Senate begins hearings on ‘Hello, Garci’ tape; two military officers testify

salute to gudani. he will pay a high price in his career.
the only certain payback is a clean conscience.

tiglao and ermita quick to the defense. senga already retaliated in sacking the two officers. fg’s lawyer also defended his client. let’s hear from the equally, if not the greater, liar bunye…

thanks to the general and the colonel…real men with real b__ls. very much unlike the palace boys…full of bulls__t lies!

sige sibak nang sibak. sa susunod si gma at senga ang masisibak. let them do that for they shall earn the wrath of the enlightened soldiers who are opposed to the great garbage that is GMA. di ba niyo napapansin, every move forward to keep gma in poweris actually two steps backward? abante, atras, atras.

lahat sinisibak. kung hindi man, binibili. baka mamaya niyan, maubos na ang kaban sa kaka-bribe ni gma. Kung taun-taon ang impeachment, napakalaking kita na ng mga congressmen at mga generals. kahit singkong duling, wala nang matira dahil naipangako na ni gloria at ‘tenga’ de venecia.

oust na! gigil na ako. opps, ang mga diktador (dahil undeclared martial law naman na talaga) ay babalatan natin ng buhay para magtanda.

abangan: may lalabas na mga issues discrediting the integrity of these two officers…. trend yan e!

AFP now under CPR…commander-of-thieves’ preventive restraint.

Pro-gloria senatongs and tongressmen, what say you?

[…] In his testimony, Gudani, who is assistant superintendent of the Philippine Military Academy, said “there is a group of cadets, I don’t know how many, who believe that the President is guilty.” […]

Hahaha malapit na nga!

garabe naman ang EO na yan.

“questions that will be asked in the probes should be given three days in advance to allow government officials to determine how they would react to the inquiries”

tindi naman. eh para mapagisip pa sila ng kasinungalingan d ba?

The President is also the commander in chief di po ba? Natural lang siguro na kung may mga concerns o grievances ang military members, dapat lang siguro galangin ang kanilang commander. Kung may reklamo sila o gusto iparating, di po ba tama lang na sa commander muna bago iba ipagbigay alam? Ganun ang buhay ng sundalo kahit sa ibang bansa pa, naghihintay ng utos ng commander. Kung di nila kaya, dapat magresign sila. Ganun po kasi pagkakaintindi ko.

as expected, here comes the barrage of character assassinations against general gudani…with benasing macarambon, jr. in the lead…

Malapit na nga! dahil nagsalita na si Gen. Gudani at Lt. Col.Balutan siguro yung mga makabayan nating mga sundalo dapat kumilos na para patalsikin na ang pamilyang nagpapahirap sa bayan.Kailangan po tulungan na ng mga sundalo ang masa,wag kayong parang ROBOT na sunod ng sunod kahit “unlawful orders” ang utos.Isipin po natin ang kapakanan at kinabukasan ng bayan,Dont follow the chain of command if it is for the sake of the people and country,But instead defy GMA and bring her in court for her crimes commited,PWEDE BA SIYA MA FIRING SQUAD GAMIT AY PILLETS?

please let all support the men in uniform,marami pa po ang lalabas na katotohanan,dapat na po nating alisin si GMA.
the testemony of BG Gudani and LTC Balutan is the start of withdrawals of support by men in uniform to GMA and his evil empire
the uniform men of AFP and PNP is now ready to break the chain of command.we need people in the street,
please let us all support the Oust GMA rally,
the good men in uniform of AFP and PNP will be there to support all the anti GMA rallies nationwide.
salamat po,mabuhay po ang pilipino

Timtim, di lang isa ang nagre-react sa punto mo tungkol sa Chain of Command. Sama mo na ako. Ang Chain of Command nasusunod lang kung honorable at truthful ang Commander in Chief. Pero pinagloloko na tayo ng Commander in Chief, hindi na Chain of Command ang issue, Change of Command na!

I admire you for being calm in bringing up the issue in this blog. Few people can maintain such kid of equanimity in the face of adversity. Perhaps, God is sending you a message to either withdraw and reflect hard on this brewing crisis or make a heroic switchover. It is hard to defend the indefensible. Yumng talagang due for checkmate, ma-che-checkmate yan for sure. I know it because in the past two EDSAs, I was on the “losing” side trying to shout at the top of my voice, almost to naught, that my pet did it right.

Iwanan mo na yang “158 mentality” mo TimTim (remember the infamous number 158, the number of cover-up?). Kung noong panahon ng martial law eh pina-uso ni Macoy “Sa ikau-unlad ng bayan, disiplina ang kailangan”, siguro marapat lang na ngayon sabihin naman natin: “Sa ikau-unlad ng bayan, KATOTOHANAN AT KATAPATAN ANG KAILANGAN”, dahil nga wala si GMA niyan. Welcome to the club, Timtim? I’ll give you a red carpet welcome. Promise..

enuff said,
September 28, 2005 @ 8:53 pm

Teka.. teka… Asan na kasi si Garci????

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nasa ilalim ng palda ni GMA bwahahahaha. hirap hanapin yun.

few good men and soldier, soldier of the people

renso_lui,

She doesnt have to worry kasi si GMA hindi ma “reresthouse arrest”, malamang ma “coconvent arrest” sya kasama ng sisters & bishops na kakampi nya!!

I hope this will not start a civil war. If only soldiers would examine their conscience and see the light. Rumors of rumblings in the military should not be taken lightly. I still trust that the men in uniform will once more rise to the occassion and show their love for country and the protectors of the people. This EO 464 is a form of censorship that curtails transparency and public disclosure. GMA must keep in mind that all public officials are answerable to the people.

Si Timtim2 ay may katwiran sa pagunawa niya sa kahulugan ng chain of command ng military. Ang direct order sa military ay hindi kinukwestyon, right or wrong, upang mapangalagaan ang lubusang pagsunod nito, under pain of court martial, lalo pa man na ang order ay hindi lang galing mula sa Chief of Staff kundi sa Commander in Chief pa.

Gudani is a false hero in my book. Claiming he’s willing to die for love of country, where was he when his countriy needed him to correct a grievous wrong? Why didn’t he do the job he was assigned to by making arrests when he discovered election frauds were being committed? Why didn’t he speak up when the canvassing of ballots was being undertaken in Congress in the midst of vigorous claims of election fraud? Why did he keep his silence during the impeachment? Those were moments that would have changed the course of justice had he opened his mouth because those were perfect moments that could’ve hit the people with so much impact. Ngayon tanggap na ng maraming tao na may dayaan ngang naganap pero sawa na rin ang tao kung kaya’t wala na ang interest.

Magsasalita din pala bakit nagantay pa ng sobrang isang tao? Parang naging defensive reaction na lang ang dating ni Gudani. Bakit? Sa perception ng marami napilitan na lang magsalita sa takot na ma gisa ng senate investigating committee at matulad siya kay Bert Gonzales. A classic example of a hero who never was. Too late the hero. Gudani says he cannot do wrong because he believes in God. Doesn’t the devil also believe in God?

The devil believes in God and he shudders. But the devil does not shudder at the gods created by man’s imagination.

gaya ng isang pandak diyan na laging nag papa photo ops na nagdadasak “kuno” at nag pupunta ng simbahan. when she was succesful in killing the impeachment , gawa daw yon ng god niya. When she was succesful in prolonging her so called power in malacañang, gawa daw yon ng god niya. nang maging presidente kuno siya, niluklok daw siya ng god niya. at ngayong pinagbabawal niya ng mga rally at mga militar at government officials din na mag attend ng hearing sa senado at kongreso. ang sabi niya masuwerte siya dahil protektado siya ng god niya.

how nice it is that the one TRUE GOD is not like her god.

Konting bukas at gamit pa ng pagiisip kaibigan just as you keep your
eyesWIDE open. It would have been a perfect timing, and the last opportunity too, na magsalita na si Gudani immediately after the impeachment sapagkat alam na ng lahat, bago pa man matapos ang impeachment, na hindi papasa ito. Hindi naman congresista si Gudani para magsalita sa impeachment ngunit ito’y pagkakataon nya na magsalita ng openly sa bayan sa mga nakita daw niyang election fraud. Ngunit hindi nya ginawa ito. Noon palang bakit hindi nya ginampanan ang tungkulin at hindi nya inaresto ang mga nandadaya. A perfect timing sana para isiwalat ang dayaan na sangkot si Garcillano. Hindi nya ginawa ito. Bakit hindi sya nagsalita openly nuong canvassing upang patunayan ang mga claims ng opposition na may dayaan nga. Bakit hindi sya nagsalita nuong nadiscobre ang Garci tapes. Hindi bi ito’y huwaran ng isang nagpapanggap na may prinsipiong tao, pagkatapos sasabihin nyang ginawa nya ito for love of country and truth? Natakot lang syang gisahin sa senado kaya’t napilitang kumanta.

Kung ang hangarin ng marami na magalsa ang people power, ito na marahil ang mga pagkakataong mahikayat nya ang bayan. Hindi ba ito ang hangarin mo rin? Hindi ako ang dapat sisihin sa mga sumbat ko kay Gudani dahil hindi ako ang nagkulang sa iyo kundi si Gudani. GETS MO?

gudani might be one of the witnesses of pro impeachment procecutors kaya lang pinatay na nga impeachment kaya di sya nabigyan ng chance. now is the chance sa senate hearing kaya ayun patay si arroyo hahaha! di nya kaya senado. kung ang congress kaya nyang tapalan ng kwarta ibahin nya sila pimentel, osmena, magsaysay, biazon, gordon, madrigal lacson at iba pa.

correction to one blogger hinde pa tanggap ng tao ang dayaan. kung ikaw tanggap mo marami pa ang interesado sa paghanap ng katotohanan. nakita mo namn ang lagay ng piilpinas. hanggat walang closure yung katotohanan na hinihingi ng tao i doubt if arroyo would survive. GUDANI IS A HERO to many filipinos ANTIHERO to arroyo & her doggies. hehehe. gets mo?(sabi ni eyes….)

Tama lang iyon dahil puro dakdak lang naman yung mga iyon tapos pagbotohan na e di naman sila boboto ng for the impeachment, by huleye

the problem here lies not in the merit of the case.. coz i tell you majority of us know she cheated.. the problem lang is that most of us really dont think there’s an alternative to gloria. but herein lies the rub.. the more we get to know this false president ad her policies.. the more we tend to believe that she’s not the right person for the job anyways.. so if its a choice between the devil and the deep blue sea.. hey give em a snorkel now coz im swiming.. heck lotsa people feel that way.. or they wouldnt be taking up nursing in the first place.. When you have doctors who decide to study nursing just to be able to get out of this dang country and its rotten politicians then isnt that a signal that there’s something wrong in said country’s system of government?? When you have a president fresh from the “acquital” she got from a rubber stamp congress continues to commit errors in judgement thru issuance of laws curtailing political freedoms, curtailing the powers of an equal branch in government, entering into contracts which promises us trains we dont need but have to pay nonetheless.. isnt that a signal that din that there’s something wrong with this president??
frankly i have no problem putting this all aside.. as i think most of us in the middle class are doing.. concentrating on eaking out a meager living .. life is hard.. seems that every year its getting harder still..so when you hear bout what these people are doin with our hard earned taxpayers money.. squandering on deals which impact on our lives.. on better yet impact more on those congressmens and government officials lives more than ours.. does’nt it make your blood boil?? are’nt the ones who told us to tighten our belts coz we are in fact a poor soo goin to be bankrupt country.. and yet you see all those brash congressmen in big cars with wang wangs.. fancy clothes.. grandiose houses.. Don’t you people see anything wrong with this picture?? sorry but a government that readilly throws away a million dollars on contracts that don’t develop anything in this country seems a lil bit unsettling to me.. funds that can be used to alleviate the plight of the less fortunate.. give them better living conditions etc etc.. somethings wrong with our picture guys… high time we correct it..

naman no. noon sumunod si gudani sa chain of command sa pagpapalipat sa kanya at kay balutan to “stand down” sa security during the elections. ngayon tama na. gusto na talaga sila patahimikin para hwag patibayin ang alam na nating lahat na si gma ay walang karapatang manatili sa malacanang.

the eo’s purpose is not to prevent grandstatnding but ultimately to slash the oversight functions of congress. that’s a gag order. a lot of people know a lot of illegal and abhorrent details about transactions in gma’s admin. ayaw ng malacanang magsilabasan ang baho nila lalo na sa mga oras na ito na halos lahat ay naniniwalang nandaya si gma. natatakot silang magatungan.

dahilan nila ang nangyari kay norberto gonzales. e kung sinabi ba niya ang nalalaman niya di wala sanang ganito. ang bastus kasi ni gonzales, ininsulto niya tayo sa kanyang lantarang pagsisinungaling. di niya alam kung sino ang nagbayad pero alam niya 3 months bayad na???!!!!! sinong ginago niya? ni hindi niya isinagguni sa kahit na sinong abogado ang kontratang pinirmahan niya?!!! susko!!!! andaming abogado sa gobyerno. it only shows na secret yung kontrata. bakit kamo? dahil kung secret ang contrata secret rin ang makukuhang funds na i-lo-lobby, di ba? kung secret ang funds, kanino ito mapupunta? mismo.

galing nung nagsabi na ang susunod ay character assassination. nagsisilabasan nga sa text ang paninira ng malacanang kay gudani. siguro naghahanap pa sila ng ihahagid nila kay batulan. BUMENTA NA YAN!!! wala nang naniniwala sa ganyang tactic niyo. hello!

Timtim,

ang sinasabi mo COMMANDER IN CHIEF, di po ba? kung ang presidente mo commander in chief nga, ok lang ang chain of command. pero kung COMMANDER IN CHEAT, ibang usapan na iyon which makes Gudani and Balutan in the right track.

they emphasize that Gudani belongs to the opposition’s side… kaya wag daw paniwalaan ang mga pinagsasabi… haaaayyyy, character assasination na ambabaw… anu yun, basta hindi ka maka-Gloria nung election season, anything na napansin mong kakaiba or kahina-hinala ay bunga lang iyong malikot na imagination DAHIL ikaw ay nabubulagan sa iyong pagkampi sa kabila??..

a, Toro… what do u think he should’ve done?… nagpa-presscon when he found out something?.. nag-coup?… meron bang nagtanong sa kanya?… ngayon lang may authority na nagtanong sa kanya (at muntik nang hindi pa matuloy), pasalamat pa nga sila, hindi sa kung saang presscon sya nagdadaldal e… pasalamat pa nga sila dahil sa mga kapwa militar sya nagsiwalat… pasalamat sila dahil hindi nya diniretso kay biazon o lacson ang mga alam nya…

ooops, ngapala, i don’t think pwede syang mag-aresto nung mga sandaling andun sya sa sitwasyon na yun kasi kung babasahin mo yung testimony nya, nakita ba nya mismo sa FG na nagpamigay ng pera?… arestuhin nya si Garci for working in Mindanao e sa Luzon ang assignment nya?… pwede ba nyang arestuhin si Sumalipao for changing the operational plan?… hindi naman absolute yung testimonies nya, actually… kailangan pa nga ng iba pa magco-corroborate… i don;t think naghuhugas-kamay sya…

at kung talagang atat or may plano rin syang mandaya during the elections, courtesy of FPJ’s camp directive (halimbawa), i doubt naman na hindi mo yan basta-basta mapaalis sa lugar ng assignment nya para lang mag-golf o magpunta sa boracay….

tama ka jn, sinning saint. wala namang direct knowledge si Gudani para mang-aresto. isa pa, what Gudani is pointing out is that the Garci tapes is, in a way, true because he was “pulled out” from the field during the period mentioned in the tape. he is not testifying directly on the rigging that occured but on the veracity of the contents of the tapes.

Penpenpen88, speaking of Marcos, I’d like to draw out your opinion in a friendly discussion, if you agree, why it appears much easier to convince the people to come out and remove a fierce dictator and a movie actor president but not GMA? Let’s have our take on this.

The beginnings of the scenarios were about the same as we are facing today. There is general public discontent. It’s given that on both situations the military’s participation had a hand in deposing both leaders. Given too is that in the Edsa I the military precipitated the revolt and the people came out in support. In Edsa II it was the massive convergence of people that precipitated the revolt and the military came out to side with them.

We have a leader, GMA, who is accused of almost every crime the previous deposed leaders had allegedly committed. GMA has become the most unpopular president, according to surveys. She is hated, villified, unwanted, enough reasons for the people to come out in droves and kick her out. Question. What’s keeping the people out?

Let me start with what I think. I’ve always maintained that the removal of GMA through unconstitutional means can only be successful if done by two elements. It cannot be done successfully with just one without the other. If the military comes out and the people do not it becomes an unsuccessful coup. The people will oppose it and together with loyal govt. military forces there could be a bloody confrontation as what happened in the unsuccessful coup in Dec. 1989. If GMA survives the coup she remains the constitutional leader. The defeated coup leaders may even face execution. If the coup is successful there is no certainty that the people will support it. This Republic goes banana.
No nation respects a banana republic.

On the other hand, the people have not come out in meaningful numbers to join the various calls to bring down GMA. The military establishment refused to come out either, in spite of the open pleadings by retired generals to break the chain of command and withdraw its support of GMA. It has remained steadfast to stay out of politics. Perhaps, the military has indeed reformed and finally recovered their sense of professionalism.

Do you have an opinion why the people in general seem lukewarm to calls for GMA to step down? I realize there are many in this forum who seek GMA’s ouster and I can understand that. I also believe that all share the view that GMA has a lot to answer to the people. I do share that view. I also believe that we all have one objective, however, we seek different paths to achieve that objective. What I’ve seen so far in this forum is a lot of bickerings and senseless unproductive innuendoes. I believe the only way our goals can be achieved is if we resolve the pros and cons of the issues hopefully finding an acceptable way to do the rightful way together. This blog is a great forum for exchange of ideas and opinions, but please let’s all do it in a fair, pleasant and respectful manner. Thanks.

mabuti nga at nagsalita na si GUDANI kesa naman katulad nila esperon na bumongga ang career after election kapal mukha/.. and beside fake president nga si gloria di Ba, kaya karapatdapat lang na isnabin ang panawagan nya.. tama lang ang ginawa ni Gudani… kaya yung mga may kulaba sa mata na di pa rin nakikita ang pinagggagawa ni gloria mahiya nga kayo sa balat nyo!!!! nakikinabang siguro kayo kaya kahit ano na lang ang ginawa ni GLUERIA okey lang sa inyo.. manag mana kayo sa gloriang yan, pwe!!!!

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