagana. Alin ang kasinungalingan doon at imbento.? Sa aking opinyon, ang salitang kasinungalingan ay tumutukoy sa pagsasabi ng isang bagay na salungat sa naganap.. Ikaw ba ang pumatay ?, sagot ni Tembong ..hindi po, pero sa totoo siya ang pumatay, ikaw ba ang nagnakaw? tanong kay Bitoy hindi po, pero siya ang nagnakaw. Ang imbento ay tumutukoy sa isang bagay o pangyayari na naganap o nagaganap…. Nakaimbeto ng kamera, ng tv etc etc, nakaimbento ng gamot daw sa hika pero hindi naman nakakagaling, nakaimbento ng eroplano hindi naman lulipad etc, etc.. Huwag kang TANGA, hindi ko sinagot si reybosco kung si gloria e magnanakaw o sinungaling dahil hindi naman ito kasama sa tanong niya… Maliwanag ba JONAS…. Mag-aral ka munang mag-analisa ng mga tanong at sagot , bago ka magsalita na puro kasinungalingan at imbento ang mga sulat ko… AMOY KATOLIKO KA JONAS

jonas,

slight disagreement – the church(es) has a powerful influence on government policy, even if they don’t sit in government positions.

case in point – population management, family planning, reproductive health. reproductive health NGOs are reportedly having a hard time in manila because of atienza’s religious beliefs (which, as a government official, should not impose on his constituents; to separate one’s religious convictions from what one has to do as an official is a large aspect of separation of church and state).

i think it was only flavier who made some degree of headway against the church on the issue of population control and reproductive health, while he was in the doh. pity no one else is.

as to bernas being in a constitutional commission, wasn’t he already in one before — as a constitutionalist, not as a man of the cloth. that is a better example of the separation of church and state than is atienza.

just that… and a friendly reminder to take it easy (ethical blogging dapat tayo, bro).

JONAS,

Ako pa ang nagpuputok ang butsi ng lagay na yon. sus ginoo… idilat mo nga yang mga mata mo, pagkatapos mong sabihin na sinungaling ako at puro imbento ang isiunulat ko ako pa ang sasabihin mo na nagpuputok ang butsi… Ang mga isinulat ko ay mga suhestiyon, mungkahi, pangarap, adhikain, panukala…. naiintindihan mo ba, kabayan…. Ikaw ang nagpuputok ang butsi, ang sulat ko ay opinyon ko at hindi ko ipinakakain sa iyo, ang sabi ko nga sa iyo kung anong tanong yun ang sagot, sagot ko yon kay reybosco hindi sa iyo, naiintindihan mo ba, ,,,, yung seniority sa militar , kaya nga inihalimbawa ko si Ramos at Fabian Ver , magsuri ka nga kabayan, bago ka magsalita ng kung ano ano… AT HINDI AKO SINUNGALING Matuto ka….kabayan, mag-isip ka ng 10 beses bago magsulat…

Leo,

Bakit hindi ko sasabihing pumuputok ang butsi mo e tinawag mo na agad akong “may sayad”, “tanga”, “Amoy Katoliko” dahil tinawag ko lang kasinungalingan at imbento ‘yung mga sinulat mo? Pwede mo namang patunayang mali ako at i-establish mo ‘yung basis mo ‘diba? Bakit kita tatawaging sinungaling e hindi ko naman sigurado kung sarili mong idea ‘yung sinulat mo. Ang sabi ko puro kasinungalingan ang sinulat mo, hindi ko sinabing sinungaling ka. Malay ko kung ginaya mo lang sa iba ‘yong idea? Kung sa tingin mo e “suhestiyon, mungkahi, pangarap,adhikain, panukala” ‘yung sinulat mo aba e nasa iyo ‘yan at hindi ko rin sinasabing ipinapakain mo sa akin ‘yon. Kung tanong mo kay reybosco ‘yon e dapat in-e-mail ma na lang kung ayaw mong may mag-comment na iba. Pero dahil pinost mo dito why are you complaining now if somebody commented on it? Hindi ko kailangang mag-isip ng 10 beses dahil hindi kailangan. Siguro ang gawin mo i-rebutt mo na lang ‘yung comments ko sa bawat suggestion mo. Let’s continue discussing and arguing. ‘Wag kang balat-sibuyas. Hindi kita tinawag na tanga o may sayad o amoy Katoliko. Hala sige, sulat ulit at stay on topic.

jonas at leo,

alam ko mag-kakampi kayo laban kay pandakekok. baka hanggang tenga ngiti ni pandak ngayon at sinasabi, ang saya-saya!

ok lang leo. sinasabi ko lang. iba ang kaaway. i have nothing against you. peace.

To : OpenUpUrMind: Thanks.

To fellow bloggers and readers:

Hey folks, reading thru the comments, I see a common the denominator among us, >>> FOR THE GOOD OF OUR COUNTRY!!!

Majority believes, gloria must go!!! She has to. There is no other option.
except RESIGN or be BOOTED OUT!!!

SURGICAL LIFT IS A MUST!!!

Here’s a simple formula under SURGICAL LIFT:
1. gloria RESIGNS/REMOVED
2. Install Drilon as Head of the Revolutionary government (12 mos).
Appoint local govt. officials, whose terms will end 2 years after the
election of the national government officals.
3. Create COUNCIL OF STATE HEADS (COSH)
a. Composed of immediate past presidents starting with marcos
b. The COSH shall have one vote/voice (to avoid a marcos vote,
cory vote, ramos,vote, erap vote or gloria vote)
We should KICK the past presidents by placing them on a HIGHER
PLANE where they deserved.
4. RECONCILATIATION ( this step is the most crucial component of the
NEW ORDER), Let us accept the fact that every one of the past
presidents committed errors, mistakes, ommissions, during
their respected terms. NONE of them came CLEAN, period.
IN RELATION TO THIS, DRASTIC MEASSURES AND SUPREME SACRIFICE
is necessary among citizens because we have to FREE Erap, forgive
marcos, gloria, ramos and cory and freeall political prisoners,
beginning with misuare
Why is it important to forgive and forget? I tell you, none can be
achieved if we continue dealing with the past.
5. Snap election within 6 mo period to elect the president,
vice- president, and congress
Disqualified to run : Marcos, Cory, Ramos, Erap, Gloria

6. New government ( with 6 year term) revert to 1987 Constitution.
7. Install new SUPREME COURT, The candidates of which shall be
nominated by the judicial bar council of the Philippines.
VOTING MECHANICS :
COSH – 1 Vote
LOWER House – 1 Vote
Senate – 1 Vote
President – Tie breaker
THE PRESIDENT’S ONLY other participation in choosing the suprem
court justices is SWEARING THEM THE OAT OF OFFICE.

THE CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE SUPREME COURT shall be elected by
the member justices.

8. Charter Change

To jonas :

Thanks.

When leaders fail ( administration and opposition), I strongly believe, the followers/we can demand their heads.. Our leaders today undeniably FAILED miserably

INITIATIVE for CHANGE should come from ordinary people like us, people who are willing to sacrifice by DIS-ASSOCIATING THEMSELVES FROM THE POLITICIANS they’re identified with, idolize, follow and support.

YES, We will need the support of: Church, civil society, various cause-oriented groups, business, military, etc.,

We should out-smart gloria and we can DO IT. May kasabihan tayo na >GAANO MAN KATUSO ANG MATSING AY NAPAGLALANGAN DIN.

glorias EO 464 and CPR will be useless, gloria’s military stooges will turn inutile. We will do the opposite.
HOW? DEADMA, SILENCE, NATIONAL REST DAYS, PEOPLES’ BUZZZZZZ
(Details > later – for interested only)

We can start as a small group>>>from interested fellow blaggers, then
lets multiply. No political figures, only ordinary folks. With permission and support by pcij, we can use this forum, then later on thru txt.

In fact txt message will be our next convenient tool for disemination of informatiiion and sending invites to join.

This is just a suggestion,kung baga suntok-sa-buwan.
But am not losing HOPE after all its FREE.

By putting our efforts and heads together, we can achieve small things, After all big things, started from small things.
Up to you folks now!!!